Wednesday, September 6, 2023

"It's ALL Russia's Fault!"...e-r-r-r-r-p.

36 comments:

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

If you believe the Idiot Qtard's bs, most of the blame can be placed on "0-bama" and "Bi-den". Also all other "Demns". Putin too, but not as much as "0-bama" and "Bi-den". Those 2 assholes (the "real colluders") should get most of the blame. Especially "Bi-den", who is slowing down delivery of tanks and planes -- to make it look like he's helping -- when he's really helping his master, Putin.

Putin didn't dare invade Ukraine while dotard donald was president. Out of respect and out of fear.

Maybe the Idiot Qtard will now screech, "You admitted it!!" Probably also a "quote" of "Bi-den" saying "Ukraine doesn't need our planes".

Anonymous said...

\\Putin too, but not as much as...

liliPut... is KGBst. And you in USA. KNEW IT. In and out.

But what? Thought that leopard CAN run away from its spots???

Or... you was overly comfortable, to kiss up to your Cold War Arch-Enemy???

Anonymous said...

And KGB it's Russian version of Gestapo... NO.

History-wise, that is Germans LEARN it from Rush'A.

So... 0-bama and Bi-den was MORE comfortable to make deals with nazi-like despot... then with democratic presidents?

Well... nothing new.

The same cosy it was for you -- to do it with Hitler.

And SAME Demn party. Or... remind to me -- who was president in the end of 30th and beginning og 40th?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

FDR.

The Democrats taught the NAZI's how to set up their "Jewish Laws" and pin stars onto their clothes to more easily identify who the "blacks" were and who to hate.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Qtard: Or... you was overly comfortable, to kiss up to your Cold War Arch-Enemy???

donald tRump definitely was/is.

Qtard: 0-bama and Bi-den was MORE comfortable to make deals with nazi-like despot... then with democratic presidents?

donald tRump on Putin's Ukraine invasion: This is genius ... Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful ... He [Putin] used the word "independent" and "...we're gonna go in and we're gonna help keep peace". You gotta say that's pretty savvy. link

Qtard: Well... nothing new. The same cosy it was for you -- to do it with Hitler.

Quote: Among the leaders of Western democracies, Franklin D. Roosevelt was perhaps the first to recognize a terrible threat in Adolf Hitler's rise to absolute power in Germany. "Hitler is a madman", FDR bluntly told the French ambassador to the United States in April 1933, just a month into his presidency ... A few weeks earlier, the German government had given Hitler dictatorial powers -- a situation FDR characterized as "alarming". ... FDR also made repeated attempts to educate the American public about Hitler's growing ambition and the threat it posed to American security. In January 1936 ... he warned of the rise of autocratic power in Europe and Asia coupled with a "trend towards aggression . . . which has in it many of the elements that lead to the tragedy of a general war". [end]

FDR did want to keep America out of a war in Europe, however. This might be what Qtard means by "cosy"?

Qtard: And SAME Demn party. Or... remind to me -- who was president in the end of 30th and beginning og 40th?

So, the Idiot Qtard thinks whichever party the president is if there is a war -- they're responsible for that war? Maybe Qtard thinks FDR colluded with Hitler? That Hitler was FDR's "master"?

Minus: FDR. The Democrats taught the NAZI's how to set up their "Jewish Laws" and pin stars onto their clothes to more easily identify who the "blacks" were and who to hate.

FDR was a Northern Democrat from NY.

Quote: In June 1941, Franklin D. Roosevelt issued Executive Order 8802, which created the Fair Employment Practices Committee (FEPC). It was the most important federal move in support of the rights of African Americans between Reconstruction and the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The President's order stated that the federal government would not hire any person based on their race, color, creed, or national origin. Millions of African Americans and women achieved better jobs and better pay as a result.

Quote: ...Executive Order 8802 ... required defense contracts to include a "provision obliging contractors not to discriminate against any worker regardless of race, creed, color, or national origin" ... [it] was challenged in January 1942, when a US merchant ship refused to take on twenty-five African American sailors. FDR responded with a strongly worded letter stating that "questions of race, creed and color have no place in determining who are to man our ships. The sole qualifications for a worker in the maritime industry, as well as any other industry, should be his loyalty and his professional or technical ability and training".

Joe Conservative said...

Did FDR ever pet a dog or cat? LOL!

Anonymous said...

\\donald tRump definitely was/is.

did he pressed some Reset Button??? Asked to make "some space"?



