Claim: Russia and Ukraine reached a preliminary agreement during the early phase of the war — "Both sides very much wanted a ceasefire -- but the US blocked it".
Verdict: False.
Explanation: An early agreement was reached that called for Russian troops to withdraw to Feb 23 positions -- and in return Ukraine would never join NATO. Russian troops never met these commitments.
...it wasn't the United States or Western countries or NATO that ended any peace talks, such as they were. Rather, it was, first and foremost, Russia's bloody escalation of the violence.
Can idiots suffer from Gell-Mann amnesia at all??? :-))))))))))))))))
\\...it wasn't the United States or Western countries or NATO that ended any peace talks, such as they were. Rather, it was, first and foremost, Russia's bloody escalation of the violence.
No. Bloody attrocities being revealed...
\\No. I have heard elsewhere that is what happened.
Yep.
You "heard" some rumors... richly spiced, or even totally cocked up by propaganda.
But you habitually "believe" em being facts.
Miuserly idiot, idiotic understanding of Reality. ;-P
Didn't hear ANY rumors. My comment does not contain the word "rumors". I was referring to other news reports. Other news articles. NOT Putin propaganda. Which (looks like to me) Qtard is defending. Because it says facts refuting Putin's propaganda are "totally cocked up by propaganda".
Qtard: ... richly spiced, or even totally cocked up by propaganda. But you habitually "believe" em being facts.
Qtard thinks "Bloody attrocities being revealed" is significantly different than "bloody escalation of the violence" because... it is an idiot.
Minus: DNC Talking Points Memo's never lie, Q.
So, "Bloody attrocities being revealed" is not a "talking point"? It is truthful description of what happened? Why? Because "atrocities" is misspelled? "Attrocities" with two Ts means withdrawing in anticipation of a peace agreement being reached?
Aaron Maté (from video): ...maybe one day we'll get CNN to report that there was a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia that was tentatively reached in April 2022 but the West blocked it.
No. Because CNN doesn't report Putin puppet lies.
Putin puppet Aaron Mate says the West rejected the peace agreement, but that is FALSE. Putin rejected the peace deal.
Reuters: Vladimir Putin's chief envoy on Ukraine told the Russian leader as the war began that he had struck a provisional deal with Kyiv that would satisfy Russia's demand that Ukraine stay out of NATO, but Putin rejected it and pressed ahead with his military campaign, according to three people close to the Russian leadership. [9/14/2022].
Going to defend Putin again, Qtard? Call the Reuters reporting "Demn propaganda"? "Three people close to the Russian leadership" are somebodys who said "something-something"?
Maybe Qtard will insist that Putin is a good guy who would never reject a peace deal? Because "unhuman scumbag" Qtard secretly admires Putin, yes?
\\Didn't hear ANY rumors. My comment does not contain the word "rumors". I was referring to other news reports.
"news reports" that IS rumors... especially if they deseminated through social networks... or given through some shitty "news agregator" sites.
Well... even if they are under famous in previous times brands. Like CNN.
"News" are not news anymore.
That is the reason of nowaday Post Truth... and based on same Gel-mann Amnesia effect... and edutaiment.
\\Which (looks like to me) Qtard is defending. Because it says facts refuting Putin's propaganda are "totally cocked up by propaganda".
And you can give proper example of that "facts"???
Naaah.
You only giving "facts" that looking like exactly from liliPut's propaganda ars hole... like that thing about "there is nazis in Azov brigade" -- THAT IS, EXACTLY liliPut's propaganda talking point.
Successfully implanted and internalised into Leftist media narrative.
\\Qtard thinks "Bloody attrocities being revealed" is significantly different than "bloody escalation of the violence" because... it is an idiot.
atrocity /əˈtrɒsɪti/ noun an extremely wicked or cruel act, typically one involving physical violence or injury.
While violence is more ambigious... like can be percieved as two-sided.
YES!
Exactly THAT difference, that allow hypocritical lies to spread nasty durty untrue rumors and propaganda.
Like that that "Ukrainians are Nazis"... and therefore liliPut's idea to "deNaziufy" em, can be justified.
Yap.
And you are showed... itself, a lying scumbag. Again.
Scumbag that TRYING to placate and conceal liliPut's Poisonous Propaganda.
\\So, "Bloody attrocities being revealed" is not a "talking point"? It is truthful description of what happened?
Well... citizens of Bucha... laying on the streets... being killed by withdrawing ruSSian military forces... that is NOT Bloody Atrocity? or that is NOT Truthful Description? FOTOS! VIDEOs!!! Even with moments of killing directly!
Yap.
LiliPut's (and Western Leftist) Propaganda Narrative of Post Truth...
where even Objective Reality, Hard Scrabbed Facts... can be proclaimed not being truth.
While some delirious bullshit, can... and MUST be revered as Truth, and punished for lack of piety showed to that Holy Truthes.
%-))))))))))))))))))))))))))0
\\"Attrocities" with two Ts means withdrawing in anticipation of a peace agreement being reached?
WAT???? WAT???? WAT????
What "a peace agreement being reached"?????????????????
Dare to explain? to elaborate???
\\Going to defend Putin again, Qtard? Call the Reuters reporting "Demn propaganda"? "Three people close to the Russian leadership" are somebodys who said "something-something"?
I.
Simply do not need that "somebody-somebody"s babbling.
While FACT is that... that liliPut NEVER was stopping his offensive.
And that is BEHAVIOR is FACTUALLY anti-thetic to Peace.
That is Derpy the Idiot -- who cannot grasp what facts IS, and need somebody else to insert their propaganda talking point into its empty eggshell... for it to resemble anything human...
\\Maybe Qtard will insist that Putin is a good guy who would never reject a peace deal? Because "unhuman scumbag" Qtard secretly admires Putin, yes?
What an idiotic gas-lighting... well, yeah, natural for such an idiot.
Not based on anything. Just whimsical try to rub in some feces into opponent. OWN feces. Happily eaten, then extorted, then being layed in, then tryed to smear everything around.
Qtard: especially if they deseminated through social networks... or given through some shitty "news agregator" sites.
Maybe. Depends. But I was not talking about such sources.
Qtard: "News" are not news anymore.
Agreed. In regards to Fox, OAN, MewsMax, other rightturd "news" sources.
Qtard: That is the reason of nowaday Post Truth...
Post truth aka rightturd "alternative facts".
Qtard: And you can give proper example of that "facts"???
Did. See the first comment made by me. Qtard quoted it.
Qtard: Naaah.
Yes.
Qtard: You only giving "facts" that looking like exactly from liliPut's propaganda ars hole...
Never did. Refuted Putin's Propaganda. Confusing me with Minus FJ?
Qtard: like that thing about "there is nazis in Azov brigade" -- THAT IS, EXACTLY liliPut's propaganda talking point.
Lie.
Qtard: Successfully implanted and internalised into Leftist media narrative.
Lie. Putin's Propaganda successfully implanted and internalised into rightturd media narrative.
Qtard: \\Qtard thinks "Bloody attrocities being revealed" is significantly different than "bloody escalation of the violence" because... it is an idiot.\\**cuts and pastes dictionary definition of "atrocity".
Qtard lied again. Lie is that I EVER disputed that Russia committed atrocities. Russia absolutely DID. Part of Qtard's dirty pig/spewing of verbal feces trick to slime me with it's lies.
Qtard: While violence is more ambigious... like can be percieved as two-sided.
Lie. Article I quoted says "Russia's bloody escalation of the violence". RUSSIA, not "two sided".
Qtard: Exactly THAT difference...
Qtard lied. There was no difference.
Qtard: ...that allow hypocritical lies to spread nasty durty untrue rumors and propaganda.
But Qtard lied. "Russia's bloody escalation of the violence" includes atrocities.
Qtard: Like that that "Ukrainians are Nazis"... and therefore liliPut's idea to "deNaziufy" em, can be justified.
I AGREE, that is Putin's lie. Qtard's lie is that I have EVER said I agree with Putin's lies. Disagreed and refuted. Many times.
Qtard: Yap.
No.
Qtard: And you are showed... itself, a lying scumbag. Again.
Qtard showed itself to be a lying scumbag. Over and over.
Qtard: Scumbag that TRYING to placate and conceal liliPut's Poisonous Propaganda.
Never tried to conceal. Called it out. JUST did in my comment at the top of this thread.
And because? Because you "belive it being fact"? ;-P
\\Qtard: especially if they deseminated through social networks... or given through some shitty "news agregator" sites.
\\Maybe. Depends. But I was not talking about such sources.
And is there other sources?
Maybe you going to witness such things with own eyes?
Or... you have own secret servers or agency of news reporters?
\\Agreed. In regards to Fox, OAN, MewsMax, other rightturd "news" sources.
Well... given wuth that that you called CNN righturd too.... :-))))))))
\\Qtard: That is the reason of nowaday Post Truth...
\\Post truth aka rightturd "alternative facts".
That is... leftist invention.
From times of Carl Marx and his moronic Labour Theory of Value. ;-P
\\Qtard: And you can give proper example of that "facts"???
\\Did. See the first comment made by me. Qtard quoted it.
That "Russia's bloody escalation of the violence."
Which I revealed being liliPut's Poisonous Narrative.
That Ukraine ANYHOW deserved being attacked? Because it "escalated violence"?
\\Qtard: You only giving "facts" that looking like exactly from liliPut's propaganda ars hole...
\\Never did. Refuted Putin's Propaganda. Confusing me with Minus FJ?
Just above. When called Rush'A's ruthless attocities an "escalation of violence". Which subliminally assumes victim's fault... for "forcing agressor to escalate".
\\Qtard: like that thing about "there is nazis in Azov brigade" -- THAT IS, EXACTLY liliPut's propaganda talking point.
\\Lie
That Derpy is heinous scumbag which inclined to relentless lying about own lying words???
Well, that is NOT NEWS anymore. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\Qtard: Successfully implanted and internalised into Leftist media narrative.
\\Lie. Putin's Propaganda successfully implanted and internalised into rightturd media narrative.
And why demn-junky repeating that lies then???
"Mocking" republiturds??? :-))))))))))))))))))
And what more idiotic excuse you'll devise? :-))))))))))))))
\\Qtard: \\Qtard thinks "Bloody attrocities being revealed" is significantly different than "bloody escalation of the violence" because... it is an idiot.\\**cuts and pastes dictionary definition of "atrocity".
\\Qtard lied again. Lie is that I EVER disputed that Russia committed atrocities. Russia absolutely DID. Part of Qtard's dirty pig/spewing of verbal feces trick to slime me with it's lies.
Well... you are free to find, and demonstrate with links and quotes -- where BEFORE you called out Rush'A's atrocities.
For now.
Just here.
