Friday, October 17, 2025

Democrats Call Them "The Good Guys"....

 

h/t - Woodsterman

77 comments:

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Via Copilot...

...there is no evidence that any Democratic elected officials have explicitly described Hamas as “the good guys.” While some Democrats have expressed nuanced or critical views on the Israel-Hamas conflict, none have publicly endorsed Hamas in such terms.

What the record shows:

- 🗣️ Democratic praise for peace deals: Some Democrats have praised ceasefire agreements involving Hamas, especially those that led to the release of hostages. However, this praise has focused on diplomacy and humanitarian outcomes—not on Hamas itself. In fact, many Democrats have deliberately avoided naming Hamas when discussing these deals.

- 🧾 Condemnation votes: In November 2023, 22 House Democrats voted against a resolution condemning support for Hamas and Hezbollah on college campuses. Their opposition was largely framed around concerns about free speech and the resolution’s wording—not support for Hamas.

- 🔥 Right-wing framing: Republican figures and conservative media have accused Democrats of being soft on Hamas or sympathetic to its supporters. For example, Trump’s press secretary Karoline Leavitt claimed that Democratic constituents include “Hamas terrorists,” but this was a partisan attack, not a reflection of Democratic statements.

- 🧩 Complex party dynamics: Some progressive Democrats have expressed solidarity with Palestinians or criticized Israeli military actions. These statements have sometimes been misinterpreted or reframed as support for Hamas, but they typically focus on human rights and civilian suffering, not endorsement of militant groups.

In short, the blog title you mentioned appears to be a provocative or adversarial misreading rather than a reflection of actual Democratic rhetoric.

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Steve said...

It’s happening again. The so-called “party of fiscal responsibility” is standing at the edge of yet another cave-in—this time over extending Obamacare subsidies that Democrats want to expand even further, potentially to include healthcare for illegal immigrants. After years of railing against the Affordable Care Act’s failures, the GOP may now help keep the program alive.

Let’s be crystal clear: Obamacare was NEVER, EVER, affordable. Even The Washington Post admitted that “the real problem is that the Affordable Care Act was never actually affordable.” Premiums skyrocketed because the risk pools were smaller than expected, and taxpayers have been footing the bill ever since. Yet instead of dismantling this fiscal disaster, Democrats doubled down—funneling billions in subsidies through the American Rescue Plan and Inflation Reduction Act, both passed without a single Republican vote.

Steve said...

Make no mistake about it ......
With Schumer's, Shutdown the government officially shut down, let’s be clear about one thing: Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House. This is THEIR shutdown.

They have every tool to govern. Instead, they chose chaos. And now the American people are the ones paying the price.

Thousands of government workers are going without pay. Families are seeing their benefits delayed. Small businesses cannot access the loans they depend on, But the Democrats are such good guys!

Oswald said...

So, today is another protest day for the moronic Democrats, it’s another “No Kings Day” and so my town looks calm and peaceful .
So far my local TV news shows about 10 people standing on a corner with signs. yawn. They are all anti- Republican hate signs!
The Democrats' "Hate Democracy" the Democrats' hate Republicans because they lost. But Trump is kicking their ass. Trump is reversing the Biden disaster. Democrats are now forced to face the failure of their beliefs. They lack the maturity to do that. so they create an issue that doesn't exist. No kings day. Its really we hate Trump for proving us wrong day. So all the fat blue haired women with their dumb signs will be out there chanting nonsense. If ANTIFA or violent agitators join in it will be on them. is reversing the Biden disaster. Democrats are now forced to face the failure of their beliefs. They lack the maturity to do that. so they create an issue that doesn't exist. No kings day. Its really we hate Trump for proving us wrong day. Lets not forget that Trump did something that NO other American President had eve done before. So all the fat blue haired women with their dumb signs will be out there chanting nonsense, and singing stupid songs written by Hakeem Hakeem Jeffries !. If ANTIFA or violent agitators join in it will be on the Democrats!

