The abject greed and lack of concern for ones fellow travelers in the wealthiest country on the planet is a sad and disgusting statement on the state of US capitalism and governmence.
Definitions of words change over time, including socialism.
In fact, Z's Churchill quote isn't even accurate.
Here's how US VP Vance defines socialism... "I think in reality, what it [socialism] actually means in the American context is that you want to replace American workers with foreign workers, and you want boys to play in girls' sports."
Is he accurate? Right? Wrong? Uneducated?
He had no talk of controlling labor or government taking ownership stakes in US companies as our government has done repeatedly under Trump.
No one is screaming socialism like they did with Solyndra, the GM Bailouts, and the Chrysler bailouts in the 70s. The GOP said all of those deals were horrible and showed Dems wanted socialism everywhere.
Now that a GOP President has done it, not so much? Why is that? Was it socialism then? Or is it now? Or are the partisans unaware because these deals don't make the grade on OAN, Fox News and the Gateway Pundit?
You tell me.
Are there some Dems who think "rich ppl" can pay for everything? Sure. In fact, I'm sure there are many, myself included, who believe a return to the 60% tax rates of the GOP Eisenhower Admin might actually help America.
But there are also plenty of Dems who have denounced those ideas and the DSA. And they will win elections across the country, showing the wide diversity of views within the party. So it's not the entire Dem party, despite the views of too many MAGA GOP supporters.
//Definitions of words change over time, including socialism.
Words, words, words...
Maybe that is REALITY chainging itself? And not mere words? Because words -- just a minikers. Just a labels. Meaningless without being oroperly sticking properly to simething.
🤪Qtard: ...they believe that if they'll give up USA to China and Russia -- their commies will come and build True Socialism...
))))))))
It's the right that wants to give up to Russia.
Democrats want the socialism like that socialism Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen denies his country has. We definitely aren't looking to emulate China. That's your qtarded lie. Or something you actually believe, due to being a moron. I say what explains it is that you are both very stupid and a bigly liar.
btw, a national health care program that covered everyone could be partially funded by taxing the uber wealth more. But most of the money would come from the people covered. As it does now. But with much less going to private sector healthcare administrators and CEOs.
Smart Democrats know this and do not believe what your moronic cartoon says they do.
🤪Qtard: Very simple indeed -- Socialism it is a lie. History of 20th century showed it definitely.
False. What history has shown is that many totalitarian leaders lie when they say they want socialism for their people. It's a lie that works because people love socialism and want it desperately. And are very happy when they get it for real.
Satan is smiling that so many people have been duped by his representative here on Earth, donald trump.
But this comment is probably by another of those Chinese bots (that Qtard is always talking about) who are continually trying to convince people to accept Communism... by praising donald trump.
Qtard believes that facts are what he says they are. Though he gives no sources. And what he writes is false.
Via Gemini.
The blog comment's assertion that car prices only doubled while general inflation quadrupled is flawed because it relies on quality-adjusted government metrics that mask actual out-of-pocket price surges of nearly 700%. While production and worker counts remain broadly comparable to 1980 levels, massive gains in manufacturing productivity and the shift toward higher-margin trucks and SUVs ensure strong industry profitability.🛑
🤪Qtard: WHAT PROFITS?!!! WHERE you see profits in this calculations?
Gemini: Most Profitable Automakers (TTM Earnings)
• Toyota (Japan): $34.40 billion. • Volkswagen (Germany): $13.67 billion. • BMW (Germany): $12.35 billion. • Hyundai (South Korea): $9.53 billion. • Mercedes-Benz (Germany): $8.90 billion. • Kia (South Korea): $6.84 billion. • Tesla (USA): $5.77 billion. • BYD (China): $5.28 billion.🛑
To Qtard billions in profits is no profits. That's a "fact" according to him.
But who even knows why Qtard is bringing up auto manufacturing when the post isn't about that. And the comment he is replying to isn't about that. Maybe what explains his non sequitur is craziness?
"I think in reality, what it [socialism] actually means in the American context is that you want to replace American workers with foreign workers, and you want boys to play in girls' sports."
DAVE never lets me down..............inaccurate; I'm glad Dave's supposedly listening to the VP; Oh, wait, if he was, he'd know that boys in girls' sports has nothing to do with socialism. Sorry, Dave...... Glad you check on my blog; thought you'd be more open minded by now.....
And money not borrowed or printed by givernment, which means speeding up inflation. Money recieved as profit. Profit then re-invested back into production.
But you -- cretinic DEMNs, but in reality just a stupid nazigcimmies -- do not know, unable to understabd from where it cimes -- and UNABLE to organize work to increase it.