We have your words about "escalation of violence"... like that it Ukraine started that violence... and Rush'A -- just escalated -- which is liliPut's talking point -- reasoning he revealed in 24th of february 2022.
\\Qtard: While violence is more ambigious... like can be percieved as two-sided.
\\Lie. Article I quoted says "Russia's bloody escalation of the violence". RUSSIA, not "two sided".
escalate /ˈɛskəleɪt/ verb increase rapidly. "the price of tickets escalated"
What does it mean to be escalated? to become or make something become greater or more serious: His financial problems escalated after he became unemployed. The row could escalate into full-blown conflict. The decision to escalate UN involvement has been made in the hopes of a swift end to the hostilities.
Apparent... that "escalate" means "respond to something" -- EXACTLY what liliPut trying to placate its ruthless and baseless, started without ANY reason, just on its whim... bloody bath.
And well...
that it "increased rapidly" -- that is also A LIE.
War against Ukraine started in 2014... and continued ALL THIS TIME.
How IS THAT "rapidly"???
While it started and continues for almost 10 TEN year.
Only for heinous slowpokes.
Or... some heinous liar, that want to conceal that fact, when it started.
To make believe that that is new thing. Never seen before.
Why so? Isn't because that LIAR want to conceal their irresponsible behavior... in all that time?
\\But Qtard lied. "Russia's bloody escalation of the violence" includes atrocities.
Yep.
After I pointed to it.
Yawn.
What a Demn lie.
As usual.
Like "we, Demns, always was saying that Ukrainians being Nazis is liliPut's lie"... until recently.
But then, some Demn Propaganda Narrative toggled that switch, and all Demns started believeing that they ALLWAYS was thinking that way.
\\I AGREE, that is Putin's lie. Qtard's lie is that I have EVER said I agree with Putin's lies. Disagreed and refuted. Many times.
Like about that CNN reporter areticle about nazis in Azov brigade? ;-P
\\Qtard showed itself to be a lying scumbag. Over and over.
"Over and over" Derpy the Idiot NEVER able to confirm with quotes?
Qtard: Apparent... that "escalate" means "respond to something"...
Lie. Escalate means to "increase rapidly" (which you later acknowledge). "respond to something" isn't included in the definition.
Qtard: that it "increased rapidly" -- that is also A LIE.
Truth.
Qtard: War against Ukraine started in 2014... and continued ALL THIS TIME. How IS THAT "rapidly"???
Wikipedia: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine began on the morning of 24 February 2022".
The authors of the article I quoted are referring to the full scale invasion. Russia escalated the violence... re the full scale invasion. War can be "escalated" many times during the course of a conflict. Qtard does not understand because it is an idiot.
FYI, the conflict is ONE-SIDED. Russia is the aggressor. Ukraine is defending itself.
Qtard: While it started and continues for almost 10 TEN year.
The quoted article doesn't deny this. The article concerns the full scale invasion that began on 2/14/2022.
Qtard: Only for heinous slowpokes. Or... some heinous liar, that want to conceal that fact, when it started. To make believe that that is new thing. Never seen before.
WHO wants to "conceal" when Russia started attacking Ukraine? The rightwing author of the article, Cathy Young (know she is a rightwinger because she is a fellow at the Cato Institute and a contributing editor to Reason)?
Qtard: Why so? Isn't because that LIAR want to conceal their irresponsible behavior... in all that time?
What was Cathy Young's irresponsible behavior? Or maybe Qtard (due to being an idiot) thinks "0-bama" and/or "Bi-den" authored the article? Or that the rightwinger Cathy Young is trying to "conceal" "irresponsible behavior" of "0-bama" and "Bi-den"?
Qtard: \\But Qtard lied. "Russia's bloody escalation of the violence" includes atrocities\\ Yep. After I pointed to it.
The violence only escalated after Qtard pointed to it? I don't think so. But if true, then Qtard shouldn't have pointed to it!! Qtard is obviously a Ukraine-hater. WANTED Ukraine attacked. So pointed to it, CAUSING the violence to escalate. As per Qtard's confession.
Qtard: What a Demn lie. As usual.
As usual Qtard has no idea (at all) what it is talking about. Article authored by a rightwinger. As I pointed out.
Qtard: Like "we, Demns, always was saying that Ukrainians being Nazis is liliPut's lie"... until recently.
No. Democrats have ALWAYS said Ukrainians being Nazis is Putin's lie. Saying that Ukrainians are Nazis is Putin lie being parroted by rightturds.
Qtard: But then, some Demn Propaganda Narrative toggled that switch, and all Demns started believeing that they ALLWAYS was thinking that way.
Bullshit. There was no switch that was toggled by "Demn propaganda narrative". The republitud propaganda narrative agrees with the Putin lie that Ukraine invasion was needed to denazify it.
Qtard: \\I AGREE, that is Putin's lie. Qtard's lie is that I have EVER said I agree with Putin's lies. Disagreed and refuted. Many times\\Like about that CNN reporter areticle about nazis in Azov brigade?
No. Like me saying that the Ukraine government isn't filled with Nazis and therefore doesn't need to be denazified. Something I have ALWAYS said. Never deviated from (re Qtard's BS about a switch being toggled).
The CNN article was truth-telling about a small number of self-identified Nazis in the Azov brigade. Unfortunate truth, but a truth nonetheless. Can't be denied by intellectually honest individuals like myself.
Qtard: \\Qtard showed itself to be a lying scumbag. Over and over\\"Over and over" Derpy the Idiot NEVER able to confirm with quotes? **moronic laughter**
Yes. Every time I quoted Qtard in my comment above. ALL lies.
Qtard redefining "escalate" by ADDING "respond to something" to it. Like Qtard took the definition of "truth" and added the word "obvious". Like the truth is conditional on it being obvious. NOT. And let's not forget that Qtard took my comment "I *DO* deny" and ADDED "em their rights". Actions that EARNED Qtard the label "lying scumbag".
\\Lie. Escalate means to "increase rapidly" (which you later acknowledge). "respond to something" isn't included in the definition.
That's why I gave usual usages of it too.
And that usages, shows it right away... that that "increase rapidly" USUALLY coincide with some rational reasoning why so.
AND THAT IS... EXACTLY what propaganda USES when conckocting it's missives -- plausibly looking rationales.
Like what Nazis was doing... when they at first clogged Jews into some place where they was not able to care about their outer appearence... then maked fotos of that worn out and dirty people, to spread it as "evidances" Jews being dirty and infectious beasts.
\\Qtard: that it "increased rapidly" -- that is also A LIE.
\\Truth.
Lie.
Because IT ALL was orchestrated by Rush'A.
FROM THE VERY beginning.
From helping crimnal prezident Yanukovich to flee... with all money it could grab.
IT ALL was orchestrated... and Propaganda was spreading on the West...
that it "happened spontaneously".
And that "bloody escalation of the violence" is the CENTRAL PART of that nasty propaganda narrative.
\\Qtard: War against Ukraine started in 2014... and continued ALL THIS TIME. How IS THAT "rapidly"???
\\Wikipedia: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine began on the morning of 24 February 2022".
Bull Shit.
You mean some blurts of some anonimous writer/editor of Wikipedia is MORE IMPORTANT than FACTS of Rush'A's Invasion into Ukraine???
Of course you are.
Cause you "believe in facts". That actually are non-facts... and only some convinient to your talking points blurts out of some anomimouses or semi-anonimouses.
:-)))))))))))))))
\\The authors of the article I quoted are referring to the full scale invasion. Russia escalated the violence... re the full scale invasion. War can be "escalated" many times during the course of a conflict. Qtard does not understand because it is an idiot.
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))
Derpy the Happy Propaganbda Poop Eater... trying to say something against someone who know ACTUAL FACTS...
Well, as usual. :-))))))))))))))))))))))
What a bonker.
\\FYI, the conflict is ONE-SIDED. Russia is the aggressor. Ukraine is defending itself.
Aha... ONLY, that prezident of France and chancelor of Germany, that helped liliPut to placate it... and pushed Ukraine to admit lose of Crimia... was spreading narrative of liliPut propaganda that that is "civic conflict" of a kind.
The same as 0-bama and Bi-den.
\\The quoted article doesn't deny this. The article concerns the full scale invasion that began on 2/14/2022.
Yep-yep-yep.
It only subliminally pushing needed narrative.
As any propaganda DO.
\\Qtard: Only for heinous slowpokes. Or... some heinous liar, that want to conceal that fact, when it started. To make believe that that is new thing. Never seen before.
\\WHO wants to "conceal" when Russia started attacking Ukraine?
All kinds of "helpers" from the West... that EVEN TODAY trying to push Ukraine to "admit lose of territories... for the sake of Peace".
Even though History teaches, that it can lead only to BIGGER war.
"Appeasing of Hitler" -- go ask Google about it all.
\\Or maybe Qtard (due to being an idiot) thinks "0-bama" and/or "Bi-den" authored the article?
Like there ever was shortage of those who like to placate their misdeeds...
\\The violence only escalated after Qtard pointed to it? I don't think so. But if true, then Qtard shouldn't have pointed to it!! Qtard is obviously a Ukraine-hater. WANTED Ukraine attacked. So pointed to it, CAUSING the violence to escalate. As per Qtard's confession.
Yawn.
Gibberish.
\\As usual Qtard has no idea (at all) what it is talking about. Article authored by a rightwinger. As I pointed out.
Like *I* care. :-))))))))))))))))))))))
YOU cited it. Are you righturd too? ;-P
\\No. Democrats have ALWAYS said Ukrainians being Nazis is Putin's lie. Saying that Ukrainians are Nazis is Putin lie being parroted by rightturds.
Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia - George Orwell - 1984 www.abhafoundation.org › assets › books › html Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, ...
\\The CNN article was truth-telling about a small number of self-identified Nazis in the Azov brigade.
That mean that reporter said truth... BUT, I have NO means to confirm that.
And it... states something OPPOSITE to what I know as facts.
Such "truth-telling", which is NOT supported by some HARD evidances -- that is what LIES of propaganda consist of.
\\Unfortunate truth, but a truth nonetheless. Can't be denied by intellectually honest individuals like myself.
Aha... "truth", that do not need to be confirmed, by some HARD and SOLID material evidamces. Just from words of some other people.
Yap.
That is "Truth" usual among Religious Bonkers...
like that same Christians, or any other religion followers.
Do they have ANY real evidances of Jesus living??? Naaah.
They just have many time re-edited and mangled, retranslated text... of unknown author.
But... they BELIEVE IT never the less... and ready even to KILL, those who would state reasonable doubts about it being truthful.
And that Derpy asks me why I call it Religious Bonker??? :-))))))))))))))))))
\\Qtard redefining "escalate" by ADDING "respond to something" to it. Like Qtard took the definition of "truth" and added the word "obvious". Like the truth is conditional on it being obvious. NOT. And let's not forget that Qtard took my comment "I *DO* deny" and ADDED "em their rights". Actions that EARNED Qtard the label "lying scumbag".
