Wednesday, January 24, 2024

A Reflexive Environment...

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

 - Upton Sinclair

18 comments:

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Upton Sinclair was a climate change denier? Who knew?

Joe Conservative said...

Nope, just not a big fan of unaccountable Government bureaucracies.

Dervish Sanders said...

Google: Sinclair was an outspoken socialist and ran unsuccessfully for Congress as a nominee from the Socialist Party. He was also the Democratic Party candidate for governor of California during the Great Depression, running under the banner of the End Poverty in California campaign...

I thought it was the Right's position was that socialism created unaccountable government bureaucracies.

You disagree?

Joe Conservative said...

The Left wants to cede their sovereignty to an unaccountable Government bureaucracy? Who knew?

Joe Conservative said...

I'm sure they'd much prefer an "accountable" one.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minus: I'm sure they'd much prefer an "accountable" one.

Sounds good to me. I'll go with that plan.

Anonymous said...

Continue-continue, cretin. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))000

Joe Conservative said...

So who's DoJ accountable to, dervy?

Anonymous said...

You don't get it.

That cretin -- are totalitarian. And TOTALLY agree with DoJ having totalitarian "accountability".

Dervish Sanders said...

I get it. The cretin also gets it. It is a Totalitarian. Why it does not want the totalitarian tRump to be held accountable. Why it wants the Putin puppet to return to power and destroy American democracy. Because the Totalitarian hates democracy and wants to see it overthrown wherever it exists. Because getting rid of democracy is a "human right" it says.

Anonymous said...

See... and what I said -- complete totalitarian cretin -- that thing is. IT. IS. ;-P

Anonymous said...

Well... when WE the People, do decide to get rid off something -- that is democracy.

As in definition.


What does democracy mean?

It's a combination of two Greek words: demos, a citizen of a city-state, and kratos, meaning 'power' or 'rule'.

Dervish Sanders said...

Qtard: See... and what I said -- complete totalitarian cretin -- that thing is. IT. IS.

Yes. I agree completely with this accurate observation you have made about yourself.

Qtard: Well... when WE the People, do decide to get rid off something -- that is democracy.

By voting. Not with violence. Unless the people don't have a democracy. But violently getting rid of democracy -- that is NOT itself democracy. It is NOT a "human right". But you think it is. Because you are an imbecile.

Anonymous said...

\\Yes. I agree completely with this accurate observation you have made about yourself.

NewSpeak substitution of "me" to "yourself".

Yawn.



\\Qtard: Well... when WE the People, do decide to get rid off something -- that is democracy.

\\By voting. Not with violence.

That's... up to that same people to decide.

Because... it's NOT possible to stop violence. To reveal some dirty tricks and mangling with voting.

With just ANOTHER voting.

That's what HISTORY lessons teach.

And that lessons is not from some ancient times -- it was shown in CNN news reports about elections cheating in other countries.

And in that reports -- that is not government cheaters was praised and embellished.

But courageous and vigilant protester AGAINST such cheating.

But.

When it comes home. Domestic voting cheaters -- DEMNs, start screaming "do not dare to prevent OUR cheating".



\\Unless the people don't have a democracy.

And there only ONE way people cannot have democracy -- EXACTLY if they STOPPED from executing their POWER.

And that what happened... on that J6.

Yawn.



\\But violently getting rid of democracy -- that is NOT itself democracy.

Yeah.

By calling it "insurrection". And putting people in jail.

That's how democracy AKA "combination of two Greek words: demos, a citizen of a city-state, and kratos, meaning 'power' or 'rule'."

Chease to exist. :-(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((



\\It is NOT a "human right".

Yeah.

Cause that is not euphemized "human right".

It is Human Rights as they IS.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Qtard: See... and what I said -- complete totalitarian cretin -- that thing is. IT. IS\\ Yes. I agree completely with this accurate observation you have made about yourself\\ NewSpeak substitution of "me" to "yourself".

No. A "complete totalitarian cretin"... that is YOU. YOU described YOURSELF. And I'm not writing "you" but meaning "me/I/myself". I mean YOU, the complete totalitarian cretin foreigner from far far away.

Qtard: Well... when WE the People, do decide to get rid off something -- that is democracy\\ By voting. Not with violence\\ That's... up to that same people to decide.

That same people (the voters) decided there was no cheating and no reason to protest the election results with violence. Like Biden voters. They didn't want to see the election they had just voted in overturned. And around 30 percent of republicans who voted for donald tRump also agreed (and continue to agree) that Biden was the legitimate winner.

The minority of US voters who were fooled by dotard donald's "stop the steal" lies (and traveled to DC on 1/6/2021) did NOT have the "right" to try and overthrown the results to keep dotard donald in power. It is NOT a "human right" to use FALSE claims of cheating to overturn the results of a democratic election.

Qtard: Because... it's NOT possible to stop violence.

It is possible to arrest those who commit violence. Or to kill them. As has happened in the past. Here in the United States when traitors tried to rebel against American democracy.

Qtard: To reveal some dirty tricks and mangling with voting.

None was revealed because it didn't happen. Well, not on a scale that would have swung the election to tRump. There was some mangling with voting... committed by dotard donald. Like his instructing the post master general to slow down the USPS so mail-in ballots would arrive late. And the usual republican disenfranchisement of people legitimately entitled to vote.