\\donald tRump on Putin's Ukraine invasion: This is genius ... Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful ... He [Putin] used the word "independent" and "...we're gonna go in and we're gonna help keep peace". You gotta say that's pretty savvy. link

Please... remind me. What number of country you invaded recently? To "make peace" in them?

Or leaved. ;-P



\\Quote: Among the leaders of Western democracies, Franklin D. Roosevelt was perhaps the first to recognize a terrible threat in Adolf Hitler's rise to absolute power in Germany. "Hitler is a madman"

What DID??? That FDR...

to prevent it. Or to fight back?

NOTHING. Period.

Well, with amount of investments given... it's DEMN obvious, that he FACILITATED it.

Was Helping that madman.

Which -- CONFIRMS my point. That Demns ALWAYS was more comfy, with making deals with madmans. ;-P



\\So, the Idiot Qtard thinks whichever party the president is if there is a war -- they're responsible for that war? Maybe Qtard thinks FDR colluded with Hitler? That Hitler was FDR's "master"?

I'm sure that in all this years ANY traces of such colluding was ERADICATED, anyway...

Yawn.



\\FDR was a Northern Democrat from NY.

I. DON'T. CARE.

I'm foreigner.

Snooze.


Joe Conservative said...

He thinks "northern" Democrats were better than "Southern" ones. What a maroon!

Anonymous said...

Naaah.

He's idiot becaue it trying to sway with it a foreigner... it still unable to recognize as one. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

It... just screaming about LOW intellectual abilities.

Anonymous said...

Because "better" or "worse" that is still viable as subjective oponions.

But, inability to understand CONTEXT -- that is objective trait.

Joe Conservative said...

Re-framing/ de-contextualizing. All post-modern inventions.

Dervish Sanders said...

Southern Democrats were DINOs. Proven by the fact that they later broke away and became Dixiecrats.

Unless what you're saying is that the so-called Never trumpers aren't RINOs. Why do you get to disown your own party members by calling them RINOs, but Democrats can't do the same re party members who died decades ago?

The Democratic party of the past being fractured into 2 parts (Southern and Northern) is obviously way to complicated for The Idiot Qtard to understand (it can't even count that high).

The Idiot is also to dumb to understand that wing of the Democratic Party no longer exists. Minus FJ exhibits the same dumbness. But I think Minus is faking it.

Minus admits this feigning of dumbness is part of the "reframing". "Reframing" magically allowed Mitch McConnell (the GOP Senate leader for many years) to be transformed into a RINO.

The "uniparty" reframe is another technique trumpturds use to run away from republicans and republican policy they claim to be against.

Another "reframe" concerns your rewrite of the history of the Democratic Party. Instead of dying off, the Dixiecrats took over. Democrats are ALL Dixiecrats now under this false narrative. A useful narrative to deflect from the fact that you voted for a racist orange turd to lead your party.

Joe Conservative said...

Dervy believes that the Dixiecrats ALL became Republicans as part of a Nixonian Southern Strategy, when the actual record reveals that only two Dixiecrats ever switched parties, and that the remainder all continued service to the Democratic Party. He sometimes adds, "the reformed ones".

What a maroon!

Dervish Sanders said...

Minus: Dervy believes that the Dixiecrats ALL became Republicans.

No. They remained Democrats until they died.

Minus: He sometimes adds, "the reformed ones".

I never said that. They died a long time ago. They are no longer in Congress.

Minus: What a maroon!

Ok. The "Dervy" you describe might be a maroon. But that "Dervy" doesn't exist.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Robert Byrd, racist Dixiecrat? Or loyal Democrat. You tell me, Dervy. Ooooops.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

btw Q, he was Hillary Clinton's "mentor".

Dervish Sanders said...

Ooooops?? Robert Byrd is the only one I know of who reformed. He said so himself. The quotes are able to be found using Google. Maybe you think he lied? Regardless, he is dead.

Joe Manchin currently holds that seat. Do you think he's a racist? Apparently you think Hillary Clinton is. You do know she isn't in politics anymore, right? And she isn't going to run again.

Now I suppose you might bring up this?

Anonymous said...

\\Re-framing/ de-contextualizing. All post-modern inventions.

Emperors New Clothes? ;-P



\\complicated for The Idiot Qtard to understand (it can't even count that high).

Yap.

You gotcha.

Because I'm foreigner.

And don't care.

Yawn. :-))))))))))))))))))))))




\\The Idiot is also to dumb to understand that wing of the Democratic Party no longer exists. Minus FJ exhibits

Well... Nazis are 6 feet in the ground... but Nazism STILL EXIST.

