wtf are you talking about? It was a Republican that wanted drug testing to qualify for food stamps. And food stamps are a sustenance level benefit provided by the government so people don't starve. Yet king donald wanted to take that away during the government shutdown.
When Senator’s like Elissa Slotkin and Mark Kelly, along with Representors Chris Deluzio, Chrissy Houlahan, Maggie Goodlander, and Jason Crow Play President the dangerously naive call for Soldiers to “stop and question” their orders! These politicials recently released an extreamly dramatic video TELLING the members of the United States Military and the Intelligence community to question the legality of the orders that was already made by the President of the Unided States of America! They played their parts as if it was a patriotic TV Movie. They wrapped it in Constitutional Chistmas wrapping paper as if it were a Gift to the Troops! They stood there and recited their lines aloud as if it was a poem or passage from memory before an audienceat a recital.
But let’s be clear this message isn’t noble, it isn’t principled, and it ain’t courageous. What it IS Is Reckless. It’s something that is tottaly Disgusting It’s out of touch. And it shows a dangerous Ignorance about how the military actually functions under stress, pressure, and threat. But we all know exactly what it reakky is, It’s just another Outrageous, and another one of their tactitics way to try to get Rid of Donald Trunp! When people like Elissa Slotkin and Mark Kelly, Chris Deluzio, Chrissy Houlahan, Maggie Goodlander, and Jason Crow solemnly declared that “You Can Refuse To Carry Out Illegal Orders.” They skipped over one essential reality: A split second of hesitation in combat can get someone killed. Also who’s to say that this President EVER gave ANY “ILLEGAL” Orders? Telling service members and intelligence officers to carefully ponder the legality of any given command in the moment is like telling a firefighter to pause and review statutory code before kicking down a burning door. This isn’t Accountability. This is Chaos.
Like I said, wtf are you talking about? You repeating what you said originally does nothing in regards to explaining what you mean @@
I'll assume you mean that it is "nice" for our wealthy overlords to see Americans going hungry. Because it provides them something to laugh about. king donald was clearly laughing with his "Great Gatsby" mar-a-lardo party... and he wanted people to know he was amused by his ability to deny food stamp recipients to get funds they were approved for.
You very likely think this is a "good thing" as well.
FYI...
🤖 ...polling and approval trackers show that Donald Trump’s decision to withhold or delay SNAP (food stamp) funds during the government shutdown in late 2025 caused a sharp drop in his approval ratings.
📊 What the polls and reporting show.
Newsweek/Nate Silver tracker: Trump’s net approval rating fell to -13 points (42% approving, 55% disapproving) amid voter anger over delayed SNAP benefits.
Trend data: His net approval dropped from -9 points to -11 points within a week, reflecting growing disapproval tied directly to the SNAP issue.
Public sentiment: Coverage noted “growing voter anger” and that the SNAP cutoff was a major driver of the decline.
Charity response: Hunger‑relief organizations described the situation as “catastrophic,” underscoring how the decision resonated negatively with the public. 🛑
It appears that the public strongly disagrees that this is a "good thing".
Yes, you can use EBT for fast food in states that have the Restaurant Meals Program (RMP), which allows eligible individuals (elderly, disabled, or homeless) to buy hot meals at participating restaurants. Not all fast food restaurants accept EBT, and participation varies by state and even by individual location within a chain, so you should look for a "SNAP Restaurant Meals Program" sign or check with the local Department of Human Services for a list of authorized restaurants.
Minus: Yes, you can use EBT for fast food in states that have the Restaurant Meals Program (RMP), which allows eligible individuals (elderly, disabled, or homeless) to buy hot meals at participating restaurants. Not all fast food restaurants accept EBT, and participation varies by state and even by individual location within a chain, so you should look for a "SNAP Restaurant Meals Program" sign or check with the local Department of Human Services for a list of authorized restaurants.