Les Carpenter said...

The shutdown is the RESULT and RESPONSIBILITY of the fascist Amerilan rRumpilublican party of greed and hate.

And for the record... Hamas on Oct. 7, 2023 committed an atrocious and inhuman act. Killing 1200 innocent Jewish people and taking 250 or so hostages. An act that required a response. An Appropriate Response,. Not the genocide and almost total destruction of the Gaza Strip.

Democrats, liberals, and progressives denounce both Hama's action AND the Zionist genocide of over 60,000 completely innocent Palestiians. Over 50% which were children.

The truth is BOTH acts were and are EVIL to the core. Bur the Zionist genocide, under the butcher Bibi Netanyahu, was the greatest evil of the two. 60,000 plus innocent death and almost total destruction of Palestinian homes and lives. -vs- 120o innocent death and 250 hostages.

Hamas and the Palestinians have been oppressed since the Zionists from Europe went to their stolen land in the ME. Land taken from Palestinians.

Palestinians deserve a homeland, complete autonomy, freedom from Zionist oppression, and the liberty to live their lives out in peace and harmony. Free from Zionist hate.

Joe Conservative said...

22 Democrats directly supported Hamas and Hezbollah. The title is spot on. How many Republicans did? 1. Thomas Massie. His reason according to Google AI, "Massie did not support the resolution because he opposes resolutions that he views as entangling the U.S. in foreign conflicts or infringing upon free speech. "

Joe Conservative said...

Sounds like a "Federalist/ Libertarian" principle (against foreign entanglements), not support for Hamas/ Hezbollah.

Joe Conservative said...

AoC and the Squad are the "new face of the Democratic Party". They all refused to condemn Hamas and Hezbollah.

Joe Conservative said...

Their Post-Colonial "guilt pride" is too deeply engrained.

Dave Dubya said...

"AoC and the Squad are the "new face of the Democratic Party". They all refused to condemn Hamas and Hezbollah."

BAD ex-midshipman!!

He LIED when he swore under oath to tell the truth. And he just LIED like every neo-Nazi racist would about AOC.

What part of AOC's condemnation can't his racist and fascist eyes see?

“I condemn Hamas’s attack in the strongest possible terms."

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Yet the Squad would NOT condemn Hamas and Hezbollah for the ATTACK... *tsk-tsk*

...and it's definitely the Schumer Shutdown, so keep on spinnin' it 'til you're winnin' it!

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

And no, Israel is conducting an ethnic cleansing, not a genocide. The hyperbole is unnecessary and detracts from horrific reality of ethnic cleansing.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

The "strongest possible terms" are less than a non-binding House Resolution? Wow! The bar is so low that the Squad is tripping over it.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Acta non Verba! THAT is the Midshipman Motto.

GOOD Midshipman, I know! :)

The United States Merchant Marine Academy is a federal service academy that educates and graduates leaders of exemplary character who are committed to serve the national security, marine transportation, and economic needs of the United States as licensed Merchant Marine Officers and commissioned officers in the Armed Forces. With 95 percent of the world's products transported over water, these leaders are vital to the effective operation of our merchant fleet for both commercial and military transport in peace and war. Academy graduates abide by the motto: “Acta Non Verba," or "Deeds Not Words," and are leaders that exemplify the concept of service-above-self.

Dave Dubya said...

Fascist with no honor: They all refused to condemn Hamas and Hezbollah.

Woman of honor: “I condemn Hamas’s attack in the strongest possible terms."

Fascist with no honor: The "strongest possible terms" are less than a non-binding House Resolution? Wow! The bar is so low that the Squad is tripping over it.

Talk about a low bar...

Dave Dubya said...

