Tuesday, September 10, 2024

On the Birth of Feminist Intersectional Cultural Values

 
Robert Frost, "Mending Wall""

Something there is that doesn’t love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
And spills the upper boulders in the sun;
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.
The work of hunters is another thing:
I have come after them and made repair
Where they have left not one stone on a stone,
But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
No one has seen them made or heard them made,
But at spring mending-time we find them there.
I let my neighbor know beyond the hill;
And on a day we meet to walk the line
And set the wall between us once again.
We keep the wall between us as we go.
To each the boulders that have fallen to each.
And some are loaves and some so nearly balls
We have to use a spell to make them balance:
‘Stay where you are until our backs are turned!’
We wear our fingers rough with handling them.
Oh, just another kind of out-door game,
One on a side. It comes to little more:
There where it is we do not need the wall:
He is all pine and I am apple orchard.
My apple trees will never get across
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.
He only says, ‘Good fences make good neighbors.’
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:
Why do they make good neighbors? Isn’t it
Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.
Before I built a wall I’d ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offense.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down.’ I could say ‘Elves’ to him,
But it’s not elves exactly, and I’d rather
He said it for himself. I see him there
Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top
In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.
He moves in darkness as it seems to me,
Not of woods only and the shade of trees.
He will not go behind his father’s saying,
And he likes having thought of it so well
He says again, Good fences make good neighbors.’

The Cult of "Ladies"?

I'm pretty sure that the 'framing term' Lady contains a delimited content within the frame which one can pursue Independence and an undelimited one outside the frame which one cannot, and still be call a Lady....

...but then that would be an historio-linguistic, ergo "social" and "cultural" construction.  So perhaps the meaning contained within the frame of lady has been expanded by other discourses, especially a discourse of "capitalist realism" which then required an ample supply of "cheap labour" during an historic period of shortage.
Black Rosie
White Rosie

BOTH Riveting Labourers

When WWII ended - the Post-Modern Historic period began, and a new historical era of "capitalist realism" began.  One in which "Academics" began weighing and assigning "intersectional values" to the remnants of the historical ingredients of a newly but only partially homogenized American culture.  And what did they know of their worth?  Was their newly re-framed and assigned "intersectional" worth purely a matter of an historic/ moral nature?  It would appear so.  Woke moralism.

21 comments:

Mystere's Moonbat Slayer Club said...

Women exist only to serve their husbands. Bear their offspring and do the housework. Also please them in the bedroom. End of discussion.

Joe Conservative said...

That's certainly one, rather singularly subjective perspective.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Isn't that the perspective of Harrison Butker? I thought you agreed with him or at least defended him. Isn't that the perspective of jd "Vance"? And, when women get older, their sole reason to exist is to take care of grandchildren.

You think that will go over gangbusters with women? Not only a minority of women who are onboard with the perspective that women should be subservient to their husbands. But other women will say "yeah, that's fine" and vote republican? Even if they are unmarried?

Maybe they're hoping to one day be raped and forced to give birth to their rapist's baby. There was a discussion here at one point in which rape fantasies were discussed. According to Qtard, E Jean Carroll was really into getting raped by d0n-OLD. Though (at that point) I don't think she was able to get pregnant.

Joe Conservative said...

I think women have more than just labour value. They have cultural and marital values as well.

Joe Conservative said...

In other words, values directly opposed to capitalist labour commodification.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

I think some women feel they have value that isn't dependent on what men think their value is -- to them (men). I think these women anger misogynists like Butker, "Vance" and YOU. You'd likely say they are lesbians. Some are. Others are successful independent woman who don't want a husband and children.

Women such as the world's most famous childless cat lady. She just endorsed Kamala Harris for president.

It was mildly amusing to watch Kamala Harris mop the floor with dotard d0n-OLD last night. Though also disturbing that this idiot is (for the 3rd time) the republican nominee for president.

I was thinking "oh, jeez" when he started ranting like an crazy person (which he is) about immigrants eating people's pets. This racist misogynist nut is definitely not presidential material. He never was.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minus: In other words, values directly opposed to capitalist labour commodification.

In other words, "I want MY free woman-provided labor -- I don't want women in the workplace being paid for their labor".

A woman's place is in the home, barefoot and pregnant. Providing unpaid labor (child rearing, housework, bedroom duties, etc) for her husband. Yes?

Harrison Butker was really worked up about it. I watched his entire video.

Joe Conservative said...

Those women are mostly idots.

Joe Conservative said...

I have a wife. I don't want any more, and could care less what the rest do. I simply point out that Belmont values outperform Fishtown values eight days a week. And that people who want to live in Fishtown, are usually the idiots mentioned from the post above

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Belmont and Fishtown? Are you referring to writings by the racist Charles Murray? The billionaire Taylor Swift is a "Fishtown" resident?

Joe Conservative said...

