Friday, February 16, 2024

Putin's REAL Puppet Finally Revealed

Matt Taibbi, Michael Shellenberger, and Alex Gutentag, "CIA 'Cooked The Intelligence' To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump, In 2016, Sources Say"
The Russians didn't fear a Hillary Clinton presidency. “It was a relationship they were comfortable with,” CIA analysts believed

The Trump-Russia scandal made its formal launch on January 6th, 2017, when the office of the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper published what’s called an “Intelligence Community Assessment,” or “ICA,” as it’s universally known in Washington.

Release of the ICA dominated headlines, fixed Donald Trump in the minds of millions of Americans as a Manchurian candidate controlled by Vladamir Putin, and upended his in-coming administration.

The report declared that Russia and Putin interfered in the 2016 presidential election to “denigrate” Hillary Clinton and “harm her electability,” thanks to their “clear preference for President-elect [Donald] Trump.”

It was powerful stuff. And it was dead wrong.

The documents make it quite clear that the evidence showed that the Kremlin wanted Hillary Clinton to win, but partisans in the intelligence community wanted to get Trump. So Brennan, an Obama partisan, handpicked his intelligence analysts, who would then cherrypick intelligence to reach the conclusion that Brennan wanted.
 
How they accomplished this was incredibly disturbing:
Former CIA Director John Brennan and the ICA authors “embellished” their conclusion by upgrading unreliable sources to reliable, the source said. “They upgraded in the writing of their report to let those sources have more credibility and a higher rating. We caught them on 3-4 items where those people didn’t have a credible historic reporting line and changed the source rating for that Brennan report.”

Dissent, even within Brennan’s group of 24 “hand-picked” analysts — not from 17 agencies but just four, and really just three, when one considers the ODNI is just a coordinating agency — was overruled. 
None of this information that Public and Racket shared was publicly available until now. And the story continues down a very disturbing path. According to Public, "Multiple sources said Brennan’s exclusion of the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence Research (INR) were and are red flags pointing to a manipulated conclusion."

Former CIA official Ray McGovern said, “The real story is that Brennan and [former Director of National Intelligence James] Clapper succeeded in marginalizing both the State Department and the DIA, which has primary responsibility for the GRU.”

44 comments:

mystere's moonbat slayer club said...

Joe, I just downloaded the photo from here, and I'll use it on the WordPress site I manage. Great find, Joe!

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

No worries!

Dervish Sanders said...

Mystere likes the Taibbi and Shellenberger trumpturd fan fiction you posted about.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Breaking News... GOOD News!!

The dotard donald tRump crime family is finished!

The tRump organization has been ordered to pay 355 million in the NY fraud case.

Additionally, dotard donald is prohibited from operating a business in NY for 3 years.

Due to the bigly fraud he committed.

If dotard donald can't be trusted to run a business, he surely cannot be trusted to run the country.

dotard donald will appeal, though he must post a bond covering the $355 million.

But... let me guess... as per your delusions, dotard donald will appeal and win. And the judge will be arrested and charged with prosecutorial misconduct. Mystere likely thinks Judge Arthur Engoron will be sent to Gitmo, charged with treason and "taken out" (executed).

Mystere wrote on his blog that (in his delusions) dotard donald mouthed off to Judge Arthur Engoron, telling him "bring it on. I will mop the floor with your flea ridden toupee".

Though Mystere posted that as part of a post titled CIA Spied On Donald John Trump In 2015. Apparently Mystere (because he is a moron) thinks dotard donald has been charged with a crime related to his Russian collusion and Judge Arthur Engoron is presiding over that trial?

Judge Arthur Engoron has nothing to do with dotard donald being "spied on" by the CIA in 2015, Mystere. Mystere also thinks dotard donald is egging on AG Garland. dotard's "bring it on" is also directed at Garland. And dotard donald is also going to "mop the floor" with Garland's "flea ridden toupee".

:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Taibbi and Shellenberger are facilitators of trumpturd delusions. They make money selling fantasies to delusional tRumpturds. Like the fake prophets Mystere listens to.

But the cheap bastard Minus likely isn't paying Taibbi anything. That's OK. Others are willing to pay bigly. Google says Taibbi's net worth is $5 million.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

$453.5 million including interest. dotard will soon have to start liquidating assets to pay what he owes E Jean Carroll and NY. LOL!

mystere's moonbat slayer club said...

Be very careful about what you gloat with glee over, Dervish. You just set yourself up for a family curse, Dervish, that will last for several generations.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Dervy always forgets about the Court of Appeal...

Dervish Sanders said...

No. I wrote "dotard donald will appeal". He will appeal but he will lose that appeal. Minus always forgets that appealing does not mean that the prior decision is necessarily reversed.

As per Google "Defendants achieve reversal of adverse trial court judgments in about 10 percent of filed cases..."

