Friday, May 23, 2025

Poor Harvard. No More Foreign Kronieism!

The Post-WWII Open Society Consensus

23 comments:

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

More illegal Turd-2 overreach. Harvard will challenge this in court.

"No more" = your delusion.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

The Court's going to force the US Government to give $billions in grants to Harvard? Don't count on it.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Poor USAID will run out of ideas for undermining democracy if they do...

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

My comment concerned Harvard's perogrative to admit foreign students and addressed no other issues.

Joe Conservative said...

Do the students need Visas? LOL! The DoS' perogrative to deny them is unquestionable.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

It is questionable.

Copilot: the Department of State does have broad discretion when granting or denying student visas, but its decisions are not entirely unquestionable. Visa denials can be challenged, and universities, legal experts, and even foreign governments often push back against questionable rejections.

In Harvard’s case, the revocation of its SEVP certification was handled by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) rather than the State Department, meaning it was an issue of school eligibility, not individual visa denials. Harvard is fighting the decision in court, arguing it was unlawful and retaliatory.

So while the Department of State does control visa approvals, its actions are not beyond legal review, and universities can legally contest policies that impact international students. The blog comment oversimplifies the situation, ignoring the legal challenges that institutions like Harvard have launched.

Legal scholars and immigration attorneys generally believe Harvard has a strong case against the Trump administration’s revocation of its Student and Exchange Visitor Program (SEVP) certification. The university has already filed a motion for a temporary restraining order, which the court granted, allowing Harvard to continue enrolling international students while the case proceeds.

Experts argue that the administration’s justification -- alleging Harvard fostered antisemitism and collaborated with foreign entities -- is legally weak and politically motivated. Immigration attorneys note that revoking SEVP certification is an extreme measure, and Harvard’s lawsuit is likely to challenge the lack of due process and the broad scope of federal demands. [end]

Joe Conservative said...

National Security is even stronger grounds. Presidential war powers are even stronger than his diplomatic ones exercised by DoS.

Joe Conservative said...

ps - The president is political.

Joe Conservative said...

Oh wait, Joe Biden governed for EVERYBODY, especially DJT!

Oh wait, Joe Biden didn't govern anything, his handlers did EVERYTHING. And we all know that THEY weren't political at all...

BWAH!

Joe Conservative said...

Dervy screams, "Not in MY name!" at the top of his lungs!

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Such screaming would be a pointless exercise. Nobody gives a crap about "my name". These people (the ones you think I'm screaming at) don't know I exist and wouldn't care that I existed if they did know.

Joe Conservative said...

I can't argue with that...

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

That might be a first -- you not arguing when it's pointed out that you're wrong.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Since we agreed, you must be wrong as well.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

No.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Then why'd you agree? Because there actually was a point? A certain fine whine bottle needed opening?

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

I did not. And I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

^^Pointless exercise^^

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Yeah, you trying to gaslight me into thinking I agreed with something you said is pretty pointless. I don't know why you attempted it.

Joe Conservative said...

I agree. Your petty whining is pointless

Hesiod, "Works and Days"

FABLE OF HAWK AND NIGHTINGALE
[202] And now I will tell a fable for princes who themselves understand. Thus said the hawk to the nightingale with speckled neck, while he carried her high up among the clouds, gripped fast in his talons, and she, pierced by his crooked talons, cried pitifully. To her he spoke disdainfully: `Miserable thing, why do you cry out? One far stronger than you now holds you fast, and you must go wherever I take you, songstress as you are. And if I please I will make my meal of you, or let you go. He is a fool who tries to withstand the stronger, for he does not get the mastery and suffers pain besides his shame.' So said the swiftly flying hawk, the long-winged bird.

Joe Conservative said...

Should I call you by your true name my nightingale, Philomela?

Joe Conservative said...

Shucks, I forgot to prune my vines... thanks for the reminder.

Hesiod, "Works and Days"

[564] When Zeus has finished sixty wintry days after the solstice, then the star Arcturus [late February, early March] leaves the holy stream of Ocean and first rises brilliant at dusk. After him the shrilly wailing daughter of Pandion, the swallow, appears to men when spring is just beginning. Before she comes, prune the vines, for it is best so.

Joe Conservative said...

...as always, a day late and a dollar short!