Shortly after he entered office, Trump signed an executive order that barred appointees from any lobbying related to their agency for five years, in addition to a lifetime ban on lobbying for a foreign government. Every Trump appointee was required to sign a pledge agreeing to those rules. But in a last-minute move early Wednesday, Trump reversed the order and allowed the revolving door in Washington to continue swinging.
That isn't what happened. tRump signed an executive order that barred appointees from any lobbying related to their agency for five years AT THE START OF HIS TERM. People who joined his administration signed and agreed they wouldn't lobby. How do you apply pressure by saying "I won't work for you" AFTER YOU ALREADY DID??
"Regulate, regulate, regulate, censor"...
Yeah, who cares about protecting the public from greedy corporations cutting corners or liars spreading covid disinformation? That isn't government's job. Being poisoned by greedy rich leeches and dying due to believing covid disinformation is our right!
\\Blogger -FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said... How do you like this one, Q?
Dunno.
From my perspective... that is just tribalism and echo-chambers.
Maybe because of THAT feeling of solitude. But I, as foreigner, cannot discern it.
\\Regulate, regulate, regulate, censor...
Well... inner censure (Oruel-style) is the best. ;-P
\\Yeah, who cares about protecting the public from greedy corporations cutting corners or liars spreading covid disinformation? That isn't government's job. Being poisoned by greedy rich leeches and dying due to believing covid disinformation is our right!
So... being conditioned with propaganda is better?
I... who spent enough years of life in counrty with such thorough condinitioning -- do not think so. Naturally. ;-P
Protecting citizens and consumers from harm doesn't involve being "conditioned by propaganda".
"conditioned by propaganda" = Qtard.
prop·a·gan·da noun 1. information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
For example, Qtard loves anti-vax propaganda and climate change denial propaganda. And (of course) donald tRump's "I'm being persecuted for political reasons" propaganda.
Qtard didn't even try to refute my truthful points. I assume because he silently agrees with my smart comment. At least he has the balls to admit being an idiot.
Qtard: No answer to damning questions. Like "who voted for Founding Fathers?"
Asked and answered. I say you PRETEND not to remember this. You lie in this manner frequently.
I said they were elected by the citizens of the colonies. Minus FJ said they were appointed. Either way they were official representatives. Unlike the J6 insurrectionists. Nobody voted for or appointed them.
Also, you just recently said that J6 was not like the American Revolution. You said it was like the Boston Tea Party. Neither is true, however. It was a insurrection attempt by a mob of magamorons and White Supremacists. They wanted to overturn the results of a free and fair election.
The American Revolution was about "taxation without representation". J6 rioters had the right to vote (unless any were felons). J6 trumpturds were not being denied representation.
Confirmation of already known as fact observation -- Qtard is an idiot.
Qtard: \\I said they were elected by the citizens of the colonies.\\To perform revolution?
To represent them. Duh.
Qtard: \\Unlike the J6 insurrectionists. Nobody voted for or appointed them.\\And why they needed to? They was just walking by streets.
"Just walking by streets" doesn't involve hand-to-hand combat with police officers. The streets didn't go inside the Capitol building.
Qtard: Do walking by streets needs some special permission?
There is no "special permission" people can receive to attack the Capitol. Or enter closed government buildings.
Qtard: And that called "democracy"?
No. Attacking the Capitol isn't democracy. Despite Qtard's moronic claim that it is.
Qtard: And what about BLM riots?
No BLM peaceful protest was ever held expecting overturning democracy would be the result. Rioting is illegal. Rioters were arrested.
Qtard: \\Also, you just recently said that J6 was not like the American Revolution.\\Yep. I was forced to. As you are idiot, and do not understand such an obvious things by itself.
I understood the J6 insurrection was not like the American Revolution ALL ALONG. Qtard previously said it was like the American revolution. Now Qtard adopts its fellow trumpturd Minus FJ's stupidity. It was like the tea party.