Derpy-Derpy, you CANNOT have it BOTH way. ;-P

That way... you'll only prove being Hyporitical Idiot. :-))))))))))))))))))



\\ You do know she isn't in politics anymore, right? And she isn't going to run again.

Ha-ha-ha... and have NO influence?

Or... maybe she died? :-))))))))))))))

What an idiot, totaly oblivious about social relations. Especially among those who in power.

And THIS schmuk tryed to say that it talking ABOUT POLITICS here... thought it have ZILCH, NADA, NONE idea about what politics is.

:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))(ad infinitum)

Dervish Sanders said...

"Well... Nazis are 6 feet in the ground... but Nazism STILL EXIST".

Right. All over the world people are identifying as Nazi. Including in Ukraine. Like in the Azov battalion. Also in the country where Qtard lives (Russia?).

"...you CANNOT have it BOTH way".

People all over the world identify as Nazi or neo-nazi. Nobody identifies as Dixiecrat.

"Ha-ha-ha... and have NO influence?"

As someone holding (or running for) political office? No.

"And THIS schmuk tryed to say that it talking ABOUT POLITICS here... thought it have ZILCH, NADA, NONE idea about what politics is".

Clearly I know more about American politics than the schmuck Qtard. Especially given Qtard's comments about not caring, not knowing and not wanting to know, (lying about) Democrats and Republicans being "of one face" to it and (most significantly) claiming American politics aren't even being discussed here.

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Apparently you think Hillary Clinton is. You do know she isn't in politics anymore, right? And she isn't going to run again.

Now I suppose you might bring up this?


He was also Brandon's mentor. :)

Joe Conservative said...

:P

Anonymous said...

\\Right. All over the world people are identifying as Nazi.

Or... that is people like you that calling em that way.

Or... you can give a PROMPT fact... where'd in the world there'd be a party, IN POWER especially, that would waged World War???

Well... there IS. In Rush'A. Rush'A is ALL OUT in preparation for World War. With ALL atributes present: total control of minds, state programs of militarisation, anti-jew rethoric... but you, YOU IGNORING it.

Because your DEMN propaganda NOT told you.

Or because it much more safer and easier -- to blame powerless, struggling under feet of opressor... to blame "see, see, there is Nazis there".

You are... dispicable, Derpy.

With only excuse -- that you are idiot. Which totally expalin such your (a)moral leniense.



\\Including in Ukraine. Like in the Azov battalion. Also in the country where Qtard lives (Russia?).

Yap.

EXCUSES! EXCUSES! EXCUSES!

DEMN EXCUSES.

"We do not need to help Ukraine... we do not need to give planes to them... because SEE, there is NAZIS there!!!... some dude from CNN, SAID THAT... so now we need to follow his word, like that is Holy Scripture... and call it FACT" (jerky smile)



\\People all over the world identify as Nazi or neo-nazi.

By other people who calling em that way?



\\As someone holding (or running for) political office? No.

That's why you are idiot, Derpy.

And not fit to discuss Politics. Even though you tryed to say that you are, so frantikly.

The BIGGEST power... IS NOT when one sitting in the office. But when it possible to influence politics from behind. Such uncontrollable power is the sweetest.



\\Clearly I know more about American politics than the schmuck Qtard.

Yap.

"Knowladge" spoon-feeded to you by Propaganda. :-)))))))))))))))))))))

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Qtard: \\Right. All over the world people are identifying as Nazi\\Or... that is people like you that calling em that way.

No. I read the news. See that they're calling themselves nazis. Waving nazi flags and nazi emblems. Hear them chanting Nazi slogans.

Qtard: Or... you can give a PROMPT fact... where'd in the world there'd be a party, IN POWER especially, that would waged World War???

Qtard keeps moving the goalposts. Now Nazis can't be Nazis unless they are "IN POWER" and able to take a country to war.

Qtard: Well... there IS. In Rush'A. Rush'A is ALL OUT in preparation for World War. With ALL atributes present: total control of minds, state programs of militarisation, anti-jew rethoric... but you, YOU IGNORING it.

Qtard thinks it can read my mind. We haven't been discussing the chances of WWIII occuring. We've been discussing Nazis around the world. And Qtard's absurd assertions that Nazis don't exist anymore -- as per Qtard's "No True Scotsman" definition of what a Nazi is.

Except in Russia. The ONLY country in the world where there are Nazis.

In any case, I think Putin would much rather Russia and the US be allies instead of going to war with us.

Qtard: Because your DEMN propaganda NOT told you.