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

He'll only lose in an appeal court POLITICALLY stacked against him.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Victimless crimes don't yield $350b judgements in any honest court in the land.

But please, keep destroying the judicial system. See what THAT gets you.

Dervish Sanders said...

dotard donald will only win in an appeal court POLITICALLY stacked in his favor.

Dervish Sanders said...

I don't give a crap about your religious delusions, Mystere.

Joe Conservative said...

So, who'll get the $350m? WHICH victims?

Joe Conservative said...

...oh, THAT's right. There AREN'T ANY.

Joe Conservative said...

...and that's why Trump won't lose.

Joe Conservative said...

...you've no no 'starving" Gazan children to point to.

Thersites said...

...it doesn't pass the smell test even with MSNBC hosts.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Reuters: The attorney general's office ... disputed the notion that there were no victims, saying Trump's bankers were harmed because they could have charged higher interest on loans if they knew his true net worth was lower than he claimed.

Engoron has been unequivocal in rejecting Trump's arguments, saying in a September ruling in the case that Trump's claim about a lack of victims was "completely irrelevant". In Friday's decision, Engoron said that repaying loans secured on false pretenses "does not extinguish the harm that false statements inflict on the marketplace".

Slate: ...it was difficult if not impossible to justify the overinflated financial statements, effectively forcing Trump (and the other defendants) into a "we lied but so what" defense. That argument was doomed to fail because -- whether phrased as Trump's shouts of "No victims, No Fraud, No Crimes, Happy Banks and Insurance Companies" or his lawyer's more sophisticated wording that the financial (mis)statements caused "no harm to the public … or implicated the public market in any way" -- victim loss is not legally required. Ultimately, Engoron appropriately found that, as one commentator put it, "breaking the law is breaking the law".

Trump has vowed to appeal, but nothing in the record stands out that would overturn the judgment. [end]

I've heard that the judgement might be reduced on appeal (the commentator said maybe by 20 percent). The "no victims" defense was presented in court -- and rejected.

The verdict definitely passes the smell test. dotard and his spawn (dotard jr, Eric and Ivana jr) ALL LIED. Egregiously. To secure the loans and in court.

Katy Tur doesn't say tRump is innocent and the verdict should be that tRump pay nothing for breaking the law by telling bigly lies to get lower rates on loans (or get the loans at all).

"Trump won't lose".

He will DEFINITELY lose. Even if the judgement is greatly reduced (it won't be). But the verdict won't be overturned. He won't end up with a judgment against him of $0.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

So the money's going to be used to compensate bankers?

Acta non verba, Dervy.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...or does NYC need money to pay to house all the illegals that DeSantis bused up from Florida and that are now staying in city.

Who needs Congress to fund welfare programs when a corrupt judiciary can do it for you? Make the guy who wanted to build a wall fund it!

Anonymous said...

Whatever.

He'll just declare bankruptcy. ;-P

Anonymous said...

Qtard: Whatever. He'll just declare bankruptcy.

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

ABC News: Under the judge's ruling... Trump would still be liable to pay even if the Trump Organization declares bankruptcy. If Trump personally declared bankruptcy, the enforcement of the judgment against him would be paused. But political commenters say such a drastic step is unlikely.

Legally, Trump would face the same consequences as any American refusing to pay a legal judgment, including the possibility of having his assets seized and his wages garnished.

In the event that Trump refused to hand over payments, the courts would have additional discretion to go after Trump and his businesses.

“They have a huge amount of power particularly for someone like Trump who has physical assets inside the state ... The court might say we’re going to freeze your bank account. Or ... they could say, ’We’re seizing Trump Tower and we’re putting it up for sale'".

Minus: ...a corrupt judiciary...

You are confused about who is corrupt. It isn't the judiciary prosecuting fraud -- it is the person convinced of fraud.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Convinced? LOL!

Joe Conservative said...

Wouldn't THAT be you?

Anonymous said...

Convicted.

I had nothing to do with the tRump organization's bigly and brazen frauding.

Anonymous said...

\\Legally, Trump would face the same consequences as any American refusing to pay a legal judgment, including the possibility of having his assets seized and his wages garnished.

But not his election funds. ;-P

And not his bitcoin purse. :-))))

But well... DEMNs could try to persecute him to the same level as liliPut did with Navalny...

Q-Taro, A Highly Intelligent Commentator And Snarky Dude! said...

Dervish Sanders February 17, 2024 at 9:22 AM
"I don't give a Barack Obama about your religious delusions, Mystere."

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

The excessive judgement (5th largest in US history) in the Trump case would seem to make it a cut-and-dried case of election interference were the judge in the case to be charged.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Qtard: But not his election funds. And not his bitcoin purse.