And just below is the post that cinfirms my words...
""" Are there some Dems who think "rich ppl" can pay for everything? Sure. In fact, I'm sure there are many, myself included, who believe a return to the 60% tax rates of the GOP Eisenhower Admin might actually help America """
Greeting Z... I've run the quote you supplied through a number of AI sources and other assorted web sites. All agree the part of your meme that says... "Socialism is a political religion whose God is the State and whose priests are the bureaucrats..." is not from Churchill.
As to the rest, even the site you linked does not accept the quote as a single, one source quote. Rather, it is an amalgam of a few things Churchill said, formulated to look like one quote.
Also, the “philosophy of failure” phrase wasn’t originally Churchill’s. It comes from economist James Laurence Laughlin, who used it in a 1909 Scribner’s Magazine article.
As for the Vice President, I 100% disagree with his quoted and widely distributed, both in print AND in video, definition of socialism.
I just wonder why conservatives such as yourself aren't concerned about a Vice President of the US who cannot define the term as well as you and some of your readers seem to be able to.
Some of what the VP said may indeed be concerning and bad policy for the US. But if that is how he defines socialism, whoa... we've got a problem.
The fascist republican party and the regime of trump/vance are most assuredly bad for America and ALL Americans.
But the blind supporters of fascism and the trump/vance regime will continue their self destructive loyalty to a pack of filthy liars and unethical and immoral actors.
BTW geeeZ, it be you and your sailors on your ship of ignorant delusions that, at the behest of the fascist capitalist elites and their fascist political allies have been feeding Americans that line of pure bullshit for a 150 years.
Ultimately, Karl Marx will be proven to have been absolutely correct as to where fascist capitalism would eventually lead. In fact we're damn near there now. With the rise of the billionaire oligarchs and their unlimited ability to influence government and how it spends the people's money. And you and your loyal sailors are happily giving the thieves exactly what they want.
When it hits ya all in the ass don't expect anybody to give a shit over your inevitable whining and whimpering.
DEAR MICHIGANDERS: TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT FRANCE. On Saturday, one of the largest protest days in modern French history dissolved into riots: burning cars, looted storefronts, occupied city halls and masked crowds battling police in the streets of Paris and Marseille.
This is where the road leads when a country stops enforcing its own laws and starts apologizing for disorder. The flags in those crowds tell their own story about whose streets they have become.
Michigan is being asked to send Abdul El Sayed to the United States Senate. His movement talks about France's future as if it were a model. On Saturday the world saw that model up close, in flames.
Elections have consequences, and some of them cannot be undone. Michigan gets to choose its future while it still has the chance.
That is a flat out lie. The unrest is the result of the government not paying attention to and properly responding to the concerns of its citizenry. And if the fascists now running the USA continue to bow to the desires if the fascist capitalist elite billionaires we WILL see the same here in the US of A.
Michigan, Vote El Sayed. For he loves America far more than his filthy republican and capitalist elite detractors.
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The abject greed and lack of concern for ones fellow travelers in the wealthiest country on the planet is a sad and disgusting statement on the state of US capitalism and governmence.
Naaaaah.
It seems they believe that if they'll give up USA to China and Russia -- their commies will come and build True Socialism(tm). %^P
Not actually -FJ. Or is it Joe C?
Definitions of words change over time, including socialism.
In fact, Z's Churchill quote isn't even accurate.
Here's how US VP Vance defines socialism... "I think in reality, what it [socialism] actually means in the American context is that you want to replace American workers with foreign workers, and you want boys to play in girls' sports."
Is he accurate? Right? Wrong? Uneducated?
He had no talk of controlling labor or government taking ownership stakes in US companies as our government has done repeatedly under Trump.
No one is screaming socialism like they did with Solyndra, the GM Bailouts, and the Chrysler bailouts in the 70s. The GOP said all of those deals were horrible and showed Dems wanted socialism everywhere.
Now that a GOP President has done it, not so much? Why is that? Was it socialism then? Or is it now? Or are the partisans unaware because these deals don't make the grade on OAN, Fox News and the Gateway Pundit?
You tell me.
Are there some Dems who think "rich ppl" can pay for everything? Sure. In fact, I'm sure there are many, myself included, who believe a return to the 60% tax rates of the GOP Eisenhower Admin might actually help America.
But there are also plenty of Dems who have denounced those ideas and the DSA. And they will win elections across the country, showing the wide diversity of views within the party. So it's not the entire Dem party, despite the views of too many MAGA GOP supporters.
Like yourself.
//Definitions of words change over time, including socialism.
