Saturday, October 12, 2019

Lies, Damn Lies, and Media Omissions

21 comments:

Dervish Z Sanders said...

Glenn Beck + Peter Schweizer = some of the fakeiest news that could possibly exist. LOL.

Dervish Z Sanders said...

I listened to your video twice because I wanted to be sure of what Beck said - which is that Hunter Biden is the dad of the vice president - to which Schweizer says "exactly".

Who knew? Hunter looks pretty good for someone who is around 100 years old! John McCain's mom is still alive, so it's possible Joe Biden's dad could still be livng. Yet I am fairly certain Hunter Biden is Joe Biden's son, not his father. Maybe this is a "damn lie" - as per your post title?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Wow, what normal people would understand as classical mis-speak, you interpret as diabolical lie. No wonder you're so confused about the state of American politics..

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

In other words, "Stop being a 'literal' dumb-ass".

Dervish Z Sanders said...

Was the entire interview "classical mis-speak"? Does that explain all the lies?

Joe Conservative said...

Please, expose another specific case...

Dervish Z Sanders said...

The biggest lies I heard were near the end when Beck claims that Burisma and PrivatBank are owned by the same oligarch (5:59). And later when Schweizer says the owner of PrivatBank is involved in paying Hunter Biden (7:54). Mykola Zlochevsky owns Burisma and Ihor Kolomoisky owns PrivatBank. Beck also claims that the money in question was US aid when the money came from the IMF.

Beck: The money is put into a bank called PrivatBank. And it's owned by the oligarch that is running Burisma. ****FALSE****

Schweizer: "...Kolomoisky, who is paying -- involved in the payments to Hunter Biden -- of these board fees". ****FALSE****

Thersites said...

Where do you think IMF money comes from? The US is its biggest contributor.

Dervish Z Sanders said...

So, then you agree that the other two disparities I pointed out are huge whoppers? Unless these two oligarchs have some kind of relationship/are working together? A possibility not mentioned by either of the two professional liars (Beck and Schweizer).

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Burisma was founded by Mykola Zlochevsky some time ago, but he later sold his shares (in 2011) to the Privat Group,” which “is a conglomerate controlled by the ferocious Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky,”

Joe Conservative said...

Virtually all of the Western press simply alleges that Mykola Zlochevsky owns Burisma Holdings and brought Biden on board and was his boss; however, I have never seen from any of those ‘news’-reports any evidence or documentation that it’s true — nothing like the sources that Richard Smith relied upon and linked to documenting that this was Kolomoysky’s company. Nothing, at all.

This is important — is it Zlochevsky or Kolomoysky? — because Zlochevsky was associated with the prior Government of Ukraine and its President Viktor Yanukovych, whom the U.S. Government had overthrown in an operation that started in 2011 and that ended very successfully in February 2014 with the American Government’s Victoria Nuland on 27 January 2014 telling the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine to get “Yats” Yatsenyuk appointed to run the country as soon as Yanukovych becomes successfully overthrown — which happened less than a month later, during February 20-22 — and Yatsenyuk then received the appointment on February 26th to run the country, just as Obama’s agent Nuland had instructed. Zlochevsky fled the country, because he had been politically allied with Yanukovych, who also fled the country. Obama’s Government constantly tried to get Zlochevsky prosecuted for alleged corruption, but Zlochevsky had sold the company to Kolomoysky even before Obama took over Ukraine. It’s not at all clear that Hunter Biden had ever so much as just met Zlochevsky.

Joseph Biden, as is well reported in the press, instructed the new Ukrainian Government to fire and replace the General Prosecutor of Ukraine, Viktor Shokin, who had failed to prosecute Zlochevsky, and this action by Joe is reported as indicating that the senior Biden granted his son’s employer no favor but instead the opposite — that Joe insisted upon Hunter’s boss’s prosecution.
Source

Dervish Z Sanders said...

The fictional "Fight Club" character Tyler Durden is a reliable source? Who knew?

And your second source, "The Greanville Post", is linked to a Russian disinformation site. Color me surprised!

Quote: The editor is Patrice Greanville, who occasionally writes for Russia Insider.

Quote: Russia Insider is a news website launched in September 2014, based in Moscow, Russia.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

He's at least as credible as Dervish Sanders is. :)

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...and the Russians aren't nearly as stupid/forgiving as IMF lenders like Biden. :)

Thersites said...

By the way, didn't Bernie spend a lot of time in the USSR when he wasn't kibbutzind on the Jordan River?

Thersites said...

Bernie is definirely getting HIS orders from Moscow.

Dervish Z Sanders said...

I'm not a source at all. Credible or otherwise. I only offer opinions on publicly available information.

Bernie Sanders threw his support behind HRC in 2016 (campaigned for her). He opposes Putin's candidate, Dotard tRump.

Thersites said...

The former Russian resident threw his support behind the button maker and re-setter of Russian foreign policy to be more Putin friendly? No surprises there.

Thersites said...

Bernie Sanders was bare-chested, towel-draped, sitting at a table lined with vodka bottles, as he sang “This Land Is Your Land” to his hosts in the Soviet Union in the spring of 1988.

The just-married socialist mayor from Vermont was on what he called “a very strange honeymoon,” an official 10-day visit to the communist country, and he was enthralled with the hospitality and the lessons that could be brought home.

“Let’s take the strengths of both systems,” he said upon completing the trip. “Let’s learn from each other."

Thersites said...

As he stood on Soviet soil, Sanders, then 46 years old, criticized the cost of housing and health care in the United States, while lauding the lower prices — but not the quality — of that available in the Soviet Union. Then, at a banquet attended by about 100 people, Sanders blasted the way the United States had intervened in other countries, stunning one of those who had accompanied him.

Thersites said...

Sanders had visited Nicaragua in 1985 and hailed the revolution led by Daniel Ortega, which President Ronald Reagan opposed. “I was impressed,” Sanders said then of Ortega, while allowing that “I will be attacked by every editorial writer for being a dumb dope.” At the same time, Sanders voiced admiration for the Cuban revolution led by Fidel Castro, whom Reagan and many others in both parties routinely denounced.