Because the "Demn propaganda" Qtard is talking about is a product of its delusions. "Demn propaganda" can't tell me anything because it isn't real.

Qtard: Or because it much more safer and easier -- to blame powerless, struggling under feet of opressor... to blame "see, see, there is Nazis there".

No "blame". Only acknowledgement of reality. That there are Nazis all over the world.

Qtard: You are... dispicable, Derpy.

Qtard is despicable. Ignoring Minus FJ spreading Putin's propaganda. Ignoring Minus FJ saying we should not be helping Ukraine. You say he can "speak for himself". While attacking me, a person pushing back against Putin's propaganda. Saying USA helping Ukraine should continue.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Qtard: With only excuse -- that you are idiot. Which totally expalin such your (a)moral leniense.

An idiot for acknowledging reality? Not denying (like Qtard is) objective reality?

Qtard: \\Including in Ukraine. Like in the Azov battalion. Also in the country where Qtard lives (Russia?). Yap. EXCUSES! EXCUSES! EXCUSES! DEMN EXCUSES.

republiturd excuses.

Qtard: "We do not need to help Ukraine... we do not need to give planes to them... because SEE, there is NAZIS there!!!...

republiturds are saying that.

Qtard: ...some dude from CNN, SAID THAT... so now we need to follow his word, like that is Holy Scripture... and call it FACT" (jerky smile)

MANY reporters giving facts saying that.

Qtard: \\People all over the world identify as Nazi or neo-nazi\\By other people who calling em that way?

Calling themselves :(.

Qtard: \\As someone holding (or running for) political office? No\\That's why you are idiot, Derpy. And not fit to discuss Politics. Even though you tryed to say that you are, so frantikly.

The idiot Qtard says politics aren't even being discussed.

Qtard: The BIGGEST power... IS NOT when one sitting in the office. But when it possible to influence politics from behind. Such uncontrollable power is the sweetest.

Hmmm... maybe then, it was Hillary Clinton who told Joe Biden to say "Ukraine do not need planes"? Although I heard it is Barack Obama who is pulling Joe Biden's strings. Why does Qtard blame a dementia-addled old man? (sarcasm that might cause the idiot to screech "you admitted it!!")

Qtard: \\Clearly I know more about American politics than the schmuck Qtard\\Yap. "Knowladge" spoon-feeded to you by Propaganda. **moronic laughter**

rightturd propaganda spoonfed to Qtard. Qtard laps it up.

Anonymous said...

\\No. I read the news. See that they're calling themselves nazis. Waving nazi flags and nazi emblems. Hear them chanting Nazi slogans.

And???


\\Qtard: Or... you can give a PROMPT fact... where'd in the world there'd be a party, IN POWER especially, that would waged World War???

\\Qtard keeps moving the goalposts. Now Nazis can't be Nazis unless they are "IN POWER" and able to take a country to war.

Because.

*I* GAVE you definition I prefer to use -- historical Nazis -- from NSDAP party of Germany, that who commited Holocaust crimes, and World War.

That they was waving flags with special insignia... is pretty much insignifical, in compare.



\\as per Qtard's "No True Scotsman" definition of what a Nazi is.

Naaah.

Mine definition is PROPER.

And gives me ability to call liliPut nazi-like -- because it trying to match in crime THAT historical nazis.

Why you... though you call itself ANTI-nazi... prefer to chase wild goose... instead of pointing to that fact of Reality.



\\In any case, I think Putin would much rather Russia and the US be allies instead of going to war with us.

Yap.

Allies in being like nazis... to all World around.

And Derpy's Totalitarian Wananbe soul sings from such perspectives. Isn't it?

But Derpy will hypocritically shout "NO"... while hypocritically holding its fingers crossed... because in NewSpeak that "NO" means hot YESSS!!!! ;-P



\\"Demn propaganda" can't tell me anything because it isn't real.

Like that article from CNN??? ;-P



\\No "blame". Only acknowledgement of reality. That there are Nazis all over the world.

All in the eyes of beholder. (c)



\\Qtard is despicable. Ignoring Minus FJ spreading Putin's propaganda.

BS.

I pointed to factual mistakes of FJ many times.

That... that you ignored it -- not my problem.



\\While attacking me, a person pushing back against Putin's propaganda.

Yap.

That "pushing back against Putin's propaganda" -- when you REPEAT word-to-word liliPut's Propaganda, like "there is Nazis in Ukraine"?

Clearly... NewSpeak used here.

How'd I know?

Relentlessly counter-factual.