Can Bitcoin Be Seized? Bitcoin seizure occurs when a law enforcement agency obtains the bitcoin address and private key of an individual or entity which violated the law. Sometimes the agency will target the exchange which hosts the wallet in question to seize a private key. Other times, the agency will attempt to seize the bitcoin by hacking the defendant's hot wallet and procuring the private keys, or dispossessing the owner of a cold wallet. These warrants are typically sealed, unlike warrants seizing an address, which also disclose the full history of transactions involving the address in question to demonstrate probable cause.

FEC: Personal use of campaign funds is prohibited.

Qtard: But well... DEMNs could try to persecute him to the same level as liliPut did with Navalny...

Comparing dotard donald to Alexei Navalny again. Why? Because they are both human? Certainly not because they were both presidents. Or because both were/are corrupt.

If dotard donald goes to prison he will receive top notch medical care and secret service protection. He won't be killed or hung. That's what republiturds (dotard worshipers like Mystere) want for Joe Biden, Barack Obama and the Clintons (for them to be executed).

Minus: The excessive judgement (5th largest in US history) in the Trump case would seem to make it a cut-and-dried case of election interference were the judge in the case to be charged.

Every judge who ruled against dotard donald and every prosecutor who went after tRump is going to end up being charged and convicted... in Minus FJ's trumpturd delusions.

The judge will NOT be charged.

btw... President Trump's older sister, Maryanne Trump Barry, has retired as a federal appellate judge, ending an investigation into whether she violated judicial conduct rules by participating in fraudulent tax schemes with her siblings.

dotard donald's sister retired as a judge to avoid charges. I dunno why she should have been able to do that.

The ENTIRE tRump family is corrupt. Well, maybe not Barron or Tiffany. Also not Mary Trump. She is not a fan of her corrupt uncle (who stole her father's inheritance that should have gone to her and her brother).

Anonymous said...

\\Comparing dotard donald to Alexei Navalny again. Why? Because they are both human?

Because they both persecuted through sham trials. ;-P

Or... show HOW MUCH you know about Navalny... you tried to brag that you know a lot.

Are you reading in Cyrilic? ;-P



\\Or because both were/are corrupt.

Yeah. YET ONE fact when IT repeating liliPut's propaganda. Directly from liliPut's dick.


\\If dotard donald goes to prison he will receive top notch medical care and secret service protection.

Yeah.

SAME top notch "protection" as Epstein.

BTW.

SAME as Navalny's case: video monitoring suddenly disappeared, no truthful death report, case closed.

Dervish Sanders said...

Qtard: Yeah. YET ONE fact when IT repeating liliPut's propaganda. Directly from liliPut's dick.

YES. *IT* IS.

Putin: Some of the people who took a stroll to the U.S. Congress — 150 people were arrested, they face imprisonment from 15 to 25 years. link

Oh, so the J6 insurrectionists were just "going by streets".

Putin: Everything that is happening with Trump is the persecution of a political rival for political reasons. That’s what it is. link

So, what Putin is saying is that tRump is being gone after "Mark Twain running for governor" style.

Or "they both persecuted through sham trials".

Only Navalny was persecuted via a sham trial. Only tRump is corrupt.

Qtard: SAME top notch "protection" as Epstein.

Epstein died in prison while tRump was president. Conveniently his buddy was silenced before he could give details about rapes and sex with unage girls he and tRump participated in.

Dervish Sanders said...

"unage" should be Under Age. Like Katie Johnson. According to her account donald tRump and Epstein both raped her at Jeff's NY home at a party when she was 13.

If Epstein had confirmed that he and tRump raped Katie Johnson, would that (to Qtard) be more Navalny-type persecution?

Anonymous said...

\\ Dervish Sanders said...

\\ Qtard: Yeah. YET ONE fact when IT repeating liliPut's propaganda. Directly from liliPut's dick.

\\ YES. *IT* IS.

Yep.

Derpish Sadners AKA IT (because it oftenly cannot admit/remember OWN words... saying somebody ELSE written em, which is open symptom of split-personality disorder)

I'm glad that IT started ADMITTING it... and with such a vigor.

But.

Most surely. IT will start screaming that SOMEBODY ELSE have said, have written, have admitted that...

like, some OTHER of ITS alter-egos. ;-P


AND.

That IT shamlessly citing liliPut's propaganda directly sucked from liliPutian dick.

HERE. Perfect FACTual Quote.

\\Putin: Some of the people who took a stroll to the U.S. Congress — 150 people were arrested, they face imprisonment from 15 to 25 years. link

HERE ^^^^^^

But.

That cretin WILL start claiming "I NEVER said it". TOO. :-)))))))))))))))



\\Only Navalny was persecuted via a sham trial. Only tRump is corrupt.

And PREVIOUSLY written words... under nickname Derpis Sadners...

Perfect FACTual Quote AGAIN!


\\Blogger Dervish Sanders said...

\\ Comparing dotard donald to Alexei Navalny again. Why? ... because both were/are corrupt.