Words, words, words...
Maybe that is REALITY chainging itself? And not mere words?
Because words -- just a minikers. Just a labels.
Meaningless without being oroperly sticking properly to simething.
Yawn.
Thank you President Trump! God is smiling
Very simple indeed -- Socialism it is a lie.
History of 20th century showed it definitely.
Elaborations with facts and logic BELOW.
But basic numbers is this, in 80s and today:
number of workers (car makers) -- roughly 1 million
number of cars produced -- roughly the same -- 8 and 10 millions respectively.
ATTENTION! car prices -- doubled, but same time inflation in general quadrupled.
Means.
SAME amount of workers, produce SAME amount of goods, PRICES of which -- that goods DECREASED.
And that workers saying "why our wages do not increase??? that might be bosses took all profits?!!!"
WHAT PROFITS?!!!
WHERE you see profits in this calculations?
Elaborations with facts and logic BELOW.
But basic numbers is this, in 80s and today:
number of workers (car makers) -- roughly 1 million
number of cars produced -- roughly the same -- 8 and 10 millions respectively.
ATTENTION! car prices -- doubled, but same time inflation in general quadrupled.
Means.
SAME amount of workers, produce SAME amount of goods, PRICES of which -- that goods DECREASED.
And that workers saying "why our wages do not increase??? that might be bosses took all profits?!!!"
WHAT PROFITS?!!!
WHERE you see profits in this calculations?
🤪Qtard: ...they believe that if they'll give up USA to China and Russia -- their commies will come and build True Socialism...
))))))))
It's the right that wants to give up to Russia.
Democrats want the socialism like that socialism Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen denies his country has. We definitely aren't looking to emulate China. That's your qtarded lie. Or something you actually believe, due to being a moron. I say what explains it is that you are both very stupid and a bigly liar.
btw, a national health care program that covered everyone could be partially funded by taxing the uber wealth more. But most of the money would come from the people covered. As it does now. But with much less going to private sector healthcare administrators and CEOs.
Smart Democrats know this and do not believe what your moronic cartoon says they do.
🤪Qtard: Very simple indeed -- Socialism it is a lie. History of 20th century showed it definitely.
False. What history has shown is that many totalitarian leaders lie when they say they want socialism for their people. It's a lie that works because people love socialism and want it desperately. And are very happy when they get it for real.
Satan is smiling that so many people have been duped by his representative here on Earth, donald trump.
But this comment is probably by another of those Chinese bots (that Qtard is always talking about) who are continually trying to convince people to accept Communism... by praising donald trump.
Qtard believes that facts are what he says they are. Though he gives no sources. And what he writes is false.
Via Gemini.
The blog comment's assertion that car prices only doubled while general inflation quadrupled is flawed because it relies on quality-adjusted government metrics that mask actual out-of-pocket price surges of nearly 700%. While production and worker counts remain broadly comparable to 1980 levels, massive gains in manufacturing productivity and the shift toward higher-margin trucks and SUVs ensure strong industry profitability.🛑
🤪Qtard: WHAT PROFITS?!!! WHERE you see profits in this calculations?
Gemini: Most Profitable Automakers (TTM Earnings)
• Toyota (Japan): $34.40 billion.
• Volkswagen (Germany): $13.67 billion.
• BMW (Germany): $12.35 billion.
• Hyundai (South Korea): $9.53 billion.
• Mercedes-Benz (Germany): $8.90 billion.
• Kia (South Korea): $6.84 billion.
• Tesla (USA): $5.77 billion.
• BYD (China): $5.28 billion.🛑
To Qtard billions in profits is no profits. That's a "fact" according to him.
But who even knows why Qtard is bringing up auto manufacturing when the post isn't about that. And the comment he is replying to isn't about that. Maybe what explains his non sequitur is craziness?
//massive gains in manufacturing productivity
And that productivity counts in $ that workers want to recieve? %^P
That you ai dunno what "production costs" is and how workers wages influence price?
Seems like the case.
//• Toyota (Japan): $34.40 billion.
• Volkswagen (Germany): $13.67 billion.
• BMW (Germany): $12.35 billion.
• Hyundai (South Korea): $9.53 billion.
• Mercedes-Benz (Germany): $8.90 billion.
• Kia (South Korea): $6.84 billion.
• Tesla (USA): $5.77 billion.
• BYD (China): $5.28 billion.🛑
//To Qtard billions in profits is no profits. That's a "fact" according to him.
And what do you propose?
To rob workers of the world -- to give "fair salaries" to USAians, yes cretinic nazi-commie? )))))
//False. What history has shown is that many totalitarian leaders lie when they say they want socialism
...and there no other examples. Yawn.
