Friday, October 31, 2025

Schumer Shutdown Comments & Preview

 


h/t - Woodsterman

Think he'd be doing this if Republicans were responsible for the Schumer Shutdown?  There's not a snowball's chance in Hell.  Democrats know that this is their doing.

18 comments:

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Yawn. More Woodsterman lies.

Joe Conservative said...

You mean Wes Moore lies.

Les Carpenter said...

Yawn more fascist con BS.

Joe Conservative said...

Republicans voted to re-open/ fund government SNAP... 15+ times. Democrats have not...

The Schumer shutdown. Democrats own it.

Les Carpenter said...

It's the tRump tRumpublican shutdown. Engineered and executed by THEM.

Joe Conservative said...

lol! A CR offering a continuation of the Biden budget was engineered by Republicans? LOL!

Les Carpenter said...

Ignorance continues to rule your life.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

2 "LOLs", huh? But republicans did not rubber-stamp legislation pushed by Democrats when Joe Biden was president. Why should Democrats? They didn't like the bigly beneficial to billionaires bill but could do nothing. They can do something now via negotiation (get the healthcare subsidies reinstated) but republicans refuse to negotiate. This is the trump shutdown. It does not matter if this is "a continuation of the Biden budget".

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

"Illegals should never have got those benefits in the first place".

They didn't. They haven't and never will. That is the Woodsterman lie I referred to. I'm pretty sure you added the video after I made my comment. I didn't watch it, in any case. Because IDC. Wes Moore may or may not run for president. IDC. I seriously doubt he will be elected president, or even be the nominee, if he runs. But I know why you're concerned. He's Black.

Joe Conservative said...

Democrats are the problem, per usual. It's Schumer's shutdown.

Joe Conservative said...

That's the last thing I care about. He's "Democrat". That's what makes him a terrible choice for leadership. Hogan was a Never-Trumper. That's what made him terrible for leadership.

Joe Conservative said...

;)</a.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

No.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Quinnipiac University Poll: Twenty-two days into a government shutdown after Congress hit a budget impasse, 45 percent of registered voters think Republicans in Congress are more responsible for the government shutdown, while 39 percent think Democrats in Congress are more responsible and 11 percent volunteered that they think both parties are equally responsible, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll of registered voters... 10/22/2025. (The Quinnipiac University Poll is a nationally recognized leader in public opinion research taking the pulse of American voters).

Via Copilot...

Multiple top polling organizations -- including Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos and Quinnipiac University -- have conducted polls on the 2025 government shutdown. None of them show a majority of Americans blaming Democrats; instead, most show Republicans and President Trump receiving more blame.

🧾 Polling Organizations That Have Conducted Shutdown Blame Surveys...

Washington Post–ABC News–Ipsos... Found that 45% of Americans blame Trump and congressional Republicans, while 33% blame Democrats, and 22% are unsure.

Among independents, 46% blamed Republicans, 23% blamed Democrats.

Quinnipiac University Poll... Reported 45% of registered voters blame Republicans, 39% blame Democrats, and 11% blame both equally. This poll shows a narrower gap, but still no majority blaming Democrats.

AP-NORC (via Politico)... Found that Americans spread the blame, but Republicans were slightly more blamed overall.

Factually.co summary of multiple polls... Aggregated results show a plurality blaming Republicans, with no poll showing a majority blaming Democrats.

🔍 Key Takeaways...

No major poll shows a majority of Americans blaming Democrats for the shutdown.

Republicans and President Trump are consistently blamed more, especially among independents and Democrats.

Partisan divide is sharp: Republicans tend to blame Democrats, Democrats blame Republicans, but independents lean toward blaming the GOP.

📊 Polling vs. Rhetoric...

As you already noted, polling data does not support this framing. No major poll shows a majority of Americans blaming Democrats for the shutdown.

The “Schumer Shutdown” label is rhetorically effective within partisan circles but empirically unsupported in broader public opinion.

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The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

That's the last thing *I* care about. The next president should be a progressive Democrat.

Copilot: Wes Moore is generally considered a moderate Democrat, though some of his policies -- especially on housing, education, and public service—carry progressive elements. He does not align with the party’s far-left wing. [end]

Unlike you, I am not a race essentialist. I strongly disagree with your view that being White is essential. Why you oppose giving minority candidates a fair shot via DEI, affirmative action, etc. Also why you support eliminating minority voices from the House of Representatives via aggressive gerrymandering (as opposed to neutral commissions creating non-partisan districts).

Joe Conservative said...

from The Hill:

Republicans are winning the shutdown, and even CNN has to admit it. We turn now to my favorite pollster, Harry Enten, who has some shocking news for his colleagues at the network. Take a look.

That’s right: GOP poll numbers are actually up! The way Republicans are choosing to handle the shutdown is actually resonating with voters. And not just their own voters, but also with independents. Republican voters, the MAGA base, they’re excited that the party is sticking to its guns, and independents are also rewarding them for it. I think that’s very telling.


GOP voters do not want feckless establishment leadership to succumb to Democrats’ efforts at emotional blackmailing over healthcare coverage, welfare payments and federal employee salaries. Because let’s keep in mind, Democrats are asking for everything. They want to maintain healthcare insurance subsidies that were intended to be a temporary COVID measure. But like most temporary government spending programs, Democrats now expect them to become permanent.

Democrats were willing to let the government shut down and say, look voters! Look what those mean Republicans are doing to you! They’re willing to withhold your paycheck, if you’re a government employee. They’re willing to take away your welfare! Blame them!

Well, it’s not working. Republican and independent voters know that, at this point, the Democrats own the government shutdown. They could vote to end it anytime — Republicans are ready! But Democratic members of Congress are afraid to go along with this, because they fear the anger of their furthest left voters, who are demanding they stand up to the Republicans, even in performative and self-sabotaging ways.


Well, they’re only hurting themselves, because a majority of voters — not everyone clearly, but enough people — are with the GOP on this one. Even CNN’s Jake Tapper sounded ever so slightly exasperated with congressional Dems.

He’s right. I think plenty of Americans have decided that Democrats own this shutdown now. We’ll see how that affects the midterms next year.

Joe Conservative said...

Wes Moore wants to gerrymander another Congressional district. The Democratic head of the State Senate told him he was an idiot he was. I agree with him.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

eff CNN and a double eff off for the Turd Jake Tapper. A triple eff off for the Libertarian author of the post you reference, Robby Soave.

Via Copilot...

🧠 Liberal Perceptions of CNN.

Centrist or corporate bias: CNN is often seen by liberals as trying too hard to appear neutral, which can result in false balance—giving equal weight to unequal claims, especially in political debates.

Platforming conservative voices: Critics point to CNN’s frequent inclusion of Republican commentators and controversial figures, which some liberals interpret as normalizing extreme views.

Tone and framing: CNN’s coverage is sometimes viewed as sensationalist or horse-race focused, especially during elections, rather than issue-driven or justice-oriented.

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"He’s right. I think plenty of Americans have decided that Democrats own this shutdown now. We’ll see how that affects the midterms next year".

No, he is wrong. As the opinion polls I referenced prove.