\\ February 19, 2024 at 10:57 AM

Was written by SAMEBODY else? ;-P

See, see, see ^^^^^^^^ MY clever pun.

Something. Cretin absolutely UNABLE!!! to achieve.



\\Epstein died in prison while tRump was president. Conveniently his buddy was silenced before he could give details about rapes and sex with unage girls he and tRump participated in.

Yeah???

And DEMN POTUS *DID* *NOT* ordered to investigate it thoroughly???

To cover for dRump???

Or... to NOT it be found that DEMN Mafia was responsible for that death? ;-P


Dervish Sanders said...

Qtard: I'm glad that IT started ADMITTING it... and with such a vigor.

Admitted it about YOU.

Qtard: Most surely. IT will start screaming that SOMEBODY ELSE have said, have written, have admitted that...

Surely not. I admitted that YOU repeat Putin's propaganda. I don't see anyone else admitting that fact.

Qtard: like, some OTHER of ITS alter-egos.

No, your alter egos all deny it.

Qtard: That IT shamlessly citing liliPut's propaganda directly sucked from liliPutian dick.

Right. You do that all the time.

Qtard: HERE. Perfect FACTual Quote.\\Putin: Some of the people who took a stroll to the U.S. Congress — 150 people were arrested, they face imprisonment from 15 to 25 years.

Sounds like your words.

Qtard: But. That cretin WILL start claiming "I NEVER said it". TOO.

But that cretin DID say it. Well, words that are VERY similar. Words about J6 insurrectionists "going by streets" -- YOUR words!

Qtard: \\Only Navalny was persecuted via a sham trial. Only tRump is corrupt\\ And PREVIOUSLY written words... under nickname Derpis Sadners... Perfect FACTual Quote AGAIN!

No. There are no words of any "Derpis Sadners" for you to quote.

Qtard: \\Blogger Dervish Sanders said...\\ Comparing dotard donald to Alexei Navalny again. Why? ... because both were/are corrupt.

Sarcasm. My argument was that they CAN'T be compared. Because ONLY tRump is corrupt. You were the one comparing them. Forgot?

Qtard: Was written by SAMEBODY else?

Yeah, by YOU. YOU were the one comparing them.

Qtard: See, see, see ^^^^^^^^ MY clever pun.

No.

Qtard: Something. Cretin absolutely UNABLE!!! to achieve.

"Samebody"? That is a pun? Yeah, no. I can't "achieve" same moronity as IT.

Qtard: \\Epstein died in prison while tRump was president. Conveniently his buddy was silenced before he could give details about rapes and sex with unage girls he and tRump participated in\\ Yeah??? And DEMN POTUS *DID* *NOT* ordered to investigate it thoroughly???

There wasn't one. tRump was president when Epstein died.

Qtard: To cover for dRump???

Bill Barr covered it up.

Qtard: Or... to NOT it be found that DEMN Mafia was responsible for that death?

Qtard's delusions. Yawn.

Anonymous said...

\\ Dervish Sanders said...

\\ Qtard: I'm glad that IT started ADMITTING it... and with such a vigor.

\\ Admitted it about YOU.

Yeah.

Usage of "YOU" instead of "I"... with such a vigor. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))



\\Surely not. I admitted that YOU repeat Putin's propaganda.

And you can CITE it? ;-P



\\Qtard: That IT shamlessly citing liliPut's propaganda directly sucked from liliPutian dick.

\\Right. You do that all the time.

But... you UNABLE to give quote of it.

Because it all inside your mind? ;-P

:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0



\\Sounds like your words.

Yeah.

In your mind.

Sounds of your alter-egos echoing non-stop. ;-P

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))00



\\My argument was that they CAN'T be compared.

Yeah.

dRump still not dead. And not in prison even. ;-P



\\I can't "achieve" same moronity as IT.

I'm glad that you see your alter-ego IT as your equal -- because that is YOU exactly. ;-P

:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0



Dervish Sanders said...

Qtard: Usage of "YOU" instead of "I"... with such a vigor.

No.

Qtard: \\Surely not. I admitted that YOU repeat Putin's propaganda\\ And you can CITE it? ;-P

I have many times. Why should I do so again? You will just forget again.

Or LIE. Say I'm quoting "my master" to spread his propaganda. Like when I pointed out that your "walking by streets" defense of the J6 insurrectionists sounded VERY similar to what Putin said in defense of the same people. And Putin is also (just like you) saying tRump is being politically persecuted.

Qtard: That IT shamlessly citing liliPut's propaganda directly sucked from liliPutian dick\\Right. You do that all the time\\ But... you UNABLE to give quote of it.

I am. I have. Right above. In THIS thread.

Qtard: Because it all inside your mind?

Written here. On this blog.

