Friday, November 29, 2024

No More Mandating the Specious Luxury Values of Idiots Upon Working Class People...

19 comments:

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

"Luxury Values" = life being hospitable on earth for the human species values.

For some reason you're extremely determined to make the environment significantly less hospitable to human life.

rightturds have decided the human species should commit suicide. I say suicide is an individual choice. If you want to kill yourself you can do that, but you have no right to make this decision for others.

Joe Conservative said...

You didn't watch the video. EVs are more environmentally damaging than diesels.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

...the evidence generally supports that electric vehicles (EVs) are better for the environment than diesel vehicles. While it's true that EVs have a higher carbon footprint during the manufacturing stage, especially due to battery production, they more than make up for it during their operational life.

EVs produce zero tailpipe emissions, which means they don't emit pollutants like nitrogen oxides and particulate matter that diesel vehicles do. Over their lifetime, EVs typically have lower greenhouse gas emissions compared to diesel vehicles. The exact environmental impact can vary depending on the energy mix used to generate electricity in different regions, but even in areas with less clean energy, EVs tend to be more environmentally friendly overall.

So, while the initial production of EVs might be more carbon-intensive, their overall impact is generally lower than that of diesel vehicles.


You think that Elon is going to end up disappointed, or will his buddy d0n0ld come though with a bigly amount of government subsidy money for Tesla?

Joe Conservative said...

Then there's the waste disposal associated with EVs... Ouch!

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

There is no waste disposal associated with nuclear energy? That's a much bigger ouch.

FYI, there are other EV battery technologies being developed...

Solid-State Batteries: Toyota has announced plans to introduce solid-state batteries by 2027 or 2028. These batteries promise greater energy density, faster charging times, and improved safety. Other companies like QuantumScape and Solid Power are also working on bringing solid-state batteries to market in the near future.

Organic Cathode Materials: Research into organic cathode materials is still in the experimental stage, and it may take several more years before these technologies are ready for commercial use. However, advancements in this area are promising, and we could see them in EVs within the next decade.

Lithium-Iron-Phosphate (LFP) Batteries: LFP batteries are already in use and are expected to continue gaining market share due to their safety and sustainability advantages. They are a more affordable and environmentally friendly option compared to traditional nickel-manganese-cobalt (NMC) batteries.


For the record, my first comment was about your opposition to green energy in general. I had not watched the video and my comment wasn't about electric cars.

Thersites said...

The tremendous energy density of nuclear means much less waste to dispose of Derv. Besides, where do you think that EVs will get their daily charge from?

While it's true that EVs have a higher carbon footprint during the manufacturing stage, especially due to battery production, they more than make up for it during their operational life.

Oooops, I guess you think the grid is "green". LOL!

Coal me up, dervish!

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

The grid can be made more green. It seems like your argument is "we can't do it because we didn't do it".

fyi, "the last large coal power plant built in the United States was the Sandy Creek Energy Station in Texas, which came online in 2013. Since then, no new large coal power plants have been commissioned in the US".

Didn't d0n0ld say he was going to do something about that when he ran for predisent in 2016? Why didn't he do it?

Joe Conservative said...

lol!

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

LOL? It seems that, for you, climate disaster can't happen soon enough. Frankly I don't give a sh!t about any of this. Because I think it's too late. And there are too many (like you) who believe humanity should commit suicide.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Copilot: If the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) were to collapse, the consequences could be quite severe. Here are some of the potential impacts:

Climate Changes: Northern Europe could experience a sudden drop in temperatures, leading to colder winters. Conversely, the tropical regions might face hotter conditions.

Sea Level Rise: The collapse could lead to a rapid rise in sea levels, particularly along the East Coast of the United States. This would exacerbate the effects of global warming-induced sea level rise.

Weather Patterns: There would be significant disruptions to weather patterns, including more intense storms and rainfall in some areas, and droughts in others.

Agriculture: Changes in rainfall patterns could negatively impact agriculture, especially in regions dependent on consistent weather patterns.

Ecosystems: Marine ecosystems and fisheries could be thrown into upheaval, affecting biodiversity and food sources.

The potential collapse of the AMOC is a serious concern, and scientists are actively studying it to better understand the risks and develop strategies to mitigate its impacts.

Me: How long until it happens?

Copilot: The timeline for a potential collapse of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) is uncertain. According to recent research, it could happen anytime between 2025 and 2095. Some studies suggest it might occur around 2057, but this is still within a range of uncertainty.

It's a complex system influenced by many factors, including climate change and freshwater influx from melting ice. Scientists are actively studying it to better understand the risks and develop strategies to mitigate its impacts.

Joe Conservative said...

"The weather changes". That's some "concern". CO2 levels have never been this low in the history of the last billion+ years.

Joe Conservative said...

:P

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

co2coalition.org = liars who think you're stupid. Are you stupid?

High CO2 levels in the distant past contributed to conditions that would be inhospitable for modern humans. This is why the context and the timeframe of these CO2 levels are crucial. The current rise in CO2 is happening at an unprecedented rate, and the impacts on global climate, ecosystems, and human societies are significant.

Life on earth will continue regardless of how high C02 levels get. Or were. The question is whether or not the environment as impacted by high C02 levels is hospitable for human life to continue with no problems. I think the evidence is clear that rising temperatures will cause bigly problems.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Did your "LOL" (and graph link) mean you think d0n0ld *did* fulfill his promise to bring coal back bigly? There is nothing that can be done for this level of delusion.

Joe Conservative said...

A greener Earth capable of supporting MUCH more life.

Joe Conservative said...

Coal will be back Jan 20th.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

[more C02 will result in] "A greener Earth capable of supporting MUCH more life".

BS.

USA Today: Studies show that climate change has had "recognizable negative effects" on global food production. While CO2 fertilization can increase crop yields in some species, increases in global grain production are mostly due to changes in agricultural technologies and an increase in cultivated land area, researchers told USA TODAY. [and not increasing CO2 levels].

Climate change can negatively impact agriculture by increasing the likelihood and severity of drought, heat waves and other damaging weather events. For example, a drought believed to be influenced by climate change has reduced the amount of planted land area in Chile.

Warming temperatures can also increase crop disease severity while simultaneously driving new pest and disease patterns. Inland saltwater intrusion from climate change-driven sea level rise has also caused farmland degradation and abandonment.

"The negative impacts of climate change on crop yield are masked by technological improvements"... Even if CO2 fertilization increases a crop yield, it can have other negative effects on agriculture, Lewis Ziska, an agriculture and plant biology researcher at Columbia University, told Columbia News. For instance, agricultural weeds also benefit from CO2 fertilization.

"In crop/weed competition, weeds are the winners, and herbicides used to control weed growth become less effective" when CO2 increases... link

For someone who portrays himself as highly intelligent, you certainly have a simplistic (and wrong) view on what the effects of more C02 are.

Joe Conservative said...

I can't wait to hunt game in the forests of Antarctica.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

You'll be dead. Are you planning on living well into your hundreds?