NO, this doesn't apply to most people. It is for elderly and disabled people who have difficulty preparing their own food. You don't want elderly and disabled people who can't prepare their own food to eat? You're a eugenics supporter who thinks the weak should be starved to death?
FYI, I addressed the VDH lie that "There is no example that they can give". There ARE examples. And, it isn't about "enforcing silliness", it is about what is an illegal order. king donald has issued illegal orders.
FYI, everything donald trump wants the military or other government employees to do isn't immediately legal because he says so. I doubt you would feel the same if Kamala Harris was president.
Let's be perfectly clear! The Patriotic Americans who served their country are EXACTLY CORRECT. An American soldier does not have to obey ILLEGAL ORDERS , period. Full Stop.
The only traitor in this kerfuffle is Donald J. (Moron) Trump.
And as a former Naval Reserve officer I can tell you, the moment you disobey an illegal order you will be Court Marshalled and forced out of the service. You didn't see "A Few Good Men"?
No good deed goes unpunished. The problem with liberals is that try and live as if they don't.
btw - American soldiers don't have to obey LEGAL orders either. They merely have to accept the consequences from NOT doing so. And those consequences, like with illegal orders, will be severe.
I was arguing with YOU. You're the one who believes elderly and disabled people who are unable to prepare their own meals and might make the occasional choice to buy fast food should not be allowed to do so using SNAP. Is it ideal? I would say no. But it does give them another option when their disability limits/eliminates their option to buy and prepare their own food.
Minus: Yes, he could refuse the order, and then be Court Martialed and put before the firing squad.
🐂💩
🤖 The likelihood of a U.S. soldier being executed by firing squad for refusing an illegal order is essentially **zero**. Let’s unpack why.
⚖️ Military Law Basics.
Illegal orders: Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), service members are *required* to disobey unlawful orders. Following an illegal order can itself lead to prosecution.
Court‑martial: A soldier who refuses an order might face a court‑martial, but only if the order is deemed lawful. If it’s illegal, refusal is protected.
Punishments: Modern U.S. military justice does not impose firing squads for refusing orders. The death penalty exists under the UCMJ but is reserved for extreme crimes (e.g., treason, espionage, certain forms of murder). Refusal of an illegal order would not qualify.
📖 Historical Context.
The last U.S. military execution by firing squad was in **1945**, for a soldier convicted of rape and murder.
Since then, executions in the military have been extremely rare, and none have been for disobedience of orders.
Current military practice uses lethal injection if the death penalty is ever carried out.
🧠 Why the blogger’s claim is misleading.
It exaggerates consequences to suggest soldiers would face death for refusing orders.
In reality, refusing an illegal order is a duty, not a crime.
The “firing squad” imagery is rhetorical flourish, not grounded in military law or practice.
✅ Bottom line: A soldier refusing an illegal order would not be executed. At most, they might face investigation, but the law protects them if the order is unlawful. The blogger’s statement is hyperbolic and inaccurate. 🛑
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Americans can't have nice things because of plutocratic serving republiturds.
Nice things, Derv... not food stamps and supervised drug testing.
wtf are you talking about? It was a Republican that wanted drug testing to qualify for food stamps. And food stamps are a sustenance level benefit provided by the government so people don't starve. Yet king donald wanted to take that away during the government shutdown.
H.R.372 - Drug Testing for Welfare Recipients Act .
Like I said, "nice things"....
When Senator’s like Elissa Slotkin and Mark Kelly, along with Representors Chris Deluzio, Chrissy Houlahan, Maggie Goodlander, and Jason Crow Play President the dangerously naive call for Soldiers to “stop and question” their orders!
These politicials recently released an extreamly dramatic video TELLING the members of the United States Military and the Intelligence community to question the legality of the orders that was already made by the President of the Unided States of America! They played their parts as if it was a patriotic TV Movie. They wrapped it in Constitutional Chistmas wrapping paper as if it were a Gift to the Troops! They stood there and recited their lines aloud as if it was a poem or passage from memory before an audienceat a recital.