Qtard: \\Sounds like your words\\ Yeah. In your mind. Sounds of your alter-egos echoing non-stop. ;-P

Your words. Written here. On this blog.

Qtard: \\My argument was that they CAN'T be compared\\ Yeah. dRump still not dead. And not in prison even.

And (according to you) the charges will go poof. Navalny charges did not.

Qtard: \\I can't "achieve" same moronity as IT\\ I'm glad that you see your alter-ego IT as your equal -- because that is YOU exactly. ;-P

Wrote "you, your, your you" when you meant to write "I, my, my, me". Yawn.

Anonymous said...

\\ Dervish Sanders said...

\\ Qtard: Usage of "YOU" instead of "I"... with such a vigor.

\\ No.

And... NewSpeak "Yes".

Yawn.



\\Or LIE. Say I'm quoting "my master" to spread his propaganda.

And you NOT quoted liliPut???

Without any need for such quotes.

Just because you like his voice/narrative, and want to proliferate it. ;-P



\\ Like when I pointed out that your "walking by streets" defense of the J6 insurrectionists sounded VERY similar to what Putin said in defense of the same people.

Unlike you... liliPut KNOW that for propaganda to be successful... it need to be based on some facts.

Like that OPEN and OBVIOUS fact -- that people REALLY was peacefully going by the streets.



\\And Putin is also (just like you) saying tRump is being politically persecuted.

Insurrection -- it's political crime -- means, crime against state power.

And that is YOUR cretinic claim -- that people, "insurrectionists", was persecuted for commiting some political crime. And not some miserlty vandalism or totally unrealted to "crime scene" as DEMN propaganda trying to pound.

Political crime
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki
In criminology, a political crime or political offence is an offence that prejudices the interests of the state or its government.
‎Overview · ‎Authoritarian governments · ‎Specific crimes · ‎Terrorism



\\And Putin is also (just like you) saying tRump is being politically persecuted.

Yeah.

Because that is OBVIOUS TRUTH... propaganda then using in a twisted way.

Like, for example, that CNN reporter tried to use words of Ukrainian Patriot... to call him "see, he admitted being nazi".



\\I am. I have. Right above. In THIS thread.

And THIS is... reference to post of certain someone Dervish Sanders... giving quotes of its puppet-master liliPut. ;-P




Dervish Sanders said...

Qtard: Usage of "YOU" instead of "I"... with such a vigor\\ No\\ And... NewSpeak "Yes".

No. <-- not "NewSpeak yes".

Qtard: \\Or LIE. Say I'm quoting "my master" to spread his propaganda.

And you NOT quoted liliPut???

No. <-- not "NewSpeak yes".

Or, did you write "you" when you meant "I"?

Qtard: Without any need for such quotes. Just because you like his voice/narrative, and want to proliferate it.

Self referring talks.

Qtard: \\Like when I pointed out that your "walking by streets" defense of the J6 insurrectionists sounded VERY similar to what Putin said...\\ Unlike you... liliPut KNOW that for propaganda to be successful... it need to be based on some facts.

Exactly. Like the fact there are Nazis in the Azov battalion.

Qtard: Like that OPEN and OBVIOUS fact -- that people REALLY was peacefully going by the streets.

Obvious lie. Fighting with police officers isn't "peaceful". People who only "walked by streets" (and did not enter the Capitol) were not charged with any crimes.

But...

That that there are Nazis in Ukraine's Azov battalion -- that IS an open and obvious fact. Widely reported by honest journalists.

Qtard: \\And Putin is also (just like you) saying tRump is being politically persecuted.
\\ Insurrection -- it's political crime -- means, crime against state power.

Also a crime against the police officers who were assaulted and beaten up.

6 civil suit brought by U.S. Capitol Police officers, appeals court says. Washington — A federal appeals court on Friday allowed a lawsuit brought by a group of U.S. Capitol Police officers against former President Donald Trump to move forward, ruling that Trump is not entitled to absolute immunity from civil lawsuits.

Qtard: And that is YOUR cretinic claim -- that people, "insurrectionists", was persecuted for commiting some political crime.

No. Nobody is being persecuted.

Qtard: And not some miserlty vandalism or totally unrealted to "crime scene" as DEMN propaganda trying to pound.

Lie.

Google: Approximately 71 defendants have been charged with destruction of government property, and approximately 56 defendants have been charged with theft of government property...

Qtard: "In criminology, a political crime or political offence is an offence that prejudices the interests of the state or its government".

So?

Qtard: \\And Putin is also (just like you) saying tRump is being politically persecuted\\ Yeah. Because that is OBVIOUS TRUTH... propaganda then using in a twisted way.

Yes! It is an obvious truth that rightturds are spinning BS about legitimate prosecutions for crimes committed as "political persecution".

Qtard: Like, for example, that CNN reporter tried to use words of Ukrainian Patriot... to call him "see, he admitted being nazi".