It.

Is.



\\An idiot for acknowledging reality? Not denying (like Qtard is) objective reality?

One who says "I believe in facts"? One who shouts "I *DO* deny..." em their rights?

Yawn.


\\Qtard: "We do not need to help Ukraine... we do not need to give planes to them... because SEE, there is NAZIS there!!!...

\\republiturds are saying that.

And Bi-den are (secret?) republiturd? ;-P



\\MANY reporters giving facts saying that.

And MANY reporters do recieve money for spreading such lies.

So what?



\\Qtard: \\As someone holding (or running for) political office? No\\That's why you are idiot, Derpy. And not fit to discuss Politics. Even though you tryed to say that you are, so frantikly.

\\The idiot Qtard says politics aren't even being discussed.

Yup.

Cause you are idiot... which unable to grok what discussing politics is about. ;-P

YOU, gotcha. At last. :-)))))))))))))))))0



\\Hmmm... maybe then, it was Hillary Clinton who told Joe Biden to say "Ukraine do not need planes"? Although I heard it is Barack Obama who is pulling Joe Biden's strings. Why does Qtard blame a dementia-addled old man? (sarcasm that might cause the idiot to screech "you admitted it!!")

Yup.

You CONFIRMED being idiot.

YET ONE time.

Joe Conservative said...

Q,

I hear your message, "Russia/ China are the threat". But "freedom" involves taking risks. Pursuing "safety" at all times turn you into a Russia/ China. Risking that "the other" retains his "otherness" and doesn't (or better can't) impose his "otherness" on you and subsequently achieve "sameness" on his terms.

Russia/ China saw our wealth and then desired to achieve "sameness" with us. We stupidly let one join it before they qualified for membership (liberal democracy) and then stupidly turned down the other once they had met the minimal criteria for joining because of an historical animus.

Societies of sovereignty evolve into disciplinary societies evolve into societies of control evolve into achievement societies (where we are now in America) each stage becomes seemingly less mandatory/punitive. Only in the last, we mostly punish ourselves (depression, loneliness, suicide, etc.) in the pursuit of "surplus salaries".

Joe Conservative said...

. . . the advent of Law entails a kind of ‘disalienation’: in so far as the Other itself appears submitted to the ‘absolute condition’ of Law, the subject is no more at the mercy of the Other’s whim, its desire is no more totally alienated in the Other’s desire. . . In contrast to the ‘post-structuralist’ notion of a law checking, canalizing, alienating, oppressing ‘Oedipianizing’ some previous ‘flux of desire,’ Law is here conceived as an agency of ‘disalienation’ and ‘liberation’: it opens our access to desire by enabling us to disengage ourselves from the rule of the Other’s whim.

- Slavoj Zizek, "For They Know Not What They Do"

We, in America, are no longer protected from persecution at the "others' whim. As the Roman historian Tacitus once remarked in "The Annals of Imperial Rome", “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.”

Joe Conservative said...

The "others whim" lives in the form of "prosecutorial discretion" of a politically indoctrinated/ partisan and corrupt bureaucracy.

Joe Conservative said...

btw...

Joe Conservative said...

...in other words, it's "internal'.

Anonymous said...

\\Societies of sovereignty evolve into disciplinary societies evolve into societies of control evolve into achievement societies...

Well...

that is good discretion... well, maybe... for a peaceful times.

But now, today... times of war.

You still hesitate to admit.

And that is -- very dangerous. Like that date. Of Yesterday. Shows.

Joe Conservative said...

We've been at war almost continuously for over 20 years. Maybe we should try "peace" for a change. We haven't won a war since 1945.

Joe Conservative said...

...and THAT one only took 4 years to win.

Joe Conservative said...

We're also DONE being the UN's policemen. The UN doesn't allow anyone to win wars any more. It simply puts the losers into refugee camps and pays them to fight perpetual low-level rebellions (like the Palestinians) with the support money.

Joe Conservative said...

You're hoping the US will "win" your war for you. We (per the UN) don't do "win".

Anonymous said...

That is... you war.

Nukes in silos are with coordinates of YOUR cities.

And that... because YOU NOT torn that nuclear fangs out of that beast mouth.



\\We've been at war almost continuously for over 20 years.

But that... was YOUR "war of choice".

Would you respond to that Saddam or bin Laden inquiry??? Like "we not ready to war TODAY... please, come tomorrow"? ;-P



\\(like the Palestinians) with the support money.

Isn't that your Dems doing?

with their anti-Israel propaganda?

And you Brutus?