*I*... EXPLAINED my reasoning behind EACH of this cases. Reasoning you never have courage to oppose to, even.
YOU... NEVER do.
YOU, as true Religious Bonker only pointing at argument you don't like and screaming "Wrong!"(oh... that was dRump), saying "No".
Without ANY argumentation.
Like it should mean anything. That you baseless "no". ;-P
Qtard: \\Escalate means to "increase rapidly" ... "respond to something" isn't included in the definition\\And that usages, shows it right away... that that "increase rapidly" USUALLY coincide with some rational reasoning why so.
The reason why is because Russia isn't interested in peace. Putin rejected the offer to withdraw in exchange for promises from Ukraine to never join Nato... because Putin wants to force Ukraine to rejoin Russia. Or take as much territory as possible. Use of the word "escalate" wasn't placing any blame on Ukraine. Wasn't feeding Putin's propaganda narrative. Except in Qtard's delusions.
Qtard: AND THAT IS... EXACTLY what propaganda USES when conckocting it's missives -- plausibly looking rationales.
Wasn't plausible. Also NOT what the article says. Qtard imagined meaning behind use of the word "escalate" that the author of the article did not mean.
Qtard: Like what Nazis was doing... when they at first clogged Jews into some place where they was not able to care about their outer appearence... then maked fotos of that worn out and dirty people, to spread it as "evidances" Jews being dirty and infectious beasts.
Nazi analogies again. Even though completely inapplicable. Because the author of the article wasn't trying to justify Russia's escalation. Or blame it on Ukraine. Except in Qtard's delusions.
Qtard: that it "increased rapidly" -- that is also A LIE\\Truth\\Lie. Because IT ALL was orchestrated by Rush'A.
Qtard lies. There is no such country as "Rush'A". The escalation was orchestrated by Russia.
Qtard: FROM THE VERY beginning.
True about Russia. Not Rush'A. There is no such country (or person?) as "Rush'A". Is Qtard covering for Putin by blaming an imaginary country (Rush'A) instead of Russia?
Qtard: From helping crimnal prezident Yanukovich to flee... with all money it could grab. IT ALL was orchestrated... and Propaganda was spreading on the West...
Spreading to the West via USA repubiturds, primarily.
Qtard: ...that it "happened spontaneously". And that "bloody escalation of the violence" is the CENTRAL PART of that nasty propaganda narrative.
Isn't. Nasty propaganda narrative being discussed is that Russia was on the verge of accepting a peace deal but the USA said "no".
Qtard: War against Ukraine started in 2014... and continued ALL THIS TIME. How IS THAT "rapidly"???\\Wikipedia: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine began on the morning of 24 February 2022". Bull Shit.
Proven objective point-to-reality FACT.
Qtard: You mean some blurts of some anonimous writer/editor of Wikipedia is MORE IMPORTANT than FACTS of Rush'A's Invasion into Ukraine???
No "blurt". Fact that can be confirmed by MANY sources. Not just Wikipedia.
Qtard: Of course you are. Cause you "believe in facts". That actually are non-facts... and only some convinient to your talking points blurts out of some anomimouses or semi-anonimouses **moronic laughter**
Believe in facts that are facts.
Qtard: \\The author of the article I quoted is referring to the full scale invasion. Russia escalated the violence... re the full scale invasion. War can be "escalated" many times during the course of a conflict\\**moronic laughter** Derpy the Happy Propaganbda Poop Eater... trying to say something against someone who know ACTUAL FACTS...
Qtard doesn't know facts. Admitted it itself. By saying the full scale invasion of Ukraine didn't happen on 2/24/2022. Covering for Putin? Happily eating Putin's poop?
Qtard: Well, as usual.**moronic laughter** What a bonker.
Bonkerism on display by Qtard. Via his idiocy over the word "escalate". Used to blame Russia, but the bonker says it was used to accuse Ukraine and feed Putin's propaganda narrative.
Qtard: \\the conflict is ONE-SIDED. Russia is the aggressor. Ukraine is defending itself\\Aha... ONLY, that prezident of France and chancelor of Germany, that helped liliPut to placate
it... and pushed Ukraine to admit lose of Crimia... was spreading narrative of liliPut propaganda that that is "civic conflict" of a kind. The same as 0-bama and Bi-den.
I don't know about Qtard's unsourced allegation. Didn't hear about it (if it happened). Do know that Obama and Biden consider the Russian annexation of Crimea to be illegal.
Qtard: \\The quoted article doesn't deny this. The article concerns the full scale invasion that began on 2/14/2022\\Yep-yep-yep. It only subliminally pushing needed narrative. As any propaganda DO.
Putin narrative NOT pushed. Even "subliminally". Not pushed AT ALL. Refuted.
Qtard: \\WHO wants to "conceal" when Russia started attacking Ukraine?\\All kinds of "helpers" from the West...
I meant in regards to the article. We were talking about the article I quoted. Qtard was babbling about a "heinous liar". Qtard attacked the article, idiotically claiming it is Putin propaganda based on the use of the word "escalate". Because it is an idiot.
Article was written by a republican, btw. Previously Qtard blamed Democrats for the situation in Ukraine and praised republicans (they "stormed" the White House demanding more aid). Qtard probably didn't even bother to look. Assumed (because it fits Qtard's false narrative) that the author is a Democrat.
Why I asked WHO Qtard was talking about. Not a question about who is helping Putin in general. Question was about the article and Qtard's response to it. But Qtard didn't understand. Because of its idiocy.
Qtard: Even though History teaches, that it can lead only to BIGGER war. "Appeasing of Hitler" -- go ask Google about it all.
Appeasing of Hitler done by USA republicans. Similar to how (now, again) republiturds are appeasing Putin.
Qtard: \\Or maybe Qtard ... thinks "0-bama" and/or "Bi-den" authored the article?\\Like there ever was shortage of those who like to placate their misdeeds...
No alleged "misdeed" of Obama or Biden were mentioned in the article. No placating attempted. If the republican author of the article was asked, would probably place some blame on Obama.
Qtard: \\The violence only escalated after Qtard pointed to it?\\... Yawn. Gibberish.
My comment concerned what Qtard wrote. Qtard is calling its own words "gibberish". OK, I will agree with it. What Qtard wrote was dumb. Though almost ALL of what Qtard writes is dumb.
Qtard: \\As usual Qtard has no idea (at all) what it is talking about. Article authored by a rightwinger. As I pointed out\\Like *I* care **moronic laughter**
Qtard deploys its "I don't care" escape. Qtard claimed republicans were "storming" the White House demanding more aid for Ukraine. Now Qtard doesn't care about its prior narrative that republicans are the good guys, while "Bi-den" is slowing down aid (to help Putin)?
Qtard: YOU cited it. Are you righturd too?
Lefty Democrat. Not a rightturd like Qtard.
Qtard: \\No. Democrats have ALWAYS said Ukrainians being Nazis is Putin's lie. Saying that Ukrainians are Nazis is Putin lie being parroted by rightturds\\Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia - George Orwell - 1984.
Qtard: \\The CNN article was truth-telling about a small number of self-identified Nazis in the Azov brigade\\That mean that reporter said truth... BUT, I have NO means to confirm that.
Because you are an idiot. Thinks "I have NO means to confirm that" allows it to dismiss any fact it does not like.
Qtard: And it... states something OPPOSITE to what I know as facts.
"Know" how? From your delusions?
Qtard: Such "truth-telling", which is NOT supported by some HARD evidances -- that is what LIES of propaganda consist of.
IS supported by hard evidence.
"The militia [Azov Battalion] was founded by Andriy Biletsky, an ultra-nationalist political figure who previously led groups including the openly neo-Nazi Social-National Assembly (SNA), which preached an ideology of racial purity for Ukraine". link.
Qtard: \\Unfortunate truth, but a truth nonetheless. Can't be denied by intellectually honest individuals like myself\\Aha... "truth", that do not need to be confirmed, by some HARD and SOLID material evidamces.
Confirmed by solid hard evidence. Not "evidamces" through. Don't know what "evidamces" are.
Qtard: Yap. That is "Truth" usual among Religious Bonkers... like that same Christians, or any other religion followers.
Bullshit. Qtard lied about there being no hard evidence. Brings up its "Religious bonker" canard AGAIN.
Qtard: Do they have ANY real evidances of Jesus living??? Naaah.
We were not discussing Jesus. Yet Qtard keeps bringing him up. Over and over like a broken record. THINKS it proves something.
Qtard: They just have many time re-edited and mangled, retranslated text... of unknown author. But... they BELIEVE IT never the less... and ready even to KILL, those who would state reasonable doubts about it being truthful.
Non sequitur that has NOTHING to do with the discussion at hand.
Qtard: And that Derpy asks me why I call it Religious Bonker??? **moronic laughter**
No, I know. The reason is Qtard is an idiot.
Qtard: \\Qtard redefining "escalate" by ADDING "respond to something" to it. ... \\*I*... EXPLAINED my reasoning behind EACH of this cases. Reasoning you never have courage to oppose to, even.
Faulty reasoning doesn't give Qtard license to change dictionary definitions.
Qtard: YOU... NEVER do.
Bullshit.
Qtard: YOU, as true Religious Bonker only pointing at argument you don't like and screaming "Wrong!"(oh... that was dRump), saying "No".
Bullshit. Say only "no" once in a while. Certainly not all the time.
Qtard: Without ANY argumentation.
Lie.
Qtard: Like it should mean anything. That you baseless "no".
btw - Since when does saying the phrase "faulty reasoning" ever get taken as an adequate substitute for an actual argument proving faulty reasoning"? Jes' wondrin'.
\\btw - Since when does saying the phrase "faulty reasoning" ever get taken as an adequate substitute for an actual argument proving faulty reasoning"? Jes' wondrin'.
You, gotcha. :-)))
\\The reason why is because Russia isn't interested in peace. Putin rejected the offer to withdraw
What a BIG NEWS. NOt. :-))))))))))))))
And WHEN Rush´A was interested in Peace??? In all history.
\\Use of the word "escalate" wasn't placing any blame on Ukraine. Wasn't feeding Putin's propaganda narrative. Except in Qtard's delusions.
EVEN... if it repeats liliPut´s Propaganda narrative???
\\Qtard: AND THAT IS... EXACTLY what propaganda USES when conckocting it's missives -- plausibly looking rationales.
\\Wasn't plausible. Also NOT what the article says. Qtard imagined meaning behind use of the word "escalate" that the author of the article did not mean.
Whatever.
Like, recently... someone from office of Ians Stoltanbegr blurted out something about ¨end of war in exchange for territories¨... and also have used that excuse ¨Ï didn´t mean that¨.