Midshipman's motto?
Well that's entirely different from the midshipman's oath:
HAVING BEEN APPOINTED A MIDSHIPMAN IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY, I
SOLEMNLY SWEAR (OR AFFIRM) THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE
CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND
DOMESTIC; THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE SAME;
THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY, WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION
OR PURPOSE OF EVASION; AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE
THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE ON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER, SO HELP ME GOD.

Voting for a criminal insurrectionist and LYING on his behalf clearly BETRAYS such an oath.

Les Carpenter said...

I understand it is ethnic cleansing. A nicer word usage than genocide or Mass murder.

However, I'll continue to use both. Because the Zionist butcher boy Netanyahu and his Zionist butchering IDF would have continued killing innocent Palestinians indiscriminately out of their deep hate.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minus: 22 Democrats directly supported Hamas and Hezbollah.

Zero Democrats directly supported Hamas and Hezbollah. The college protests concerned NuttenYahoo's genocide of the Palestinian people and Democrat's opposition to genocide and support for free speech.

You grossly mischaracterize Democrat's moral and principaled stand. Opposing genocide and supporting free speech is NOT "direct support" for Hamas or Hezbollah.

You say so because you are pro mass murder and opposed to free speech 👎

Minus: AoC and the Squad are the "new face of the Democratic Party". They all refused to condemn Hamas and Hezbollah.

🐂💩 What you describe never happened.

Les Carpenter said...

The Orange Fuhrer demands unbridled fealty to the un-American banana republic he is creating. MAGAts are only too willing to line up for the scraps their Fuhrer and the Amerikan oligarch class allows them.

Joe Conservative said...

Has the President been impeached and removed from office? lol!

Joe Conservative said...

A message for Nancy Pelosi: "Ding, dong the witch is dead!"

Joe Conservative said...

Women of honour, but no credibility... "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be Jew free".

Les Carpenter said...

Only until the soon to come 2'nd American revolution against the tyranny of facism and the Orange Fuhrer.

And BTW, Representative and Former True Speaker of the House Pelosi is FAR from a wicked witch>/b>. But Bondi and Leavitt certainly fill that bill!

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Hamas is on the verge of winning? Not now and likely never. Though NuttenYahoo did motivate many to join Hamas in the future. Motivated by revenge for the innocent relatives he slaughtered.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Impeachment has never and will never remove a president from office. Nixon would have been removed, which is why he resigned. Today's congressional rightturds are too cowed to vote to impeach. And they are all down with ending democracy.

Anonymous said...

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders HAS AN EXTREMELY WEIRD IMAGINATION. But, I'm supervised that he can't see that Pelosi is a Wicked Witch

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

So what were all those Palestinian flags doing at yesterday's "No Kings" festivities? Didn't see many Israeli ones.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Not nicer. More accurate. The IDF built no crematoriums in Gaza.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

I thought that the IDF's motive was revenge for Oct 7 and return of the hostages.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

But hey, the Democrats were fine with Clinton's Impeachment, right?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Oh please, you mean the soon to come Neoracist National Socialism the Democrats are attempting to foist on America. Ban the whites, ban the whites! Hitler copied the Democrats, and now the Democrats are copying Hitler.

Power to the People!

Dave Dubya said...

Poor -FJ!
He's feeling mighty defensive for some reason.

Could it be all the neo-Nazi Republicans coming out of the woodwork triggering his frantic deflection and projection?

If he want's to point out that WHITE SOUTHEN CONSERVATIVE Democrats inspired Hitler, I'd agree. But for some reason he can't remember Hitler was also inspired by REPUBLICANS sending the Cavalry to slaughter native women and children and herding them like cattle onto reservations.

Yes. Hitler was deeply impressed by how American Republican presidents massacred and starved Native Americans.

While -FJ's frenzied projection can be found amusing, his racist neo-Nazi "great replacement" phobia and panic reveal his deep-seated racism.

I like to say racism isn't racism to racists, and that's largely true with the poorly educated, but in -FJ's case he relishes and embraces it.

I bet he really admires Stephen Miller.