Qtard: With just ANOTHER voting.

Right, no "another voting" was needed. Because we know who won. The legitimate winner was Joe Biden. donald tRump went to court alleging cheating but was unable to show any and his cases were thrown out.

Qtard: That's what HISTORY lessons teach.

Yeah, when corrupt governments are ushered out with protests and violence. Like when Ukrainians protested their Putin puppet and he fled and was replaced. But Qtard wants Putin's puppet dotard donald re-installed in the US presidency. Why it's claim that it supports Ukraine rings false.

More evidence that Qtard is a totalitarian Putin lover are it's claims that it is Democrats who are calling Ukrainians Nazis and trying to defund any US help to Ukraine's effort to repel the Russian invasion of their country. When it is repubiturds who are blocking aid to Ukraine. But the imbecile is fooled by "plan for victory in Ukraine" that republicans will NOT write up as legislation and bring to the House floor for a vote. Because the plan is FAKE.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

(continued)

While President Biden (who can't use lend-lease any longer because it expired) is getting help to Ukraine using ring-trade.

A ring-trade is, in essence, a circular swap. One country pays or arms a second country so the second country can arm a third country. ... Biden and Blinken are using the White House's broad non-legislative military-aid authority to arm countries that aren't Ukraine, so they in turn can arm Ukraine.

And WHY would the Biden administration be doing this, if the "plan" was to defund Ukrainian aid and blame republicans? Wouldn't Biden be saying now -- as per Qtard's conspiracy theory (which it says it "knows" is true) -- "sorry, but we can't help Ukraine because republicans are blocking it" (then laughing evilly)?

Instead the Biden administration is finding ways to send aid -- in spite of republican obstruction and republican attempts to hand Ukraine over to Putin. Because republicans are Putin's puppets.

Qtard: And that lessons is not from some ancient times -- it was shown in CNN news reports about elections cheating in other countries.

YES. It has happened in other countries. It ALMOST happened here. dotard donald and his co-conspirators and minions TRIED to steal the 2020 election. If Mike Pence had gone along with the plan (or fled and Chuck Grassley took his place) they could have succeeded and installed donald as "president for life".

Qtard: And in that reports -- that is not government cheaters was praised and embellished. But courageous and vigilant protester AGAINST such cheating.

Fake cheating. As was the case re "stop the steal" and the J6 insurrection.

Qtard: When it comes home. Domestic voting cheaters -- DEMNs, start screaming "do not dare to prevent OUR cheating".

Domestic voting cheaters -- republiturds, start screaming "do not dare to prevent OUR cheating". And (alleged) foreigner Qtard joins in. Praises the republiturd cheating. Says cheating is their "human right".

While Dems are insisting that elections MUST be held fairly. And Dems are screaming about republiturd cheating.

Qtard: And there only ONE way people cannot have democracy -- EXACTLY if they STOPPED from executing their POWER.

Which is what dotard donald and his magaturds tried to do -- attempt to overthrow democracy. Which Qtard supports and praises.

Qtard: And that what happened... on that J6.

No. J6 was an attempt to KILL democracy in the United States. But Qtard lies about it. Says they were trying to "save" it. The far far away foreigner believes (or pretends to believe) FALSE allegations that it was Democrats that cheated.

Qtard: \\But violently getting rid of democracy -- that is NOT itself democracy\\ By calling it "insurrection". And putting people in jail.

Who was put in jail? YOU said so nobody was. I said it was proven in court (and J6 rioters were convicted) but YOU said NO because there was no evidence.

Quote: But... was NOT ABLE to prove ANY of such claims in courts. ... Provide a link, and make a quote -- where, what judge have did it.

Those are YOUR imbecilic words. That no "ANY such claims" were proven in court. And YOU demanded a link showing it was (thinking I could not give one). Yet (in this discussion) you say people were put in jail and NOT set free because they went "by the street" and entered a public building (and therefore did nothing wrong).

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

(continued)

So which is it? Were people put in jail for what they did on J6 (because they violated laws) or were they set free because there was no evidence of any law violations? Dummy is claiming they were put in jail with no evidence of any violations of the law?

Qtard: That's how democracy AKA "combination of two Greek words: demos, a citizen of a city-state, and kratos, meaning 'power' or 'rule'." Chease to exist. :-(((((((((((((((((

Yeah. What YOU want for the USA -- for USA democracy to "chease to exist". Why YOU wrote a smiley face (though in NewSpeak as a frowny face).

Qtard: \\It is NOT a "human right"\\ Yeah. Cause that is not euphemized "human right". It is Human Rights as they IS.

It ISN'T. Except to a totalitarian like you. To a totalitarian NewSpeaker like you overthrowing democracy is a "human right as they is".

Anonymous said...

\\No. A "complete totalitarian cretin"... that is YOU. YOU described YOURSELF. And I'm not writing "you" but meaning "me/I/myself". I mean YOU, the complete totalitarian cretin foreigner from far far away.

Empty babbling of lying totalitarian cretin.

Yawn.

We all should believe to mere words of IT.

Ahh... no.

We do not. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))