But.
It was perpetuation of liliPut´s Propaganda never the less.
And was rightfully backlashed as one.
Wanna repeat some OTHER liliPut´s Propaganda narrative -- about ¨need to hear ALL voices¨???
\\Nazi analogies again. Even though completely inapplicable. Because the author of the article wasn't trying to justify Russia's escalation. Or blame it on Ukraine.
Putin do.
And any such perpetuation of his narratives on the West -- direct help to him.
SAME. As perpetuation of narratives about Jews... EVEN if without supporting me, like ¨see what that Nazis saying¨ -- that was HELING HITLER -- thatś why there is that so-called neo-nazis -- because Nazi´s Narrative was spreaded and deeply rooted.
\\Qtard lies. There is no such country as "Rush'A". The escalation was orchestrated by Russia.
There is NO such country as Russia.
Historically, that is how bizantines was calling part of land and people living around Kyiv.
Then... when Kyiv was destroyed by mongols, Mos-cow dukes took that name for themself, to call themself kings.
Then, it started calling itself Russian Empire. Or Third Rome.
Then it break up. And USSR emerged. Which was not Russia (dispite what Russian Empire emigration teached your CNN reporters to think)... and only contained as part Socialistic Russian Federation.
Then... undr Gorby that Socilaistic fell out too.
And that is what remains till today as Russian Federation.
That means, Russia -- it´s a name of the Three Century Fraud. Not the name of ANY country.
And Rush´A -- that is how aborigenes calling their place of living. ;-P
Mimicing YOUR prononciation of Russia.
So... calling it Russia -- itś spreading liliPut´s narrative.
\\Isn't. Nasty propaganda narrative being discussed is that Russia was on the verge of accepting a peace deal but the USA said "no".
Only lately.
Out of desperation liliPut fell to that trick too.
I confirm.
But all other narratives he keep spreading too...
\\Qtard: War against Ukraine started in 2014... and continued ALL THIS TIME. How IS THAT "rapidly"???\\Wikipedia: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine began on the morning of 24 February 2022". Bull Shit.
\\Proven objective point-to-reality FACT.
Yep.
That that is liliPut´s narrative it started spreading in that day... to justify its war.
\\Qtard: You mean some blurts of some anonimous writer/editor of Wikipedia is MORE IMPORTANT than FACTS of Rush'A's Invasion into Ukraine???
\\No "blurt". Fact that can be confirmed by MANY sources. Not just Wikipedia.
¨Sources¨ filled to the brims with liliPutś Propaganda?
Do you know how many billions liliPut throwed in into that ¨sources¨????
Because HE know that Propaganda works the best -- EXACTLY when people hear it ¨confirmed by MANY sources¨.
\\Believe in facts that are facts.
Even though facts do not need to be believed? ;-P
\\Qtard doesn't know facts. Admitted it itself. By saying the full scale invasion of Ukraine didn't happen on 2/24/2022. Covering for Putin? Happily eating Putin's poop?
And you know it being fact?
Because what?
Because liliPut in the morning of that day early started its press-conferation and diclared ¨full scale invasion¨?
Isn´t it?
So... you taking heinous liar liliPut¨s words as granted and as factual Truth.
And WHO ARE YOU, if not liliPut´s Useful Idiot??? :-))))))))))))))))))))
\\Used to blame Russia, but the bonker says it was used to accuse Ukraine and feed Putin's propaganda narrative.
¨Used to blame¨??? With exactly SAME phrasing as liliPut´s Propaganda spreading???
That that is ¨bloody escalation¨ of an alleged ¨civil war¨ of Ukrainians against eastern ¨rebels¨.
THAT IS EXACTLY what liliPut CLAIMED in that morning of 24th of February, 2022.
And YOU. On the West... keep repeating it.
SAME as you was repeating that Hitlerś lie, that Poland attacked Germany.
\\I don't know about Qtard's unsourced allegation. Didn't hear about it (if it happened).
Yap.
You DO NOT know basic facts... but still claim that they do not exist.
\\Do know that Obama and Biden consider the Russian annexation of Crimea to be illegal.
Whatever.
They did NOTHING to prevent it. Or punish liliPut for it, for the least.
\\Putin narrative NOT pushed. Even "subliminally". Not pushed AT ALL. Refuted.
Yep.
Thjrough that childish ¨la-la-la, I don´t hear you, la-la-la, I don´t listen to you¨. :-))))))))))))
\\Article was written by a republican, btw. Previously Qtard blamed Democrats for the situation in Ukraine and
Based on facts.
Obama DID NOT punished liliPut. Biden did not stopped it.
Both are Democratic POTUSES, isn¨t it?
And Democrats SUPPORT their POTUSES... in all their (mis)deeds, isn´t it?
\\Appeasing of Hitler done by USA republicans. Similar to how (now, again) republiturds are appeasing Putin.
Oh, yes?
And what was the name of POTUS in that time? And which alignment he had?
\\Qtard: \\The violence only escalated after Qtard pointed to it?\\... Yawn. Gibberish.
\\My comment concerned what Qtard wrote. Qtard is calling its own words "gibberish". OK, I will agree with it.
YOUR OWN WORDS in that QUOTE... but, SOMEHOW???, that is MY ONW WORDS. :-))))))))))))))
No end of idiocy demonstration, from Derpy The Idiot. :-))))))))))))))
And WHOM should believe in that idiotic make believe, I wonder??? :-))))))))))))))
Idiot making it up, completely, completely faked slurr... and want, WHAT???, what it wants??? That dumb ass... such an apparent faked make belive -- to be seen as something TRUE?????
As I have said... No End of Idiocy. :-))))))))))))))))
\\My comment concerned...
Whatever.
Nobody care what your words ¨concerned¨ about. They are words of idiot, and idiotic words.
Gibberish blurts.
Exactly as in dictionary stated. ¨Unintelligible nonsense¨. ;-P
\\Qtard: \\No. Democrats have ALWAYS said Ukrainians being Nazis is Putin's lie. Saying that Ukrainians are Nazis is Putin lie being parroted by rightturds\\Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia - George Orwell - 1984.
\\Qtard: \\The CNN article was truth-telling about a small number of self-identified Nazis in the Azov brigade\\That mean that reporter said truth... BUT, I have NO means to confirm that.
\\Because you are an idiot. Thinks "I have NO means to confirm that" allows it to dismiss any fact it does not like.
Inability to confirm that this or that fact EXIST. Can mean that that fact DO NOT exist.
As that is IMPOSSIBLE to confirm existance of something... that DO NOT.
And.
Believeing in fact... WITHOUT CONFIRMATION...
Well, that is pretty much ALL what Religious Bonkers do.
Yep, Derpy.
And Thank YOU.
For such a thorough and transparent CONFIRMATION of that EXISTING fact -- that you are Religious Bonker -- who eager to ¨believe in facts¨... even if they DO NOT exist. ;-P
\\Qtard: And it... states something OPPOSITE to what I know as facts.
\\"Know" how? From your delusions?
From my personal first-hand experiences. From percieving some apparent facts. From examining and cross-examinging em with use of my mind.
Well, from that same sources ANY smart person take it´s understanding of Reality and bases own opinion on.
But, yeah... it all can be seen as ¨delusions¨... for an idiot. ;-P
\\Qtard: Such "truth-telling", which is NOT supported by some HARD evidances -- that is what LIES of propaganda consist of.
\\IS supported by hard evidence.
\\"The militia [Azov Battalion] was founded by Andriy Biletsky, an ultra-nationalist political figure who previously led groups including the openly neo-Nazi Social-National Assembly (SNA), which preached an ideology of racial purity for Ukraine". link.
Thank you for this example of Demn propaganda.
Or what??? That CBS is republiturd too??? :-))))))))))))
\\Qtard: \\Unfortunate truth, but a truth nonetheless. Can't be denied by intellectually honest individuals like myself\\Aha... "truth", that do not need to be confirmed, by some HARD and SOLID material evidamces.
\\Confirmed by solid hard evidence.
Solid and hard... but NOT materisl? Am I grasping your response here correctly?
\\Bullshit. Qtard lied about there being no hard evidence.
Of existance of Jesus? ;-P
\\We were not discussing Jesus. Yet Qtard keeps bringing him up. Over and over like a broken record. THINKS it proves something.
Yep.
You are right.
And logical.
UNexistance -- proves nothing. ;-P
Only EXISTANCE proves.
Unexistant stone CANNOT fall on ones head and kill. EXISTING stone -- CAN, and WILL.
THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE -- between HARD and SOLID material fact.
And some nonsense. ;-P
\\Qtard: \\Qtard redefining "escalate" by ADDING "respond to something" to it. ... \\*I*... EXPLAINED my reasoning behind EACH of this cases. Reasoning you never have courage to oppose to, even.
\\Faulty reasoning doesn't give Qtard license to change dictionary definitions.
Hmmm... but that was EXAMPLES OF USAGE from dictionary exactly.
So... you just again trying to oppose to definitions given to you from dictionaries.
Am I right with understanding what you are trying to do here?
Dismis dictinaries as source for meaning of words? ;-P
\\Qtard: Like it should mean anything. That you baseless "no".
\\I never gave a baseless "no".
¨No¨ that goes alone. Without ANY additional explanation. Is baseless.
Your Captain Obvious.
HOW it can be called based on something -- when there is NOTHING under, around or behind it. ;-P
Qtard: \\"Know" how? From your delusions?\\From my personal first-hand experiences. From percieving some apparent facts. From examining and cross-examinging em with use of my mind.
37 comments:
...the U.S. Didn't Scuttle a Ukraine Peace Deal.
Claim: Russia and Ukraine reached a preliminary agreement during the early phase of the war — "Both sides very much wanted a ceasefire -- but the US blocked it".
Verdict: False.
Explanation: An early agreement was reached that called for Russian troops to withdraw to Feb 23 positions -- and in return Ukraine would never join NATO. Russian troops never met these commitments.
...it wasn't the United States or Western countries or NATO that ended any peace talks, such as they were. Rather, it was, first and foremost, Russia's bloody escalation of the violence.
You suffering from Gell-Mann amnesia again?
No. I have heard elsewhere that is what happened.
\\You suffering from Gell-Mann amnesia again?
Can idiots suffer from Gell-Mann amnesia at all??? :-))))))))))))))))
\\...it wasn't the United States or Western countries or NATO that ended any peace talks, such as they were. Rather, it was, first and foremost, Russia's bloody escalation of the violence.
No. Bloody attrocities being revealed...
\\No. I have heard elsewhere that is what happened.
Yep.
You "heard" some rumors... richly spiced, or even totally cocked up by propaganda.
But you habitually "believe" em being facts.
Miuserly idiot, idiotic understanding of Reality. ;-P
DNC Talking Points Memo's never lie, Q.