//love socialism and want it desperately. And are very happy when they get it for real.
Yep.
People of Soviet Union loved socialism very much.
And people of North Korea... still love it, very much.
Yawn.
"I think in reality, what it [socialism] actually means in the American context is that you want to replace American workers with foreign workers, and you want boys to play in girls' sports."
DAVE never lets me down..............inaccurate; I'm glad Dave's supposedly listening to the VP; Oh, wait, if he was, he'd know that boys in girls' sports has nothing to do with socialism. Sorry, Dave...... Glad you check on my blog; thought you'd be more open minded by now.....
That all -- needs money.
And money not borrowed or printed by givernment, which means speeding up inflation.
Money recieved as profit.
Profit then re-invested back into production.
But you -- cretinic DEMNs, but in reality just a stupid nazigcimmies -- do not know, unable to understabd from where it cimes -- and UNABLE to organize work to increase it.
All you know -- "rob the rich ones"
Yawn.
https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/socialism-is-the-philosophy-of-failure-winston-churchill/
And just below is the post that cinfirms my words...
"""
Are there some Dems who think "rich ppl" can pay for everything? Sure. In fact, I'm sure there are many, myself included, who believe a return to the 60% tax rates of the GOP Eisenhower Admin might actually help America
"""
//So it's not the entire Dem party, despite the views of too many MAGA GOP supporters.
Whatever.
Yawn.
Who will define policies? And what policies it will be? In case of Dems win?
Practice saying that it will be cretinic Socialistic policies. Like Zero-bama's QEs.
Continue-continue showing itself cretin, cretin. %^P
So the car owner doesn't "profit" from car ownership? How would he get to work otherwise? How about all those years after the car is "paid off"?
Greeting Z... I've run the quote you supplied through a number of AI sources and other assorted web sites. All agree the part of your meme that says... "Socialism is a political religion whose God is the State and whose priests are the bureaucrats..." is not from Churchill.
As to the rest, even the site you linked does not accept the quote as a single, one source quote. Rather, it is an amalgam of a few things Churchill said, formulated to look like one quote.
Also, the “philosophy of failure” phrase wasn’t originally Churchill’s. It comes from economist James Laurence Laughlin, who used it in a 1909 Scribner’s Magazine article.
As for the Vice President, I 100% disagree with his quoted and widely distributed, both in print AND in video, definition of socialism.
I just wonder why conservatives such as yourself aren't concerned about a Vice President of the US who cannot define the term as well as you and some of your readers seem to be able to.
Some of what the VP said may indeed be concerning and bad policy for the US. But if that is how he defines socialism, whoa... we've got a problem.
The fascist republican party and the regime of trump/vance are most assuredly bad for America and ALL Americans.
But the blind supporters of fascism and the trump/vance regime will continue their self destructive loyalty to a pack of filthy liars and unethical and immoral actors.
BTW geeeZ, it be you and your sailors on your ship of ignorant delusions that, at the behest of the fascist capitalist elites and their fascist political allies have been feeding Americans that line of pure bullshit for a 150 years.
Ultimately, Karl Marx will be proven to have been absolutely correct as to where fascist capitalism would eventually lead. In fact we're damn near there now. With the rise of the billionaire oligarchs and their unlimited ability to influence government and how it spends the people's money. And you and your loyal sailors are happily giving the thieves exactly what they want.
When it hits ya all in the ass don't expect anybody to give a shit over your inevitable whining and whimpering.
BTW, the anonymous @2:41 PM was me.
DEAR MICHIGANDERS: TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT FRANCE. On Saturday, one of the largest protest days in modern French history dissolved into riots: burning cars, looted storefronts, occupied city halls and masked crowds battling police in the streets of Paris and Marseille.
This is where the road leads when a country stops enforcing its own laws and starts apologizing for disorder. The flags in those crowds tell their own story about whose streets they have become.
Michigan is being asked to send Abdul El Sayed to the United States Senate. His movement talks about France's future as if it were a model. On Saturday the world saw that model up close, in flames.
Elections have consequences, and some of them cannot be undone. Michigan gets to choose its future while it still has the chance.
That is a flat out lie. The unrest is the result of the government not paying attention to and properly responding to the concerns of its citizenry. And if the fascists now running the USA continue to bow to the desires if the fascist capitalist elite billionaires we WILL see the same here in the US of A.
Michigan, Vote El Sayed. For he loves America far more than his filthy republican and capitalist elite detractors.
...and so who stole the "profit"? Government, in the form of taxes and the increase of prices due to inflation.
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