But let’s be clear this message isn’t noble, it isn’t principled, and it ain’t courageous. What it IS Is Reckless. It’s something that is tottaly Disgusting It’s out of touch. And it shows a dangerous Ignorance about how the military actually functions under stress, pressure, and threat.
But we all know exactly what it reakky is, It’s just another Outrageous, and another one of their tactitics way to try to get Rid of Donald Trunp!
When people like Elissa Slotkin and Mark Kelly, Chris Deluzio, Chrissy Houlahan, Maggie Goodlander, and Jason Crow solemnly declared that “You Can Refuse To Carry Out Illegal Orders.” They skipped over one essential reality: A split second of hesitation in combat can get someone killed. Also who’s to say that this President EVER gave ANY “ILLEGAL” Orders?
Telling service members and intelligence officers to carefully ponder the legality of any given command in the moment is like telling a firefighter to pause and review statutory code before kicking down a burning door.
This isn’t Accountability. This is Chaos.
Minus: Like I said, "nice things"....
Like I said, wtf are you talking about? You repeating what you said originally does nothing in regards to explaining what you mean @@
I'll assume you mean that it is "nice" for our wealthy overlords to see Americans going hungry. Because it provides them something to laugh about. king donald was clearly laughing with his "Great Gatsby" mar-a-lardo party... and he wanted people to know he was amused by his ability to deny food stamp recipients to get funds they were approved for.
You very likely think this is a "good thing" as well.
FYI...
🤖 ...polling and approval trackers show that Donald Trump’s decision to withhold or delay SNAP (food stamp) funds during the government shutdown in late 2025 caused a sharp drop in his approval ratings.
📊 What the polls and reporting show.
Newsweek/Nate Silver tracker: Trump’s net approval rating fell to -13 points (42% approving, 55% disapproving) amid voter anger over delayed SNAP benefits.
Trend data: His net approval dropped from -9 points to -11 points within a week, reflecting growing disapproval tied directly to the SNAP issue.
Public sentiment: Coverage noted “growing voter anger” and that the SNAP cutoff was a major driver of the decline.
Charity response: Hunger‑relief organizations described the situation as “catastrophic,” underscoring how the decision resonated negatively with the public. 🛑
It appears that the public strongly disagrees that this is a "good thing".
OMG, did any 300# children die from starvation during the SNAP benefits pause?
Nooooo.... THAT system needs no reform. No longer able to purchase fast food from McDonalds? The horror...
The US Government has become a sycophantic ChatGPT under democrats.
People who are tight on money were depending on those SNAP benefits, a-hole. Also, SNAP cannot be used to purchase fast food.
Victor Davis Hanson is a Turd. Citizens have the right to resist a fascist government.
💩 Victor Davis Hanson: "There is no example that they can give".
⚖️ Examples...
Violated Posse Comitatus.
Violating people's right to due process.
US strikes on alleged drug boats. A serviceman could have refused to carry out that illegal order.
Yes, you can use EBT for fast food in states that have the Restaurant Meals Program (RMP), which allows eligible individuals (elderly, disabled, or homeless) to buy hot meals at participating restaurants. Not all fast food restaurants accept EBT, and participation varies by state and even by individual location within a chain, so you should look for a "SNAP Restaurant Meals Program" sign or check with the local Department of Human Services for a list of authorized restaurants.
Yes, he could refuse the order, and then be Court Martialed and put before the firing squad.
The UN has no jurisdiction or means of enforcing their silliness.
Minus: Yes, you can use EBT for fast food in states that have the Restaurant Meals Program (RMP), which allows eligible individuals (elderly, disabled, or homeless) to buy hot meals at participating restaurants. Not all fast food restaurants accept EBT, and participation varies by state and even by individual location within a chain, so you should look for a "SNAP Restaurant Meals Program" sign or check with the local Department of Human Services for a list of authorized restaurants.