You JUST SAID "...for propaganda to be successful... it need to be based on some facts".

Which CONTRADICTS your (many times stated) assertion that there are zero Nazis in Ukraine.

Qtard: \\I am. I have. Right above. In THIS thread\\ And THIS is... reference to post of certain someone Dervish Sanders... giving quotes of its puppet-master liliPut.

No, quotes of YOUR puppet-master, Putin. Quotes of him saying something, then YOU parroting his words very closely.

"for propaganda to be successful... it need to be based on some facts"...

Yeah, that is why Putin/rightturd propaganda about donald tRump being "politically persecuted" isn't working. Smart people know donald tRump's prosecutions are because he broke many laws. And the United States is a nation of laws. Not prosecuting lawbreaking encourages more law breaking.

Anonymous said...

\\ Dervish Sanders said...

\\ Qtard: Usage of "YOU" instead of "I"... with such a vigor\\ No\\ And... NewSpeak "Yes".

\\ No. <-- not "NewSpeak yes".

Translated from NewSpeak: "YES!!! <-- yes, THAT IS "NewSpeak yes"." :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0000

Stop screaming about you being DEMN NewSpeak liar, will ya??? ;-P

Naaah.

Because U R cretin.

But.

Continue-continue, cretin. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))



\\And you NOT quoted liliPut???

\\No. <-- not "NewSpeak yes".

OBVIOUS NewSpeak LIE.

Because you cretin -- DID IT. Just IN THIS THREAD. Above. ;-P

\\ Dervish Sanders said...

\\ Putin: Some of the people who took a stroll to the U.S. Congress — 150 people were arrested, they face imprisonment from 15 to 25 years. link



\\Exactly. Like the fact there are Nazis in the Azov battalion.

Naaah.

That is propaganda based on LONG-LONG as implanted into West LIES.

Yawn.

On equating similarity of word "nationalist" and "nazi".

Based on DEMN lies... that nazis are bad because they "nationalists"... and not because they are national-SOCIALISTS.



\\Obvious lie. Fighting with police officers isn't "peaceful".

And why that dirty cops tried to prevent people their OBVIOUS right of going by streets, and entering PUBLIC buildings, ah???

Isn't that what dirty cops in a Police State doing?

And Police State that is states which are borderline totalitarian.

And you... as totalitarian cretin LIKE IT -- people being DEVOID of their rights, isn't it? ;-P



\\That that there are Nazis in Ukraine's Azov battalion -- that IS an open and obvious fact. Widely reported by honest journalists.

Yeah.

NewSpeak "honest journalists" -- propaganda bullshit spreaders.



\\Qtard: And that is YOUR cretinic claim -- that people, "insurrectionists", was persecuted for commiting some political crime.

\\No. Nobody is being persecuted.

Ha-ha-ha-ha... :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0



\\You JUST SAID "...for propaganda to be successful... it need to be based on some facts".

Yeah.

Like on FACTUAL similarity of words "nationalist" and "nazi" -- they both start from "N" -- ain't that FACT???!!!!

That's exactly HOW propaganda (ab)using facts.

And you'd know it... if you'd not be cretin.

But.

Because you are cretin -- you just repeating and trying to proliferate such "factual in a name only" BS.

But.

Continue-continue, cretin. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))



\\Which CONTRADICTS your (many times stated) assertion that there are zero Nazis in Ukraine.

Of course.

Because nazis it's followers of National-SOCIALISM in Germany.

And they died out... by this time.

For even one such old fart living in Ukraine, TODAY -- that is possibility, but very slim.



\\No, quotes of YOUR puppet-master, Putin. Quotes of him saying something, then YOU parroting his words very closely.

Yeah.

NewSpeak use of words "YOUR", "YOU"... yawn.



\\Yeah, that is why Putin/rightturd propaganda about donald tRump being "politically persecuted" isn't working. Smart people know donald tRump's prosecutions are because he broke many laws. And the United States is a nation of laws. Not prosecuting lawbreaking encourages more law breaking.

Yeah.

Thank you for providing PERFECT example of DEMN propaganda. ;-P

Anonymous said...

No cretinic retorts here? ;-P

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Qtard: Translated from NewSpeak: "YES!!! <-- yes, THAT IS "NewSpeak yes"."

There was nothing to translate. I didn't write anything in NewSpeak.

Qtard: Stop screaming about you being DEMN NewSpeak liar, will ya??? Naaah. Because U R cretin.

You're the cretin. Proven by you asking me to "stop" something I never started.

Qtard: But. Continue-continue, cretin. **moronic laughter**

Self encouragement.

Qtard: \\And you NOT quoted liliPut???\\No. <-- not "NewSpeak yes"\\OBVIOUS NewSpeak LIE\\ Because you cretin -- DID IT. Just IN THIS THREAD. Above.

