Wednesday, January 15, 2025

Trump: The Ultimate Troll's Troll


A MASTER of creating and exploiting a Reflexive Environment...
A reflexive environment is one where everybody has to talk about a certain thing. That thing is going to be very polarizing, and there are either going to be one, or two, right ways to talk about it. Usually they're going to be diametrically opposed to one another, and that means it's a dialectical weapon.
 
When George Soros famously shorted the the pound sterling in like '92 or whatever, which led to him writing "The Alchemy of Finance" where he said that "Alchemy is not interested in truth like the scientific method, it's interested in operational success." The method he said that they used to do the Alchemy of Finance was reflexivity. The idea is that you start jinning up an idea and make the idea become true because everybody starts talking about it and believing it in a particular way. So "the current thing" takes place in a reflexive environment (often Social Media).

On praising your negotiation "adversaries" (like Kim Jong Il) once an offer has been made: 

h/t - Woodsterman

46 comments:

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

The "modelthinkers" image is BS. I have no integrity unless I change my mind and agree with you? What if I say it's the other way around and that YOU have no integrity unless you listen to my factual arguments and change YOUR mind?

Though apparently they think people should be changing their minds due to the presence of a "permission structure" and that a sound argument supported by facts is unnecessary. Such arguments are "pointless". That's definitely what you think. Proven by your labeling of the disinformation cesspool Twit-Turd a "permission structure".

Joe Conservative said...

Funny, the model is exactly how white guilt-pride thing works. You do something stupid because it makes you feel good about yourself... and everyone else around you affirms it. The "permission structure" has been built.

Joe Conservative said...

Your so proud that you're morally superior enough to denounce your entire culture... yep, dumb!

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minus: Funny, the model is exactly how white guilt-pride thing works.

It doesn't work because it is imaginary.

Minus: You do something stupid because it makes you feel good about yourself...

I don't.

Minus: and everyone else around you affirms it. The "permission structure" has been built.

They don't. Because I don't intentionally do stupid things. I don't do anything stupid within the context of "White Guilt Pride" at all. Because "white guilt pride" is imaginary.

FYI, the role of a president is to lead with integrity, diplomacy, and respect for both domestic and international relations. Trolling behavior undermines these qualities and creates unnecessary tensions. That you think this is a POSITIVE quality for a president to have is proof that you're the one who likes stupid things being done.

d0n0ld tRump does something stupid because it makes you feel good about yourself... and everyone else around you affirms it. The "permission structure" has been built.

Patrick said...

I'm going to mention some major issues facing our country and ask whether you believe the United States has made progress, stood still or lost ground in each during the last four years, since Joe Biden became president. ’ll give you MY Opinion right off the Bat!
I personally think that Not Only did the USA loose ground but the lost ground was on MAJOR ISSUES!
Lets face the facts, the U.S.A. has lost ground in six Major areas over the past four years that Joe Biden “Acted” as our President. And they including the Federal Debt , Legal Immigration, the gap between the Wealthy and less Well-off , the Economy , the United States’ position in the world and in Serious Crime. And we can add Race relations to that long list as well. Pluralities also say the nation has fallen behind in six other areas: Education, Terrorism, Trade Relations with other Countries, Race Relations, the Nation’s Infrastructure and Energy.

In fact more Americans believe the country has stood still on two issues -- the Economy and the situation for Black People -- than think it has also lost ground on Healthcare, National Defense and the Military, and Taxes, with relatively few seeing any progress in any of these areas.

And as for the Presidential Transition after Biden’s Worthless, and Inept Candidate Vice President, Kamala Harris, Lost the Election to Donald Trump., where is the “Peaceful Transition”? This team, this worthless Team has given NO Unity, and Nothing Peaceful to this country whatsoever!
This Country under the Biden Leadership no made any improvement during Biden’s presidency are the Nation’s Infrastructure, Trade Relations with Other Countries, the Economy, National Defense and the Military, the United States’ position in the world, Terrorism, Crime, Healthcare, Education, and or Race Relations. The only thing that this administration seemed to care about was the Situation for LGBTQ People, and “Climate Controls” Like telling us that we should not, and can not use anymore Plastic Straws,. Under Biden, Democrats has lost more ground than it has gained on the Federal Debt. And listening to that Moronic speech last night, you would think that we were losing a Genius of a President, instead of the Demented Sicko that we are FINALLY GETTING RID OF.

Salvatore said...


So Donald Trump is “A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY” and NO BODY can't even tell me WHY? . Thank you as that's all I needed to know
Donald Trump “Never” received a fair trial and has been more recently been made an official convicted felon. No time in jail, no fines, no community service, he's just a convicted felon because the democrats say so. So how does that make him a threat to democracy?
So, I'm just going to kick back & enjoying watching Donald Trump’s Inauguration on Monday, and watch the Democrats, and Progressive’s melt down!
Isn't it Funny, Donald Trump is a Threat to Democracy, and Biden Gives The Medal of Freedom to George Soros!
SO! I guess that he’s a threat to democracy and you can't even tell me why. Thank you as that's all I needed to know

Joe Conservative said...