NO, this doesn't apply to most people. It is for elderly and disabled people who have difficulty preparing their own food. You don't want elderly and disabled people who can't prepare their own food to eat? You're a eugenics supporter who thinks the weak should be starved to death?
FYI, I addressed the VDH lie that "There is no example that they can give". There ARE examples. And, it isn't about "enforcing silliness", it is about what is an illegal order. king donald has issued illegal orders.
FYI, everything donald trump wants the military or other government employees to do isn't immediately legal because he says so. I doubt you would feel the same if Kamala Harris was president.
Let's be perfectly clear! The Patriotic Americans who served their country are EXACTLY CORRECT. An American soldier does not have to obey ILLEGAL ORDERS
, period. Full Stop.
The only traitor in this kerfuffle is Donald J. (Moron) Trump.
And sadly you Steve.
You're arguing with an AI Derv... your favorite truth source.
And as a former Naval Reserve officer I can tell you, the moment you disobey an illegal order you will be Court Marshalled and forced out of the service. You didn't see "A Few Good Men"?
No good deed goes unpunished. The problem with liberals is that try and live as if they don't.
No good deed goes unpunished Les. You should know that.
btw - American soldiers don't have to obey LEGAL orders either. They merely have to accept the consequences from NOT doing so. And those consequences, like with illegal orders, will be severe.
"I was following orders" doesn't protect soldiers from prosecution, as members of the German military learned following Hitler's defeat.
Minus: You're arguing with an AI Derv...
You're an AI?
Minus: your favorite truth source.
No.
The US doesn't recognize the Hague Courts.
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I was arguing with YOU. You're the one who believes elderly and disabled people who are unable to prepare their own meals and might make the occasional choice to buy fast food should not be allowed to do so using SNAP. Is it ideal? I would say no. But it does give them another option when their disability limits/eliminates their option to buy and prepare their own food.
States could prosecute soilders who violate laws in their states. JB Pritzger has suggested this could happen. The Hague would not be involved.
Minus: Yes, he could refuse the order, and then be Court Martialed and put before the firing squad.
🐂💩
🤖 The likelihood of a U.S. soldier being executed by firing squad for refusing an illegal order is essentially **zero**. Let’s unpack why.
⚖️ Military Law Basics.
Illegal orders: Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), service members are *required* to disobey unlawful orders. Following an illegal order can itself lead to prosecution.
Court‑martial: A soldier who refuses an order might face a court‑martial, but only if the order is deemed lawful. If it’s illegal, refusal is protected.
Punishments: Modern U.S. military justice does not impose firing squads for refusing orders. The death penalty exists under the UCMJ but is reserved for extreme crimes (e.g., treason, espionage, certain forms of murder). Refusal of an illegal order would not qualify.
📖 Historical Context.
The last U.S. military execution by firing squad was in **1945**, for a soldier convicted of rape and murder.
Since then, executions in the military have been extremely rare, and none have been for disobedience of orders.
Current military practice uses lethal injection if the death penalty is ever carried out.
🧠 Why the blogger’s claim is misleading.
It exaggerates consequences to suggest soldiers would face death for refusing orders.
In reality, refusing an illegal order is a duty, not a crime.
The “firing squad” imagery is rhetorical flourish, not grounded in military law or practice.
✅ Bottom line: A soldier refusing an illegal order would not be executed. At most, they might face investigation, but the law protects them if the order is unlawful. The blogger’s statement is hyperbolic and inaccurate. 🛑
^^Never served a day in the Armed Forces of the US^^
They could certainly try. Good luck arresting them.
That seems to be the problem that the Hague has. :)
Mark Kelly is a highly decorated former member of the military and he correctly pointed out that soilders have a duty to refuse illegal orders.
It seems that YOU never served a day in the Armed Forces of the US. Because your claims concerning court martials and firing squads are 🐂💩
How would they evade arrest?
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