Not because I agree with Putin. Which is what you imply. To show that YOUR WORDS mirror Putin's.

Qtard: \\ Putin: Some of the people who took a stroll to the U.S. Congress — 150 people were arrested, they face imprisonment from 15 to 25 years. link

Now YOU ARE quoting Putin. Putin's EXACT words are a part of your reply. Which you did to promote your master. Yes?

Qtard: \\Exactly. Like the fact there are Nazis in the Azov battalion\\ Naaah.

Yes.

Qtard: That is propaganda based on LONG-LONG as implanted into West LIES.

No. it is a Fact. Proven by Azov battalion members telling reporters "Yes, I am a Nazi".

Qtard: Yawn.

Yeah. I Yawn. In response to your continued repeating of this lie.

Qtard: On equating similarity of word "nationalist" and "nazi".

Your fact free speculation.

Qtard: Based on DEMN lies... that nazis are bad because they "nationalists"... and not because they are national-SOCIALISTS.

Because they are fascists, not socialists.

Qtard: \\Obvious lie. Fighting with police officers isn't "peaceful"\\ And why that dirty cops tried to prevent people their OBVIOUS right of going by streets, and entering PUBLIC buildings, ah??? Isn't that what dirty cops in a Police State doing?

They vandalized the Capitol building. That isn't a "right". Also, the Capitol was closed. And the permit for the dotard donald rally didn't permit "going by streets".

Qtard: And Police State that is states which are borderline totalitarian.

That wasn't the situation re the rioters fighting with police and vandalizing the Capitol.

Qtard: And you... as totalitarian cretin LIKE IT -- people being DEVOID of their rights, isn't it?

There are no "rights" to fight with police and vandalize buildings.

Qtard: \\That that there are Nazis in Ukraine's Azov battalion -- that IS an open and obvious fact. Widely reported by honest journalists\\Yeah. NewSpeak "honest journalists" -- propaganda bullshit spreaders.

No. I said what I mean. I don't use constantly use NewSpeak.

Qtard: And that is YOUR cretinic claim -- that people, "insurrectionists", was persecuted for commiting some political crime\\\\No. Nobody is being persecuted\\ Ha-ha-ha-ha... **more moronic laughter**

The prosecuted lawbreakers aren't laughing. Maybe if you gave a shit about these people and actually thought they were persecuted -- you wouldn't laugh. But Qtard does not care.

Qtard: \\You JUST SAID "...for propaganda to be successful... it need to be based on some facts"\\ Yeah. Like on FACTUAL similarity of words "nationalist" and "nazi" -- they both start from "N" -- ain't that FACT???!!!!

No. That this is what happened (this word confusion) isn't something you provided any facts to back up.

Qtard: That's exactly HOW propaganda (ab)using facts.

But you gave ZERO evidence that happened.

Qtard: And you'd know it... if you'd not be cretin.

I don't know it. How can anything for which no facts are presented be "known"?

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Qtard: Because you are cretin -- you just repeating and trying to proliferate such "factual in a name only" BS.

Factual in reality.

Qtard: But. Continue-continue, cretin. **moronic laughter**

Self encouragement.

Qtard: \\Which CONTRADICTS your (many times stated) assertion that there are zero Nazis in Ukraine\\ Of course. Because nazis it's followers of National-SOCIALISM in Germany.

No.

Qtard: And they died out... by this time.

And different people said, "I am a Nazi".

Qtard: For even one such old fart living in Ukraine, TODAY -- that is possibility, but very slim.

But I'm not talking about those people. I'm talking about different people. Self identifying as Nazi.

Qtard: \\No, quotes of YOUR puppet-master, Putin. Quotes of him saying something, then YOU parroting his words very closely\\ Yeah. NewSpeak use of words "YOUR", "YOU"... yawn.

No. I never defended the J6 lawbreakers by saying they were "going by streets". That was YOU. You don't remember?? You JUST wrote it above. Quote: "And why that dirty cops tried to prevent people their OBVIOUS right of going by streets". That was YOU who wrote that. Not me.

That was YOU parroting Putin's words comparing the insurrectionists to people going for a stroll.

Qtard: \\Yeah, that is why Putin/rightturd propaganda about donald tRump being "politically persecuted" isn't working. Smart people know donald tRump's prosecutions are because he broke many laws. And the United States is a nation of laws. Not prosecuting lawbreaking encourages more law breaking\\ Yeah. Thank you for providing PERFECT example of DEMN propaganda.

republicans say they are the "law and order" party. So, talk of prosecuting people for lawbreaking, now that's "Demn propaganda"? republicans now support lawbreaking? Or is lawbreaking OK if you're White and bad if you're Black? Is that it?

Anonymous said...

\\There was nothing to translate. I didn't write anything in NewSpeak.

Yeah.

Just another NewSpeak lie.

Yawn.



\\You're the cretin. Proven by you asking me to "stop" something I never started.