LOL!
Meanwhile...
Qtard: You "heard" some rumors...
Didn't hear ANY rumors. My comment does not contain the word "rumors". I was referring to other news reports. Other news articles. NOT Putin propaganda. Which (looks like to me) Qtard is defending. Because it says facts refuting Putin's propaganda are "totally cocked up by propaganda".
Qtard: ... richly spiced, or even totally cocked up by propaganda. But you habitually "believe" em being facts.
Qtard thinks "Bloody attrocities being revealed" is significantly different than "bloody escalation of the violence" because... it is an idiot.
Minus: DNC Talking Points Memo's never lie, Q.
So, "Bloody attrocities being revealed" is not a "talking point"? It is truthful description of what happened? Why? Because "atrocities" is misspelled? "Attrocities" with two Ts means withdrawing in anticipation of a peace agreement being reached?
Aaron Maté (from video): ...maybe one day we'll get CNN to report that there was a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia that was tentatively reached in April 2022 but the West blocked it.
No. Because CNN doesn't report Putin puppet lies.
Putin puppet Aaron Mate says the West rejected the peace agreement, but that is FALSE.
Putin rejected the peace deal.
Reuters: Vladimir Putin's chief envoy on Ukraine told the Russian leader as the war began that he had struck a provisional deal with Kyiv that would satisfy Russia's demand that Ukraine stay out of NATO, but Putin rejected it and pressed ahead with his military campaign, according to three people close to the Russian leadership. [9/14/2022].
Going to defend Putin again, Qtard? Call the Reuters reporting "Demn propaganda"? "Three people close to the Russian leadership" are somebodys who said "something-something"?
Maybe Qtard will insist that Putin is a good guy who would never reject a peace deal? Because "unhuman scumbag" Qtard secretly admires Putin, yes?
\\DNC Talking Points Memo's never lie, Q.
NewSpeak memos? ;-P
\\Qtard: You "heard" some rumors...
\\Didn't hear ANY rumors. My comment does not contain the word "rumors". I was referring to other news reports.
"news reports" that IS rumors... especially if they deseminated through social networks... or given through some shitty "news agregator" sites.
Well... even if they are under famous in previous times brands. Like CNN.
"News" are not news anymore.
That is the reason of nowaday Post Truth... and based on same Gel-mann Amnesia effect... and edutaiment.
\\Which (looks like to me) Qtard is defending. Because it says facts refuting Putin's propaganda are "totally cocked up by propaganda".
And you can give proper example of that "facts"???
Naaah.
You only giving "facts" that looking like exactly from liliPut's propaganda ars hole... like that thing about "there is nazis in Azov brigade" -- THAT IS, EXACTLY liliPut's propaganda talking point.
Successfully implanted and internalised into Leftist media narrative.
\\Qtard thinks "Bloody attrocities being revealed" is significantly different than "bloody escalation of the violence" because... it is an idiot.
atrocity
/əˈtrɒsɪti/
noun
an extremely wicked or cruel act, typically one involving physical violence or injury.
While violence is more ambigious... like can be percieved as two-sided.
YES!
Exactly THAT difference, that allow hypocritical lies to spread nasty durty untrue rumors and propaganda.
Like that that "Ukrainians are Nazis"... and therefore liliPut's idea to "deNaziufy" em, can be justified.
Yap.
And you are showed... itself, a lying scumbag. Again.
Scumbag that TRYING to placate and conceal liliPut's Poisonous Propaganda.
\\So, "Bloody attrocities being revealed" is not a "talking point"? It is truthful description of what happened?
Well... citizens of Bucha... laying on the streets... being killed by withdrawing ruSSian military forces... that is NOT Bloody Atrocity? or that is NOT Truthful Description? FOTOS! VIDEOs!!! Even with moments of killing directly!
Yap.
LiliPut's (and Western Leftist) Propaganda Narrative of Post Truth...
where even Objective Reality, Hard Scrabbed Facts... can be proclaimed not being truth.
While some delirious bullshit, can... and MUST be revered as Truth, and punished for lack of piety showed to that Holy Truthes.
%-))))))))))))))))))))))))))0
\\"Attrocities" with two Ts means withdrawing in anticipation of a peace agreement being reached?
WAT???? WAT???? WAT????
What "a peace agreement being reached"?????????????????
Dare to explain? to elaborate???
\\Going to defend Putin again, Qtard? Call the Reuters reporting "Demn propaganda"? "Three people close to the Russian leadership" are somebodys who said "something-something"?
I.
Simply do not need that "somebody-somebody"s babbling.
While FACT is that... that liliPut NEVER was stopping his offensive.
And that is BEHAVIOR is FACTUALLY anti-thetic to Peace.
That is Derpy the Idiot -- who cannot grasp what facts IS, and need somebody else to insert their propaganda talking point into its empty eggshell... for it to resemble anything human...
\\Maybe Qtard will insist that Putin is a good guy who would never reject a peace deal? Because "unhuman scumbag" Qtard secretly admires Putin, yes?
What an idiotic gas-lighting... well, yeah, natural for such an idiot.
Not based on anything. Just whimsical try to rub in some feces into opponent. OWN feces. Happily eaten, then extorted, then being layed in, then tryed to smear everything around.
Miserl idiot, pig tricks. ;-P
/Newspeak...?
Yep.
Qtard: "news reports" that IS rumors...
Not the ones I got this information from.
Qtard: especially if they deseminated through social networks... or given through some shitty "news agregator" sites.
Maybe. Depends. But I was not talking about such sources.
Qtard: "News" are not news anymore.
Agreed. In regards to Fox, OAN, MewsMax, other rightturd "news" sources.
Qtard: That is the reason of nowaday Post Truth...
Post truth aka rightturd "alternative facts".
Qtard: And you can give proper example of that "facts"???
Did. See the first comment made by me. Qtard quoted it.
Qtard: Naaah.
Yes.
Qtard: You only giving "facts" that looking like exactly from liliPut's propaganda ars hole...
Never did. Refuted Putin's Propaganda. Confusing me with Minus FJ?
Qtard: like that thing about "there is nazis in Azov brigade" -- THAT IS, EXACTLY liliPut's propaganda talking point.
Lie.
Qtard: Successfully implanted and internalised into Leftist media narrative.
Lie. Putin's Propaganda successfully implanted and internalised into rightturd media narrative.
Qtard: \\Qtard thinks "Bloody attrocities being revealed" is significantly different than "bloody escalation of the violence" because... it is an idiot.\\**cuts and pastes dictionary definition of "atrocity".
Qtard lied again. Lie is that I EVER disputed that Russia committed atrocities. Russia absolutely DID. Part of Qtard's dirty pig/spewing of verbal feces trick to slime me with it's lies.
Qtard: While violence is more ambigious... like can be percieved as two-sided.
Lie. Article I quoted says "Russia's bloody escalation of the violence". RUSSIA, not "two sided".
Qtard: Exactly THAT difference...
Qtard lied. There was no difference.
Qtard: ...that allow hypocritical lies to spread nasty durty untrue rumors and propaganda.
But Qtard lied. "Russia's bloody escalation of the violence" includes atrocities.
Qtard: Like that that "Ukrainians are Nazis"... and therefore liliPut's idea to "deNaziufy" em, can be justified.
I AGREE, that is Putin's lie. Qtard's lie is that I have EVER said I agree with Putin's lies. Disagreed and refuted. Many times.
Qtard: Yap.
No.
Qtard: And you are showed... itself, a lying scumbag. Again.
Qtard showed itself to be a lying scumbag. Over and over.
Qtard: Scumbag that TRYING to placate and conceal liliPut's Poisonous Propaganda.
Never tried to conceal. Called it out. JUST did in my comment at the top of this thread.
"MewsMax" should be "NewsMax".
\\Qtard: "news reports" that IS rumors...
\\Not the ones I got this information from.
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
And because? Because you "belive it being fact"? ;-P
\\Qtard: especially if they deseminated through social networks... or given through some shitty "news agregator" sites.
\\Maybe. Depends. But I was not talking about such sources.
And is there other sources?
Maybe you going to witness such things with own eyes?
Or... you have own secret servers or agency of news reporters?
\\Agreed. In regards to Fox, OAN, MewsMax, other rightturd "news" sources.
Well... given wuth that that you called CNN righturd too.... :-))))))))
\\Qtard: That is the reason of nowaday Post Truth...
\\Post truth aka rightturd "alternative facts".
That is... leftist invention.
From times of Carl Marx and his moronic Labour Theory of Value. ;-P
\\Qtard: And you can give proper example of that "facts"???
\\Did. See the first comment made by me. Qtard quoted it.
That "Russia's bloody escalation of the violence."
Which I revealed being liliPut's Poisonous Narrative.
That Ukraine ANYHOW deserved being attacked? Because it "escalated violence"?
\\Qtard: You only giving "facts" that looking like exactly from liliPut's propaganda ars hole...
\\Never did. Refuted Putin's Propaganda. Confusing me with Minus FJ?
Just above. When called Rush'A's ruthless attocities an "escalation of violence". Which subliminally assumes victim's fault... for "forcing agressor to escalate".
\\Qtard: like that thing about "there is nazis in Azov brigade" -- THAT IS, EXACTLY liliPut's propaganda talking point.
\\Lie
That Derpy is heinous scumbag which inclined to relentless lying about own lying words???
Well, that is NOT NEWS anymore. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\Qtard: Successfully implanted and internalised into Leftist media narrative.
\\Lie. Putin's Propaganda successfully implanted and internalised into rightturd media narrative.
And why demn-junky repeating that lies then???
"Mocking" republiturds??? :-))))))))))))))))))
And what more idiotic excuse you'll devise? :-))))))))))))))
\\Qtard: \\Qtard thinks "Bloody attrocities being revealed" is significantly different than "bloody escalation of the violence" because... it is an idiot.\\**cuts and pastes dictionary definition of "atrocity".
\\Qtard lied again. Lie is that I EVER disputed that Russia committed atrocities. Russia absolutely DID. Part of Qtard's dirty pig/spewing of verbal feces trick to slime me with it's lies.
Well... you are free to find, and demonstrate with links and quotes -- where BEFORE you called out Rush'A's atrocities.
For now.
Just here.
We have your words about "escalation of violence"... like that it Ukraine started that violence... and Rush'A -- just escalated -- which is liliPut's talking point -- reasoning he revealed in 24th of february 2022.
And you repeating after... it.
\\Qtard: While violence is more ambigious... like can be percieved as two-sided.
\\Lie. Article I quoted says "Russia's bloody escalation of the violence". RUSSIA, not "two sided".
escalate
/ˈɛskəleɪt/
verb
increase rapidly.