Fishtown values are Fishtown values! Is she married, or is she a childless cat lady? Fishtown.

mystere's moonbat slayer club said...

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"Women exist only to serve their husbands. Bear their offspring and do the housework. Also please them in the bedroom. End of discussion."

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Anonymous said...

According to Qtard, E Jean Carroll was really into getting raped by d0n-OLD. Though (at that point) I don't think she was able to get pregnant.

Do tell, Cretin.

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The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Why are you complaining about an alleged "fake Mystere account", asshole? You're the one who fakes me with your counterfeit "Dervish Sanders" account. But that's not bad, it's good? What a hypocrite.

You're faking comments from Qtard too. He didn't make that "cretin" comment. That was YOU. You're known by quite a few people to be a comment-faking scumbag.

I don't care if Taylor Swift is married or if she never marries. It's none of my business. It's none of your business either, Minus. Yet you criticize her with BS from the racist Charles Murray about her having "Fishtown values". I guarantee she doesn't give a shit what you (or any rightturd) thinks about her life choices.

Joe Conservative said...

I find it hilarious that a celebrity who's made millionaires singing about how many bad choices she's made with men thinks that her choices in presidential candidates will turn out any better...

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

btw, Mystere, in regards to you spelling "prophet" as "profit" -- that applies to the FAKE prophet$ you've been duped by. They are getting rich fooling saps like you with FAKE messages they say they got directly from God (they are lying). They can plead for donations for private planes and rightturd Christofascist trumpers will send bigly $$$ to fund their extravagant lifestyles.

So, it's really no surprise that d0n-OLD has you fooled as well. Though I don't quite understand why Minus is also fooled. Given that he doesn't share your religion. Or so he says. He can clarify if he wishes, but I believe he has said he is a Deist. So, I don't really get why he thinks Christofascism will be great -- which will be imposed upon us if d0n-OLD becomes predisent again :(

Though you have referred to "divine justice". How can there be any such thing as "divine justice" for someone who believes in Deism?

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...
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The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minus: I find it hilarious that a celebrity who's made millionaires singing about how many bad choices she's made with men thinks that her choices in presidential candidates will turn out any better.

She isn't endorsing a new boyfriend for herself -- she made a political endorsement. In any case, I'd vote for the Democrat no matter who it was. Especially given how terrible tRump is. What about his bad choices that have lead to multiple bankruptcies? Taylor Swift has never filed for bankruptcy. And her endorsement of Joe Biden turned out VERY well. Joe Biden has been a fantastic president. That's my reservation about Kamala Harris. I'd have preferred to keep Joe Biden in the job.

Though apparently both Biden and Harris are going to die soon. As per a fake prophet Mystere listens to they will be poisoned. Then maybe Michelle Obama will step in. Or Elizabeth Warren as POTUS and Bernie Sanders as VP, as Mystere predicted.

Joe Conservative said...

Yes, I've chosen to become a Deist. And it's not that I believe that Christianity is great, so much that the alternative, Cynical reason, is what lead us down the garden path to Nazi-ism, the same path Democrats are on now. Because Deism is the "context" in which our Republic was founded, and has inexorably lead us to Nietzsche's "Last Man" (an atheist Democrat) upon the "death of G-d". Proof.

The Deist G_d exists "outside" our Universe. He allows us to "transcend" existence and posit "a good life", something those trapped within existence cannot, with confidence, replicate. His "Divine Justice" was baked in, at the moment of Creation. It's unavoidable.

Joe Conservative said...

She isn't endorsing a new boyfriend for herself -- she made a political endorsement.

...her life gives testimony that she has incapacity for forming good judgements about people. Btw - isn't she contracted to break up with Travis Kelcy at the end of September? Maybe he'll get a song out of it. :)

Joe Conservative said...

And so it is unusual in light of this, to think of how some American Christians really can't heap enough praise upon the founding fathers. In spite of the fact that if a political figure published anything like this today, you know you're running for office. And you say, "Look, here's my edited Bible where I removed all the bad and offensive parts." That person would be Flayed alive, politically speaking.

Again, Sloterdijk argues that Jefferson did this because he was trying to put "the good news" into a language that suited the conditions of the time. The 18th century is a time of scientific optimism, of social optimism, of a rapidly dawning Industrial Revolution and in the heady days of the Enlightenment. It's a time in which "the educated men of society" begin to have less faith in Faith than they have in Reason. And many of the founders of America come from that mileau. They are Deists, they are interested in esoteric branches of Christianity such as Freemasonry or Rosicrucianism, which, by their very nature are more personal experiences of Faith. It's a faith that's more like an inner work. The framers are influenced also, by philosophical writings of men like Locke and Paine and Rousseau, who had expressed a belief in the rights and sovereignty of the citizenry. And the cultural background of America's founding is English Protestantism, which is a tradition that, it comes out of defying centralized religious Authority in favor of elevating the moral and religious Judgment of the individual, to read and interpret the scripture for himself.