Yeah.

Just another NewSpeak lie.

Yawn.



\\Not because I agree with Putin. Which is what you imply. To show that YOUR WORDS mirror Putin's.

Yeah.

Just another NewSpeak lie.

Yawn.



\\Now YOU ARE quoting Putin. Putin's EXACT words are a part of your reply. Which you did to promote your master. Yes?

Yeah.

Just another NewSpeak lie.

Yawn.



\\No. it is a Fact. Proven by Azov battalion members telling reporters "Yes, I am a Nazi".

In English? ;-P

Into YOUR ear? :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Do you even aware -- that in foreign languages even SIMILARLY sounding words -- how OTHER, sometimes even directly OPPOSITE meanings? ;-P


What is a word that sounds similar but have opposite meanings?
contronym
A contronym is a word that is spelled the same and pronounced the same. Yet, they have opposite meanings.

Grammar 101: What is a Contronym? | IELTS Australia

ENLIGHTEN itself. ;-P

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_friend

In linguistics, a false friend is a word in a different language that looks or sounds similar to a word in a given language, but differs significantly in meaning. Examples of false friends include English embarrassed and Spanish embarazada 'pregnant'; English parents versus Portuguese parentes and Italian parenti (both meaning 'relatives'); English demand and French demander 'ask'; and English gift, German Gift 'poison', and Norwegian gift 'married'.



\\Qtard: On equating similarity of word "nationalist" and "nazi".

\\Your fact free speculation.

Do you know some OTHER language??? Apart from English? ;-P



\\Qtard: Based on DEMN lies... that nazis are bad because they "nationalists"... and not because they are national-SOCIALISTS.

\\Because they are fascists, not socialists.

And "fascists" are... surprise-surprise... is a socialistic movement started by

Is Mussolini a socialist?
Though he denounced orthodox socialism and class conflict, he maintained at the time that he was a nationalist socialist and a supporter of the legacy of nationalist socialists in Italy's history, such as Giuseppe Garibaldi, Giuseppe Mazzini, and Carlo Pisacane.

Benito Mussolini - Wikipedia
wikipedia.org
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Benito_Mussolini



\\That wasn't the situation re the rioters fighting with police and vandalizing the Capitol.

Yeah.

That's what ALL totalitarians say...


Anonymous said...


\\Like on FACTUAL similarity of words "nationalist" and "nazi" -- they both start from "N" -- ain't that FACT???!!!!

\\No. That this is what happened (this word confusion) isn't something you provided any facts to back up.

Hah???

Like it need... like there CAN BE something MORE to "back up" that OBVIOUS FACT that words "Nationalist" and "Nazi" starts from "N".

Well... you have National guard in USA... does it mean that are NAZI guard????



\\But you gave ZERO evidence that happened.

LACK of any FACTUAL confirmation (like vid or audio) in that lying CNN reporter -- is NOT a fact???? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Yeah... for you cretin -- it not. Cause you DO NOT believe FACTS you DoN'T LIKE.



\\Qtard: And you'd know it... if you'd not be cretin.

\\I don't know it. How can anything for which no facts are presented be "known"?

Yeah.

Cause you willfully blind to it. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0



\\Factual in reality.

If it'll be -- you'd be able to point at FACTs.

But... you NEVER are.

Yawn. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0



\\Self encouragement.

Your other alter-ego "Self"? ;-P




\\Qtard: \\Which CONTRADICTS your (many times stated) assertion that there are zero Nazis in Ukraine\\ Of course. Because nazis it's followers of National-SOCIALISM in Germany.

\\No.

NewSpeak "Yes"? ;-P



\\And different people said, "I am a Nazi".

And different people saying: "I'm elf", "I'm devil", "I'm alien" and etc-etc-etc. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Like in time of Hellowin for example. ;-P



\\But I'm not talking about those people. I'm talking about different people. Self identifying as Nazi.

Yeah. DEMN/liliPut's propaganda.

And what? Americans never saying "our NATION is great"???



\\No. I never defended the J6 lawbreakers by saying they were "going by streets". That was YOU. You don't remember??

That... that was just a BARE OBVIOUS fact -- people was going by the streets...

what else they was doing??? Flying??? :-)))))))))))))))))))00

Since when it forbiden to state facts???

Ah... yes, of course, it's "forbiden" for such a NewSpeak liars like you -- because EVERY TIME someone start stating facts -- you lies became trasparently visible as miserable cretinic lies. ;-p

That's why you SO ALLERGIC to any facts. Calling em "delusions". And etc. ;-P




\\republicans say they are the "law and order" party. So, talk of prosecuting people for lawbreaking, now that's "Demn propaganda"? republicans now support lawbreaking? Or is lawbreaking OK if you're White and bad if you're Black? Is that it?

Blah-blah-blah... DEMN propaganda. ;-P