"the price of tickets escalated"
What does it mean to be escalated?
to become or make something become greater or more serious: His financial problems escalated after he became unemployed. The row could escalate into full-blown conflict. The decision to escalate UN involvement has been made in the hopes of a swift end to the hostilities.
Apparent... that "escalate" means "respond to something" -- EXACTLY what liliPut trying to placate its ruthless and baseless, started without ANY reason, just on its whim... bloody bath.
And well...
that it "increased rapidly" -- that is also A LIE.
War against Ukraine started in 2014... and continued ALL THIS TIME.
How IS THAT "rapidly"???
While it started and continues for almost 10 TEN year.
Only for heinous slowpokes.
Or... some heinous liar, that want to conceal that fact, when it started.
To make believe that that is new thing. Never seen before.
Why so? Isn't because that LIAR want to conceal their irresponsible behavior... in all that time?
\\But Qtard lied. "Russia's bloody escalation of the violence" includes atrocities.
Yep.
After I pointed to it.
Yawn.
What a Demn lie.
As usual.
Like "we, Demns, always was saying that Ukrainians being Nazis is liliPut's lie"... until recently.
But then, some Demn Propaganda Narrative toggled that switch, and all Demns started believeing that they ALLWAYS was thinking that way.
\\I AGREE, that is Putin's lie. Qtard's lie is that I have EVER said I agree with Putin's lies. Disagreed and refuted. Many times.
Like about that CNN reporter areticle about nazis in Azov brigade? ;-P
\\Qtard showed itself to be a lying scumbag. Over and over.
"Over and over" Derpy the Idiot NEVER able to confirm with quotes?
:-))))))))))))))))))
Qtard: Apparent... that "escalate" means "respond to something"...
Lie. Escalate means to "increase rapidly" (which you later acknowledge). "respond to something" isn't included in the definition.
Qtard: that it "increased rapidly" -- that is also A LIE.
Truth.
Qtard: War against Ukraine started in 2014... and continued ALL THIS TIME. How IS THAT "rapidly"???
Wikipedia: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine began on the morning of 24 February 2022".
The authors of the article I quoted are referring to the full scale invasion. Russia escalated the violence... re the full scale invasion. War can be "escalated" many times during the course of a conflict. Qtard does not understand because it is an idiot.
FYI, the conflict is ONE-SIDED. Russia is the aggressor. Ukraine is defending itself.
Qtard: While it started and continues for almost 10 TEN year.
The quoted article doesn't deny this. The article concerns the full scale invasion that began on 2/14/2022.
Qtard: Only for heinous slowpokes. Or... some heinous liar, that want to conceal that fact, when it started. To make believe that that is new thing. Never seen before.
WHO wants to "conceal" when Russia started attacking Ukraine? The rightwing author of the article, Cathy Young (know she is a rightwinger because she is a fellow at the Cato Institute and a contributing editor to Reason)?
Qtard: Why so? Isn't because that LIAR want to conceal their irresponsible behavior... in all that time?
What was Cathy Young's irresponsible behavior? Or maybe Qtard (due to being an idiot) thinks "0-bama" and/or "Bi-den" authored the article? Or that the rightwinger Cathy Young is trying to "conceal" "irresponsible behavior" of "0-bama" and "Bi-den"?
Qtard: \\But Qtard lied. "Russia's bloody escalation of the violence" includes atrocities\\ Yep. After I pointed to it.
The violence only escalated after Qtard pointed to it? I don't think so. But if true, then Qtard shouldn't have pointed to it!! Qtard is obviously a Ukraine-hater. WANTED Ukraine attacked. So pointed to it, CAUSING the violence to escalate. As per Qtard's confession.
Qtard: What a Demn lie. As usual.
As usual Qtard has no idea (at all) what it is talking about. Article authored by a rightwinger. As I pointed out.
Qtard: Like "we, Demns, always was saying that Ukrainians being Nazis is liliPut's lie"... until recently.
No. Democrats have ALWAYS said Ukrainians being Nazis is Putin's lie. Saying that Ukrainians are Nazis is Putin lie being parroted by rightturds.
Qtard: But then, some Demn Propaganda Narrative toggled that switch, and all Demns started believeing that they ALLWAYS was thinking that way.
Bullshit. There was no switch that was toggled by "Demn propaganda narrative". The republitud propaganda narrative agrees with the Putin lie that Ukraine invasion was needed to denazify it.
Qtard: \\I AGREE, that is Putin's lie. Qtard's lie is that I have EVER said I agree with Putin's lies. Disagreed and refuted. Many times\\Like about that CNN reporter areticle about nazis in Azov brigade?
No. Like me saying that the Ukraine government isn't filled with Nazis and therefore doesn't need to be denazified. Something I have ALWAYS said. Never deviated from (re Qtard's BS about a switch being toggled).
The CNN article was truth-telling about a small number of self-identified Nazis in the Azov brigade. Unfortunate truth, but a truth nonetheless. Can't be denied by intellectually honest individuals like myself.
Qtard: \\Qtard showed itself to be a lying scumbag. Over and over\\"Over and over" Derpy the Idiot NEVER able to confirm with quotes? **moronic laughter**
Yes. Every time I quoted Qtard in my comment above. ALL lies.
Qtard redefining "escalate" by ADDING "respond to something" to it. Like Qtard took the definition of "truth" and added the word "obvious". Like the truth is conditional on it being obvious. NOT. And let's not forget that Qtard took my comment "I *DO* deny" and ADDED "em their rights". Actions that EARNED Qtard the label "lying scumbag".
\\Lie. Escalate means to "increase rapidly" (which you later acknowledge). "respond to something" isn't included in the definition.
That's why I gave usual usages of it too.
And that usages, shows it right away... that that "increase rapidly" USUALLY coincide with some rational reasoning why so.
AND THAT IS... EXACTLY what propaganda USES when conckocting it's missives -- plausibly looking rationales.
Like what Nazis was doing... when they at first clogged Jews into some place where they was not able to care about their outer appearence...
then maked fotos of that worn out and dirty people, to spread it as "evidances" Jews being dirty and infectious beasts.
\\Qtard: that it "increased rapidly" -- that is also A LIE.
\\Truth.
Lie.
Because IT ALL was orchestrated by Rush'A.
FROM THE VERY beginning.
From helping crimnal prezident Yanukovich to flee... with all money it could grab.
IT ALL was orchestrated... and Propaganda was spreading on the West...
that it "happened spontaneously".
And that "bloody escalation of the violence" is the CENTRAL PART of that nasty propaganda narrative.
\\Qtard: War against Ukraine started in 2014... and continued ALL THIS TIME. How IS THAT "rapidly"???
\\Wikipedia: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine began on the morning of 24 February 2022".
Bull Shit.
You mean some blurts of some anonimous writer/editor of Wikipedia is MORE IMPORTANT than FACTS of Rush'A's Invasion into Ukraine???
Of course you are.
Cause you "believe in facts". That actually are non-facts... and only some convinient to your talking points blurts out of some anomimouses or semi-anonimouses.
:-)))))))))))))))
\\The authors of the article I quoted are referring to the full scale invasion. Russia escalated the violence... re the full scale invasion. War can be "escalated" many times during the course of a conflict. Qtard does not understand because it is an idiot.
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))
Derpy the Happy Propaganbda Poop Eater... trying to say something against someone who know ACTUAL FACTS...
Well, as usual. :-))))))))))))))))))))))
What a bonker.
\\FYI, the conflict is ONE-SIDED. Russia is the aggressor. Ukraine is defending itself.
Aha... ONLY, that prezident of France and chancelor of Germany, that helped liliPut to placate it... and pushed Ukraine to admit lose of Crimia... was spreading narrative of liliPut propaganda that that is "civic conflict" of a kind.
The same as 0-bama and Bi-den.
\\The quoted article doesn't deny this. The article concerns the full scale invasion that began on 2/14/2022.
Yep-yep-yep.
It only subliminally pushing needed narrative.
As any propaganda DO.
\\Qtard: Only for heinous slowpokes. Or... some heinous liar, that want to conceal that fact, when it started. To make believe that that is new thing. Never seen before.
\\WHO wants to "conceal" when Russia started attacking Ukraine?
All kinds of "helpers" from the West... that EVEN TODAY trying to push Ukraine to "admit lose of territories... for the sake of Peace".
Even though History teaches, that it can lead only to BIGGER war.
"Appeasing of Hitler" -- go ask Google about it all.
\\Or maybe Qtard (due to being an idiot) thinks "0-bama" and/or "Bi-den" authored the article?
Like there ever was shortage of those who like to placate their misdeeds...
\\The violence only escalated after Qtard pointed to it? I don't think so. But if true, then Qtard shouldn't have pointed to it!! Qtard is obviously a Ukraine-hater. WANTED Ukraine attacked. So pointed to it, CAUSING the violence to escalate. As per Qtard's confession.
Yawn.
Gibberish.
\\As usual Qtard has no idea (at all) what it is talking about. Article authored by a rightwinger. As I pointed out.
Like *I* care. :-))))))))))))))))))))))
YOU cited it. Are you righturd too? ;-P
\\No. Democrats have ALWAYS said Ukrainians being Nazis is Putin's lie. Saying that Ukrainians are Nazis is Putin lie being parroted by rightturds.
Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia - George Orwell - 1984
www.abhafoundation.org › assets › books › html
Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, ...
\\The CNN article was truth-telling about a small number of self-identified Nazis in the Azov brigade.
That mean that reporter said truth... BUT, I have NO means to confirm that.
And it... states something OPPOSITE to what I know as facts.
Such "truth-telling", which is NOT supported by some HARD evidances -- that is what LIES of propaganda consist of.
\\Unfortunate truth, but a truth nonetheless. Can't be denied by intellectually honest individuals like myself.
Aha... "truth", that do not need to be confirmed, by some HARD and SOLID material evidamces. Just from words of some other people.
Yap.
That is "Truth" usual among Religious Bonkers...
like that same Christians, or any other religion followers.
Do they have ANY real evidances of Jesus living??? Naaah.
They just have many time re-edited and mangled, retranslated text... of unknown author.
But... they BELIEVE IT never the less... and ready even to KILL, those who would state reasonable doubts about it being truthful.
And that Derpy asks me why I call it Religious Bonker??? :-))))))))))))))))))
\\Qtard redefining "escalate" by ADDING "respond to something" to it. Like Qtard took the definition of "truth" and added the word "obvious". Like the truth is conditional on it being obvious. NOT. And let's not forget that Qtard took my comment "I *DO* deny" and ADDED "em their rights". Actions that EARNED Qtard the label "lying scumbag".
*I*... EXPLAINED my reasoning behind EACH of this cases. Reasoning you never have courage to oppose to, even.
YOU... NEVER do.
YOU, as true Religious Bonker only pointing at argument you don't like and screaming "Wrong!"(oh... that was dRump), saying "No".