It doesn't work because it is imaginary.

Everything in your mind is imaginary, Derv... even the "repressive" thought formation elements associated with guilt-pride. It makes you, like Oedipus, "blind" to it. It's an Oedipal process.... now engrained.

And unlike you, I will acknowledge my own 'permission structures'.

Joe Conservative said...

Trump can't turn it around in four years. We're dealing with a problem 60 years in the making.

Joe Conservative said...

Trump's a threat to The National Endowment for Democracy (NED), the IRI and the NDI... all CIA cutouts operating under the rubric of "promoting Democracy" for large global corporations and opening new markets for their products. THAT is why they hate him. He's a threat to "their" concept of Democracy (market share penetration).

Salvatore said...


Joe Biden gave a farewell Speech to America last night a few days ahead of his departure . The self-righteous highlights of what he claims is a legacy built on personal examples of leadership, strength, willpower, triumph over adversity follows .
Here are some of the other bragging issues, and the slaps on his own back
Biden’s calling himself “a kid with from modest beginnings in Scranton, Pennsylvania, and Claymont, Delaware” who rose to the highest office in the land, the Octogenarian Now Wants Americans to Build on That Example.
Let me mention some of the points, and issues that I have a BIG problem with in Joe Biden’s speech
First of all the HYPOCRISY of Hunter Biden sitting in the Oval Office during Old Dad’s farewell speech as Daddy Preached about Honesty and urged Americans to “Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes”
Yes, Biden’s Disgraced first Son Hunter Biden was seated just steps away from his father, President Biden, as the outgoing commander in chief called on Americans to respect “the courts” and “pay their fair share” of taxes during his final Oval Office address Wednesday.
Biden was very careful NOT to mention Afghanistan, given the world watched as its horrors unfolded then
Dementia ridden Joe Biden, asserted that his more than 50 years in public office has taught him that “believing the idea of America means respecting institutions that govern a free society,” including “the courts” as his recently pardoned 54-year-old son looked on.

In his farewell speech, the outgoing president also urged wealthy Americans to “play by the same rules” and “pay their fair share of taxes.”

Last September, the first son pleaded guilty to nine tax charges — including three felonies — for dodging $1.4 million in payments to the IRS while spending extravagantly on “drugs, escorts and girlfriends, luxury hotels and rental properties, exotic cars, clothing,” and other personal items.

Sonny Boy Hunter’s guilty plea in the tax case followed a separate Delaware jury trial last June, during which he was convicted on three felony charges related to a 2018 gun purchase he made while addicted to crack cocaine.
As Hunter’s sentencing dates approached, the president granted him a sweeping pardon – absolving him of any crimes committed, or possibly committed, between Jan. 1, 2014, and Dec. 1, 2024.
The REAL Reprieve part of that “Pardon” issued last December, followed nearly at least a dozen vehement denials from White House officials and from Joe Biden himself that Hunter Would Be Pardoned.
And lets talk about this outrageous part of Joe’s speech. “TODAY, AN OLIGARCHY IS TAKING SHAPE IN AMERICA of extreme wealth, power and influence that literally threatens our entire democracy, our basic rights and freedoms and a fair shot for everyone to get ahead,” Mr. Biden said.
Yes, 50 years of utter failure, ineptness and corruption is a legacy that very few can match.
It took a lot of willpower to keep going on despite constantly falling on stage, tripping over his Dog and Falling down His Airplane Steps or off His Bike.
Actually Trump has been doing both Joe's and Kamala’s job for them these past weeks. Joe needs to give Trump his last 3 paychecks.

Richard said...

The progressives are even trying to violently disrupt Marco Rubio's confirmation hearing. Sadly I can hardly remember when this was the United States of America

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Richard: The progressives are even trying to violently disrupt Marco Rubio's confirmation hearing.

They didn't.

Minus: Trump's a threat to The National Endowment for Democracy (NED), the IRI and the NDI... all CIA cutouts operating under the rubric of "promoting Democracy" for large global corporations and opening new markets for their products. THAT is why they hate Donald Trump. He's a threat to their concept of Democracy (market share penetration).

Promoting democracy is good for world peace. Corporations can sell their product in non-democracies. There were McDonald's in Russia. Your claims are BS. "They" hate him because he's a fascist that hates democracy and attempted a coup.

Joe Conservative said...

Marco should lead a CIA Team and go recover Elio Gonzales now that Cuba is no longer a terrorist nation...

Joe Conservative said...

They hate him because they've been brain damaged with white guilt-pride ideology.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

You hate d0n0ld tRump? I ask because you're the one who is brain damaged with delusions of imaginary white guilt-pride ideology.

Joe Conservative said...

An affliction that affects Germans over Nazism can't affect Southern whites over slavery? Who knew...