Dave Dubya said...

Palestinian Americans have no voice in MAGA America. Their flags tell us they have as much reason to protest King Bibi and King Trump as we do. They're two neo-Nazi, criminal tyrants in a pod.

Israel has AIPAC to buy our politicians and interfere in our elections. They've essentially planted their flag in our government.

Joe Conservative said...

LOL! Andrew Jackson, the first elected Democrat, created the Indian Removal Act of 1830... which began the ethnic cleansing of Indians from American territories. He was LITERALLY the Indian Hitler. The first of many ethnic cleansings and exterminations begun by the Democratic Party. Now, they've finally come for the whites...

Joe Conservative said...

The Pseudostinian project of ethnically cleansing the Middle East of all Jews has failed. So now they're being ethnically cleansed from Israel.

And Pseudostinians have a much greater voice in America than they do in Gaza. Dissent there, as proven recently, means a bullet to the head.

Dave Dubya said...

There he goes again. In his racist frenzy the fascist STILL can't blame a single Republican for abuse of Native Americans. He refuses to admit CONSERVATIVE Southern racists were slavers.

(And note how he cites the "Indian Hitler", the only Democrat Trump admires.)

His racist paranoia has really wigged him out. Maybe he should check under his bed for a "racist Black terrorist" out to replace him tonight.

Dave Dubya said...

As expected, Trump's gloating about a "peace deal" only means he FAILED again.

Israel strikes Gaza as both Israel and Hamas accuse each other of breaching ceasefire
https://www.npr.org/2025/10/19/nx-s1-5579554/israel-and-hamas-accuse-each-other-of-breaching-fragile-ceasefire-in-gaza

Dave Dubya said...

Nothing autocratic about this, amirite?

FIRED DOJ LAWYER: “I responded up the chain of command - that’s a lie. I cannot sign my name to that.”

Erez Reuveni says he was fired by Trump’s DOJ "good guys" for refusing to lie that KILMAR ABREGO GARCIA was a terrorist & gang member.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

NuttenYahoo's primary motivation was to distract from his corruption trial. He was willing to sacrifice the lives of the hostages for that reason. Also to deny Biden a win, betting that his fellow corrupt rightturd donald would return to the presidency.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Bill Clinton didn't do something that warrented impeachment.

Dave Dubya said...

Trump reneges on his offer of tomahawk missiles to Ukraine after talking with Putin.

He suggests Ukraine surrender land stolen by Putin.

What "Russia hoax" was that again?

Dutch intelligence suspends sharing arrangements with the US after concluding that high level intel was routinely being shared by the White House with their friends in the Kremlin.
https://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/nederlandse-diensten-delen-minder-informatie-met-de-vs-soms-vertellen-we-dingen-niet-meer~b4882f19/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.bsky.app%2F

Les Carpenter said...

Irredeemable Deplorables, just like ole HRC identified Dave. And so they remain today.

Joe Conservative said...

Yeah, Oct 7 was a false flag to Netanyahu in power... @@

Joe Conservative said...

...and you refuse to admit conservative SOUTHERN RACISTS were DEMOCRATS!

Joe Conservative said...

The so-called "Maryland man"? MS-13 is a terrorist organization, hadn't you heard? You'd prefer he were sent to Gitmo?

Joe Conservative said...

You really think Ukrainians can program and maintain Tomahawks and their Typhon targeting/launch packages? Zelinsky met with Raytheon and Lockheed-Martin people.

btw - TLAM-N's are nuclear weapons. You REALLY think that Russia will be distinguish the nuclear from the conventional variant while it's en-route? They're likely to take any Tomahawk launch as a nuclear attack on the Russia homeland.

Joe Conservative said...

ps- I'm very familiar with all the MK-41 VLS missile variants (tomahawk, SM-2/4, ASROC, NATO SeaSparrow) I used to deliver the launchers to the shipyards for installation.

Dave Dubya said...