Without ANY argumentation.
Like it should mean anything. That you baseless "no". ;-P
Qtard: \\Escalate means to "increase rapidly" ... "respond to something" isn't included in the definition\\And that usages, shows it right away... that that "increase rapidly" USUALLY coincide with some rational reasoning why so.
The reason why is because Russia isn't interested in peace. Putin rejected the offer to withdraw in exchange for promises from Ukraine to never join Nato... because Putin wants to force Ukraine to rejoin Russia. Or take as much territory as possible. Use of the word "escalate" wasn't placing any blame on Ukraine. Wasn't feeding Putin's propaganda narrative. Except in Qtard's delusions.
Qtard: AND THAT IS... EXACTLY what propaganda USES when conckocting it's missives -- plausibly looking rationales.
Wasn't plausible. Also NOT what the article says. Qtard imagined meaning behind use of the word "escalate" that the author of the article did not mean.
Qtard: Like what Nazis was doing... when they at first clogged Jews into some place where they was not able to care about their outer appearence... then maked fotos of that worn out and dirty people, to spread it as "evidances" Jews being dirty and infectious beasts.
Nazi analogies again. Even though completely inapplicable. Because the author of the article wasn't trying to justify Russia's escalation. Or blame it on Ukraine. Except in Qtard's delusions.
Qtard: that it "increased rapidly" -- that is also A LIE\\Truth\\Lie. Because IT ALL was orchestrated by Rush'A.
Qtard lies. There is no such country as "Rush'A". The escalation was orchestrated by Russia.
Qtard: FROM THE VERY beginning.
True about Russia. Not Rush'A. There is no such country (or person?) as "Rush'A". Is Qtard covering for Putin by blaming an imaginary country (Rush'A) instead of Russia?
Qtard: From helping crimnal prezident Yanukovich to flee... with all money it could grab. IT ALL was orchestrated... and Propaganda was spreading on the West...
Spreading to the West via USA repubiturds, primarily.
Qtard: ...that it "happened spontaneously". And that "bloody escalation of the violence" is the CENTRAL PART of that nasty propaganda narrative.
Isn't. Nasty propaganda narrative being discussed is that Russia was on the verge of accepting a peace deal but the USA said "no".
Qtard: War against Ukraine started in 2014... and continued ALL THIS TIME. How IS THAT "rapidly"???\\Wikipedia: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine began on the morning of 24 February 2022". Bull Shit.
Proven objective point-to-reality FACT.
Qtard: You mean some blurts of some anonimous writer/editor of Wikipedia is MORE IMPORTANT than FACTS of Rush'A's Invasion into Ukraine???
No "blurt". Fact that can be confirmed by MANY sources. Not just Wikipedia.
Qtard: Of course you are. Cause you "believe in facts". That actually are non-facts... and only some convinient to your talking points blurts out of some anomimouses or semi-anonimouses **moronic laughter**
Believe in facts that are facts.
Qtard: \\The author of the article I quoted is referring to the full scale invasion. Russia escalated the violence... re the full scale invasion. War can be "escalated" many times during the course of a conflict\\**moronic laughter** Derpy the Happy Propaganbda Poop Eater... trying to say something against someone who know ACTUAL FACTS...
Qtard doesn't know facts. Admitted it itself. By saying the full scale invasion of Ukraine didn't happen on 2/24/2022. Covering for Putin? Happily eating Putin's poop?
Qtard: Well, as usual.**moronic laughter** What a bonker.
Bonkerism on display by Qtard. Via his idiocy over the word "escalate". Used to blame Russia, but the bonker says it was used to accuse Ukraine and feed Putin's propaganda narrative.
Qtard: \\the conflict is ONE-SIDED. Russia is the aggressor. Ukraine is defending itself\\Aha... ONLY, that prezident of France and chancelor of Germany, that helped liliPut to placate
it... and pushed Ukraine to admit lose of Crimia... was spreading narrative of liliPut propaganda that that is "civic conflict" of a kind. The same as 0-bama and Bi-den.
I don't know about Qtard's unsourced allegation. Didn't hear about it (if it happened). Do know that Obama and Biden consider the Russian annexation of Crimea to be illegal.
Qtard: \\The quoted article doesn't deny this. The article concerns the full scale invasion that began on 2/14/2022\\Yep-yep-yep. It only subliminally pushing needed narrative. As any propaganda DO.
Putin narrative NOT pushed. Even "subliminally". Not pushed AT ALL. Refuted.
Qtard: \\WHO wants to "conceal" when Russia started attacking Ukraine?\\All kinds of "helpers" from the West...
I meant in regards to the article. We were talking about the article I quoted. Qtard was babbling about a "heinous liar". Qtard attacked the article, idiotically claiming it is Putin propaganda based on the use of the word "escalate". Because it is an idiot.
Article was written by a republican, btw. Previously Qtard blamed Democrats for the situation in Ukraine and praised republicans (they "stormed" the White House demanding more aid). Qtard probably didn't even bother to look. Assumed (because it fits Qtard's false narrative) that the author is a Democrat.
Why I asked WHO Qtard was talking about. Not a question about who is helping Putin in general. Question was about the article and Qtard's response to it. But Qtard didn't understand. Because of its idiocy.
Qtard: Even though History teaches, that it can lead only to BIGGER war. "Appeasing of Hitler" -- go ask Google about it all.
Appeasing of Hitler done by USA republicans. Similar to how (now, again) republiturds are appeasing Putin.
Qtard: \\Or maybe Qtard ... thinks "0-bama" and/or "Bi-den" authored the article?\\Like there ever was shortage of those who like to placate their misdeeds...
No alleged "misdeed" of Obama or Biden were mentioned in the article. No placating attempted. If the republican author of the article was asked, would probably place some blame on Obama.
Qtard: \\The violence only escalated after Qtard pointed to it?\\... Yawn. Gibberish.
My comment concerned what Qtard wrote. Qtard is calling its own words "gibberish". OK, I will agree with it. What Qtard wrote was dumb. Though almost ALL of what Qtard writes is dumb.
Qtard: \\As usual Qtard has no idea (at all) what it is talking about. Article authored by a rightwinger. As I pointed out\\Like *I* care **moronic laughter**
Qtard deploys its "I don't care" escape. Qtard claimed republicans were "storming" the White House demanding more aid for Ukraine. Now Qtard doesn't care about its prior narrative that republicans are the good guys, while "Bi-den" is slowing down aid (to help Putin)?
Qtard: YOU cited it. Are you righturd too?
Lefty Democrat. Not a rightturd like Qtard.
Qtard: \\No. Democrats have ALWAYS said Ukrainians being Nazis is Putin's lie. Saying that Ukrainians are Nazis is Putin lie being parroted by rightturds\\Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia - George Orwell - 1984.
George Orwell was a Democratic Socialist.
Qtard: \\The CNN article was truth-telling about a small number of self-identified Nazis in the Azov brigade\\That mean that reporter said truth... BUT, I have NO means to confirm that.
Because you are an idiot. Thinks "I have NO means to confirm that" allows it to dismiss any fact it does not like.
Qtard: And it... states something OPPOSITE to what I know as facts.
"Know" how? From your delusions?
Qtard: Such "truth-telling", which is NOT supported by some HARD evidances -- that is what LIES of propaganda consist of.
IS supported by hard evidence.
"The militia [Azov Battalion] was founded by Andriy Biletsky, an ultra-nationalist political figure who previously led groups including the openly neo-Nazi Social-National Assembly (SNA), which preached an ideology of racial purity for Ukraine". link.
Qtard: \\Unfortunate truth, but a truth nonetheless. Can't be denied by intellectually honest individuals like myself\\Aha... "truth", that do not need to be confirmed, by some HARD and SOLID material evidamces.
Confirmed by solid hard evidence. Not "evidamces" through. Don't know what "evidamces" are.
Qtard: Yap. That is "Truth" usual among Religious Bonkers... like that same Christians, or any other religion followers.
Bullshit. Qtard lied about there being no hard evidence. Brings up its "Religious bonker" canard AGAIN.
Qtard: Do they have ANY real evidances of Jesus living??? Naaah.
We were not discussing Jesus. Yet Qtard keeps bringing him up. Over and over like a broken record. THINKS it proves something.
Qtard: They just have many time re-edited and mangled, retranslated text... of unknown author. But... they BELIEVE IT never the less... and ready even to KILL, those who would state reasonable doubts about it being truthful.
Non sequitur that has NOTHING to do with the discussion at hand.
Qtard: And that Derpy asks me why I call it Religious Bonker??? **moronic laughter**
No, I know. The reason is Qtard is an idiot.
Qtard: \\Qtard redefining "escalate" by ADDING "respond to something" to it. ... \\*I*... EXPLAINED my reasoning behind EACH of this cases. Reasoning you never have courage to oppose to, even.
Faulty reasoning doesn't give Qtard license to change dictionary definitions.
Qtard: YOU... NEVER do.
Bullshit.
Qtard: YOU, as true Religious Bonker only pointing at argument you don't like and screaming "Wrong!"(oh... that was dRump), saying "No".
Bullshit. Say only "no" once in a while. Certainly not all the time.
Qtard: Without ANY argumentation.
Lie.
Qtard: Like it should mean anything. That you baseless "no".
I never gave a baseless "no".
Isn't "BS" just another synonym for "no"?
btw - Since when does saying the phrase "faulty reasoning" ever get taken as an adequate substitute for an actual argument proving faulty reasoning"? Jes' wondrin'.
\\btw - Since when does saying the phrase "faulty reasoning" ever get taken as an adequate substitute for an actual argument proving faulty reasoning"? Jes' wondrin'.
You, gotcha. :-)))
\\The reason why is because Russia isn't interested in peace. Putin rejected the offer to withdraw
What a BIG NEWS. NOt. :-))))))))))))))
And WHEN Rush´A was interested in Peace??? In all history.
\\Use of the word "escalate" wasn't placing any blame on Ukraine. Wasn't feeding Putin's propaganda narrative. Except in Qtard's delusions.
EVEN... if it repeats liliPut´s Propaganda narrative???
\\Qtard: AND THAT IS... EXACTLY what propaganda USES when conckocting it's missives -- plausibly looking rationales.
\\Wasn't plausible. Also NOT what the article says. Qtard imagined meaning behind use of the word "escalate" that the author of the article did not mean.
Whatever.
Like, recently... someone from office of Ians Stoltanbegr blurted out something about ¨end of war in exchange for territories¨... and also have used that excuse ¨Ï didn´t mean that¨.
But.
It was perpetuation of liliPut´s Propaganda never the less.
And was rightfully backlashed as one.
Wanna repeat some OTHER liliPut´s Propaganda narrative -- about ¨need to hear ALL voices¨???