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minus: An affliction that affects Germans over Nazism can't affect Southern whites over slavery? Who knew...

I bet a lot of people know the imaginary "affliction" you refer to doesn't affect anyone. Only White Supremacists such as yourself consider rejecting Nazism to be an "affliction".

Rattrapper said...

Dervish is out of a job in 2 days...

Rattrapper said...

Says Dervish Sanders, the Head of the Ku Klux Klan's Henry County Tennessee chapter headquartered in Paris Tennessee on Highway 69.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

"the Ku Klux Klan's Henry County Tennessee chapter headquartered in Paris Tennessee on Highway 69" is a figment of your delusions, Mystere. I can NOT be the head of this KKK chapter because it doesn't exist. Not that I'd want to be the head of any chapter of the KKK. Unlike you, I'm strongly opposed to White Supremacy.

Joe Conservative said...

If it means being Israel Affirmative for the rest of all time, it's an affliction.

Joe Conservative said...

Are you also opposed to Black Supremacy? Enquiring minds want to know...

Joe Conservative said...

...just not as "strongly" opposed?

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minus: ...just not as "strongly" opposed?

Of course not. Why would I strongly oppose a problem that's not a problem?

Joe Conservative said...

Exactly. You do.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

I don't.

Joe Conservative said...

How many Klansmen are there in America again? 10k is a "high" estimate.

Joe Conservative said...

From Wiki:

Third Klan (1946/1950–present)
Founded in Stone Mountain, Georgia, U.S.
Members c. 5,000–8,000[17]


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Abbreviation BPP
Leader Huey P. Newton
Founded 1966; 59 years ago
Dissolved 1982; 43 years ago
Headquarters Oakland, California
Newspaper The Black Panther
Membership c. 5,000 (1969)[1]


Six of one... half dozen of another.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minus: How many Klansmen are there in America again? 10k is a "high" estimate.

Tens of millions. They don't use those terms and deny the obvious. Like you.

Joe Conservative said...

...you mean like Black Panther Party supporters (like you).

Joe Conservative said...

For you won't even denounce them. I denounce the Klan and believe all forms of racism to be idiotic. But you're just fine with "complimentary" forms of racism.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

d0n0ld also "denounced" the Klan. The Klan didn't believe his denouncement. I don't believe yours. I would support the Black Panther Party if it was still active. But it isn't.

Minus: But you're just fine with "complimentary" forms of racism.

I'm not.

Joe Conservative said...

. I would support the Black Panther Party if it was still active. But it isn't.

You just admitted it in the above comment. You're fine with racism.

Joe Conservative said...

It's only a question of the "target" to be racist against.

Joe Conservative said...

aka - white guilt-pride.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minus: You just admitted it in the above comment. You're fine with racism.

I didn't. I'm opposed to racism.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Then why would you support the BPP. It doesn't get any more racist than that.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Me: Did the original Black Panther Party say black people should hate white people?

Copilot: No, the original Black Panther Party did not advocate for Black people to hate White people. The Black Panther Party, founded in 1966 by Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale, focused on addressing systemic racism, police brutality, and social injustices faced by African Americans. They promoted self-defense and community programs, such as free breakfast for children and health clinics.

While the Black Panther Party was critical of systemic oppression and racism, they did not promote hatred towards White people. In fact, they formed alliances with various groups, including predominantly White anti-war organizations. Their goal was to fight against imperialism and promote equality and justice for all oppressed people.

Me: I didn't think so, but a blogger asked me "Then why would you support the BPP? It doesn't get any more racist than that".

Copilot: It's unfortunate that some people have misconceptions about the Black Panther Party. The BPP was focused on addressing systemic racism and social injustices, not promoting hatred. They aimed to empower African Americans and other oppressed communities through self-defense, education, and community programs.

If someone questions your support for the BPP, you can explain that their mission was about fighting for equality and justice, not about promoting racism or hatred. It's important to look at the historical context and the positive impact they had on their communities.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

So "Black Power" wasn't ever a RACIAL thing. Good to know.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

I guess black people aren't as traumatized with thoughts of racial guilt-pride like white "progressives." it's just good old fashioned "revenge" for them.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...but hey, at least they aren't losing their historical "critical consciousness"

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

You're angry that oppressed people dare fight back against their oppressors. Especially when the oppressed people have dark skin. As has been proven here (re your "guilt pride" delusions) it makes you even angrier when White people ally with their minority brothers and sisters to stand up to the oppressors.

Joe Conservative said...

I'm angry that oppressed people now demand to oppress their oppressors.

Joe Conservative said...

Instead of advocating for caritas for all.

Joe Conservative said...

Which turns out to be the real difference between a classic liberal (negative liberty) and a progressive liberal (positive liberty).

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minus: I'm angry that oppressed people now demand to oppress their oppressors.

Right. You're angry about something that isn't happening, which is very often the case.