Ukraine had nukes before foolishly surrendering them and trusting Russia to keep out.
NEVER take Trump or Putin's word on anything.
Putin is just a smarter version of Trump.
Imagine how thrilled Putin is with Trump wanting military occupation of American cities.

Portland's "burning down war zone":

From the dissent on Portland National Guard Deployment

In two the two weeks leading up to the President’s September 27 social media post, there had not been a single incident of protesters’ disrupting the execution of laws.
Here are the summaries from police reports for the five days preceding the President’s social media post.

September 22: Approx. 7-10 people. No calls.
September 23: Few people. No activity.
September 24: Approx. 10 people. No calls.
September 25: Approx, 20 people. No calls.
September 26: Approx. 15 people. Energy low, minimal activity. No incidents.

A police officer’s report from September 26 stated: “Throughout the day we
Observed approximately 8-15 people at any given time out front of ICE. Mostly
Sitting in lawn chairs and walking around.”
===
No Guard needed.
Trump is a dictator who wants to suppress free speech and elections.

Les Carpenter said...

Read below. I have no response. Have stopped wasting my time.

Anonymous said...


Netanyahu’s address to the Israeli Knesset on Trump’s historic Middle East peace deal was one of the very best speeches I’ve heard in my lifetime
I Guess that he’s a Fan of Kings

Joe Conservative said...

He didn't abuse his government office and position to seduce interns? Would you get fired for that?

Joe Conservative said...

The Portland Police no longer enforce the law in Portland. That's reason enough (statutorially) to send in the Guard.

Les Carpenter said...

Bullshit.

Joe Conservative said...

A reporter was assaulted outside the ICE facility in front of Portland Police. They arrested the Reporter. QED.

Joe Conservative said...

Says the party of centralized (urban) authority and therefore king-makers

Joe Conservative said...

ps - It's why you're losing. Just ask Ezra...

Joe Conservative said...

You demand ideological purity. You're intolerant of dissenting opinion. You're Neoracist bigots.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

That's what you believe? I meant his response. Though he did give Hamas lots of money. You might be on to something...

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

No, he didn't. Monica Lewinsky, by her own admission, did the seducing. He should have refused, but not refusing isn't "seducing". To you a consensual affair between adults is worse than the non consensual sexual assaulting and raping perpetrated by the fat orange Turd @@

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minus: ...the soon to come Neoracist National Socialism the Democrats are attempting to foist on America.

This is one of your White Supremacist delusions.

Les Carpenter said...

Love your fairy tale interpretations of most things.

BTW, when legend becomes fact, believe the legend

Joe Conservative said...

LOL! Ken Starr should have prosecuted post-Impeachment.

Joe Conservative said...

You're the advocating the US Government implement a racial spoils system, not me.

Joe Conservative said...

He gave Hezbollah a lot of cheap phones, too!

Joe Conservative said...

Hypernormalisation. Yep, that's how it works. Internet, home of the Hyper-Real.

Joe Conservative said...

Just keep smiling! Everything's fine...

Joe Conservative said...

...the neoliberal transition to technofeudalism is working perfectly, cloud serfs!

Les Carpenter said...

Build you supporting confirmation bias rhetoric. Intelligent people simply ignore it.

Joe Conservative said...

That's why they're cloud serfs.

Les Carpenter said...

You'd know. Ait your experience being one.

Anonymous said...

Non sequitur deflection.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

For what reason?

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

I am not. You are. Jobs predominantly for White males.

Joe Conservative said...

As supporting facts not introduced into evidence (w/links)

Joe Conservative said...

As a lawyer who lied under oath, like Tish.

Joe Conservative said...

Indeed. But as a retired serf I can safely state, "I've got mine!" :)

Joe Conservative said...

Nope. Jobs require qualifications. And if white males are more qualified, so be it. Race is NOT a qualification for anything other than group membership into racist organizations like the Black Panthers or KKK (all DNC affiliates).