\\Nazi analogies again. Even though completely inapplicable. Because the author of the article wasn't trying to justify Russia's escalation. Or blame it on Ukraine.
Putin do.
And any such perpetuation of his narratives on the West -- direct help to him.
SAME. As perpetuation of narratives about Jews... EVEN if without supporting me, like ¨see what that Nazis saying¨ -- that was HELING HITLER -- thatś why there is that so-called neo-nazis -- because Nazi´s Narrative was spreaded and deeply rooted.
\\Qtard lies. There is no such country as "Rush'A". The escalation was orchestrated by Russia.
There is NO such country as Russia.
Historically, that is how bizantines was calling part of land and people living around Kyiv.
Then... when Kyiv was destroyed by mongols, Mos-cow dukes took that name for themself, to call themself kings.
Then, it started calling itself Russian Empire. Or Third Rome.
Then it break up. And USSR emerged. Which was not Russia (dispite what Russian Empire emigration teached your CNN reporters to think)... and only contained as part Socialistic Russian Federation.
Then... undr Gorby that Socilaistic fell out too.
And that is what remains till today as Russian Federation.
That means, Russia -- it´s a name of the Three Century Fraud. Not the name of ANY country.
And Rush´A -- that is how aborigenes calling their place of living. ;-P
Mimicing YOUR prononciation of Russia.
So... calling it Russia -- itś spreading liliPut´s narrative.
\\Isn't. Nasty propaganda narrative being discussed is that Russia was on the verge of accepting a peace deal but the USA said "no".
Only lately.
Out of desperation liliPut fell to that trick too.
I confirm.
But all other narratives he keep spreading too...
\\Qtard: War against Ukraine started in 2014... and continued ALL THIS TIME. How IS THAT "rapidly"???\\Wikipedia: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine began on the morning of 24 February 2022". Bull Shit.
\\Proven objective point-to-reality FACT.
Yep.
That that is liliPut´s narrative it started spreading in that day... to justify its war.
\\Qtard: You mean some blurts of some anonimous writer/editor of Wikipedia is MORE IMPORTANT than FACTS of Rush'A's Invasion into Ukraine???
\\No "blurt". Fact that can be confirmed by MANY sources. Not just Wikipedia.
¨Sources¨ filled to the brims with liliPutś Propaganda?
Do you know how many billions liliPut throwed in into that ¨sources¨????
Because HE know that Propaganda works the best -- EXACTLY when people hear it ¨confirmed by MANY sources¨.
\\Believe in facts that are facts.
Even though facts do not need to be believed? ;-P
\\Qtard doesn't know facts. Admitted it itself. By saying the full scale invasion of Ukraine didn't happen on 2/24/2022. Covering for Putin? Happily eating Putin's poop?
And you know it being fact?
Because what?
Because liliPut in the morning of that day early started its press-conferation and diclared ¨full scale invasion¨?
Isn´t it?
So... you taking heinous liar liliPut¨s words as granted and as factual Truth.
And WHO ARE YOU, if not liliPut´s Useful Idiot??? :-))))))))))))))))))))
\\Used to blame Russia, but the bonker says it was used to accuse Ukraine and feed Putin's propaganda narrative.
¨Used to blame¨??? With exactly SAME phrasing as liliPut´s Propaganda spreading???
That that is ¨bloody escalation¨ of an alleged ¨civil war¨ of Ukrainians against eastern ¨rebels¨.
THAT IS EXACTLY what liliPut CLAIMED in that morning of 24th of February, 2022.
And YOU. On the West... keep repeating it.
SAME as you was repeating that Hitlerś lie, that Poland attacked Germany.
\\I don't know about Qtard's unsourced allegation. Didn't hear about it (if it happened).
Yap.
You DO NOT know basic facts... but still claim that they do not exist.
\\Do know that Obama and Biden consider the Russian annexation of Crimea to be illegal.
Whatever.
They did NOTHING to prevent it. Or punish liliPut for it, for the least.
\\Putin narrative NOT pushed. Even "subliminally". Not pushed AT ALL. Refuted.
Yep.
Thjrough that childish ¨la-la-la, I don´t hear you, la-la-la, I don´t listen to you¨. :-))))))))))))
\\Article was written by a republican, btw. Previously Qtard blamed Democrats for the situation in Ukraine and
Based on facts.
Obama DID NOT punished liliPut. Biden did not stopped it.
Both are Democratic POTUSES, isn¨t it?
And Democrats SUPPORT their POTUSES... in all their (mis)deeds, isn´t it?
\\Appeasing of Hitler done by USA republicans. Similar to how (now, again) republiturds are appeasing Putin.
Oh, yes?
And what was the name of POTUS in that time? And which alignment he had?
\\Qtard: \\The violence only escalated after Qtard pointed to it?\\... Yawn. Gibberish.
\\My comment concerned what Qtard wrote. Qtard is calling its own words "gibberish". OK, I will agree with it.
YOUR OWN WORDS in that QUOTE... but, SOMEHOW???, that is MY ONW WORDS. :-))))))))))))))
No end of idiocy demonstration, from Derpy The Idiot. :-))))))))))))))
And WHOM should believe in that idiotic make believe, I wonder??? :-))))))))))))))
Idiot making it up, completely, completely faked slurr... and want, WHAT???, what it wants??? That dumb ass... such an apparent faked make belive -- to be seen as something TRUE?????
As I have said... No End of Idiocy. :-))))))))))))))))
\\My comment concerned...
Whatever.
Nobody care what your words ¨concerned¨ about. They are words of idiot, and idiotic words.
Gibberish blurts.
Exactly as in dictionary stated. ¨Unintelligible nonsense¨. ;-P
\\Qtard: \\No. Democrats have ALWAYS said Ukrainians being Nazis is Putin's lie. Saying that Ukrainians are Nazis is Putin lie being parroted by rightturds\\Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia - George Orwell - 1984.
\\George Orwell was a Democratic Socialist.
See... YET MORE idiotic words.
Like it ¨concerns¨ anyhow given excerpt.
\\Qtard: \\The CNN article was truth-telling about a small number of self-identified Nazis in the Azov brigade\\That mean that reporter said truth... BUT, I have NO means to confirm that.
\\Because you are an idiot. Thinks "I have NO means to confirm that" allows it to dismiss any fact it does not like.
Inability to confirm that this or that fact EXIST. Can mean that that fact DO NOT exist.
As that is IMPOSSIBLE to confirm existance of something... that DO NOT.
And.
Believeing in fact... WITHOUT CONFIRMATION...
Well, that is pretty much ALL what Religious Bonkers do.
Yep, Derpy.
And Thank YOU.
For such a thorough and transparent CONFIRMATION of that EXISTING fact -- that you are Religious Bonker -- who eager to ¨believe in facts¨... even if they DO NOT exist. ;-P
\\Qtard: And it... states something OPPOSITE to what I know as facts.
\\"Know" how? From your delusions?
From my personal first-hand experiences. From percieving some apparent facts. From examining and cross-examinging em with use of my mind.
Well, from that same sources ANY smart person take it´s understanding of Reality and bases own opinion on.
But, yeah... it all can be seen as ¨delusions¨... for an idiot. ;-P
\\Qtard: Such "truth-telling", which is NOT supported by some HARD evidances -- that is what LIES of propaganda consist of.
\\IS supported by hard evidence.
\\"The militia [Azov Battalion] was founded by Andriy Biletsky, an ultra-nationalist political figure who previously led groups including the openly neo-Nazi Social-National Assembly (SNA), which preached an ideology of racial purity for Ukraine". link.
Thank you for this example of Demn propaganda.
Or what??? That CBS is republiturd too??? :-))))))))))))
\\Qtard: \\Unfortunate truth, but a truth nonetheless. Can't be denied by intellectually honest individuals like myself\\Aha... "truth", that do not need to be confirmed, by some HARD and SOLID material evidamces.
\\Confirmed by solid hard evidence.
Solid and hard... but NOT materisl? Am I grasping your response here correctly?
\\Bullshit. Qtard lied about there being no hard evidence.
Of existance of Jesus? ;-P
\\We were not discussing Jesus. Yet Qtard keeps bringing him up. Over and over like a broken record. THINKS it proves something.
Yep.
You are right.
And logical.
UNexistance -- proves nothing. ;-P
Only EXISTANCE proves.
Unexistant stone CANNOT fall on ones head and kill. EXISTING stone -- CAN, and WILL.
THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE -- between HARD and SOLID material fact.
And some nonsense. ;-P
\\Qtard: \\Qtard redefining "escalate" by ADDING "respond to something" to it. ... \\*I*... EXPLAINED my reasoning behind EACH of this cases. Reasoning you never have courage to oppose to, even.
\\Faulty reasoning doesn't give Qtard license to change dictionary definitions.
Hmmm... but that was EXAMPLES OF USAGE from dictionary exactly.
So... you just again trying to oppose to definitions given to you from dictionaries.
Am I right with understanding what you are trying to do here?
Dismis dictinaries as source for meaning of words? ;-P
\\Qtard: Like it should mean anything. That you baseless "no".
\\I never gave a baseless "no".
¨No¨ that goes alone. Without ANY additional explanation. Is baseless.
Your Captain Obvious.
HOW it can be called based on something -- when there is NOTHING under, around or behind it. ;-P
Qtard: \\"Know" how? From your delusions?\\From my personal first-hand experiences. From percieving some apparent facts. From examining and cross-examinging em with use of my mind.
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
And what makes liar to laugh so much? People's ability discern Reality for themself?
Go figure... ;-P
And how masterfully (NOT) liar avoided to answer to other questions.
Must be that is why it devised to use that stooopid dodge -- faked laughter.
YET ONE time proving INABILITY to devise its own arguments. ;-P
No Derp's ravings?
Qtard: And what makes liar to laugh so much?
Why are you asking me? Does the liar Qtard not know why it laughs?
Qtard: People's ability discern Reality for themself?
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
You're referring to your ability to imagine your own "reality"?
Reality confirmed with facts, factual quotes?
Isn't it the Truth that Derpy here ONLY keep confirming that it uses NewSpeak.
In which "Reality... it's Delusion". And "Delusion (of certain someone) it's Reality!!!"
"...keep confirming that it uses NewSpeak".
Impossible. Given that I have never newspoke.
"In which Reality... it's Delusion".
For Qtard... Obviously.
"And Delusion (of certain someone) it's Reality!!!"
Certain someone = Qtard.
And we know from previous NewSpeaches of Derpy that it likes to call itself Qtard... :-))))))))))))))))))))))))0000000
CONFIRMED!
I have never called myself "Qtard". That is YOUR nickname. Also, I am not an "it".
...and "Minus" is your NewSpeak nickname for -FJ. Same difference.
Impossible. Given that I have never newspoke.
BWAH!
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