Qtard: \\It was a insurrection attempt by a mob of magamorons and White Supremacists. They wanted to overturn the results of a free and fair election.\\Or so is how Demn Propaganda calls it.
Bullshit. They said themselves they thought the riot was like 1776. Rioters themselves expressed support for White Supremacy.
trumpturd "Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert referred to Jan. 6 as Republicans' 1776 moment".
Qtard: That is natural for propaganda -- to call names and pass blame -- on enemies.
Agreed. What Qtard JUST did. Blame Democrats for what republicans and tRump supporters did.
Qtard: \\Confirmation of already known as fact observation -- Qtard is an idiot.\\Oh, yeah? And how it connects, from standpoint of Logic???
Logic that says trump-supporting Capitol Rioters self-identifying as White Supremacists isn't "Demn propaganda".
Qtard: For now... you demonstrated only your idiotic DISlogic.
Qtard has demonstrated IT'S illogic.
Qtard: Like 1) something-somthing (alegedly, even if counter-factual) your opponent did. 2) that means your opponent is... magaturd, racist, white supremacist, etc.
Factually did. Proof riot occured (not just walking by the street, but attacking police officers and entering capitol) exists. Many hours of video footage prove it happened.
Qtard: That is clearly NON-logical inference. Another word. Whimsical. Magical. Religious thinking.
Naah. That's just an idiot's idiotic lies.
Qtard like something to be not be a riot. Qtard declares that something is "just walking by streets".
The Boston Tea Party was (as per Qtard illogic) "just walking by docks".
Qtard: Like 1) I believe that there is mighty Gawd who'd be pleasing me... if I'd pray to it. 2) I prayed to a Gawd... and it pleased me. Simple circular reasoning ... which CANNOT lead to a true conclusions -- only to delugion of such.
I have never been pleased by Gawd. Or God. Or used that "circular reasoning". Unlike Qtard. Who... [1] don't like that tRump colluded with Rasha. [2] Call evidence that tRump colluded with Rasha "Demn propaganda". Even though tRump admitted collusion ("Obama spied on me").
Qtard: Endemic among population of people known as idiots.
Yes. Call them idiots because they are. Or they could be called qtards. That is a notion that works.
\\Qtard: \\I said they were elected by the citizens of the colonies.\\To perform revolution?
\\To represent them. Duh.
To commit crimes in their stead? ;-P
\\"Just walking by streets" doesn't involve hand-to-hand combat with police officers.
Well... George Floyd thought so too...
\\There is no "special permission" people can receive to attack the Capitol. Or enter closed government buildings.
I gave that links in other thread -- that Capitol is, literaly, "free for admission".
\\Qtard: And that called "democracy"?
\\No. Attacking the Capitol isn't democracy. Despite Qtard's moronic claim that it is.
AGAIN.
Question mark. But I agree with you -- setting ad hok restrictions -- that is not democracy.
\\No BLM peaceful protest was ever held expecting overturning democracy would be the result. Rioting is illegal. Rioters were arrested.
So the same as 6Jaiers.
\\I understood the J6 insurrection was not like the American Revolution ALL ALONG. Qtard previously said it was like the American revolution.
And you can find proper quote.
Or provide some rational logical explanation -- HOW it could be the case?
Naaah. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\Bullshit. They said themselves they thought the riot was like 1776. Rioters themselves expressed support for White Supremacy.
So??? Rivering your war for Independence and Founding Fathjers -- it's White Suprematism? ;-P
\\Logic that says trump-supporting Capitol Rioters self-identifying as White Supremacists isn't "Demn propaganda".
Cause??? It's liliPut's propaganda???
Or just totalitarian propaganda -- for people forgot what Democracy is about, forgot about their Human Rights? <---- Question mark, HERE
\\Qtard has demonstrated IT'S illogic.
Yawn.
And IT... can demonstrate... with facts and logical inference... how it is "illogic"??? :-)))))))))))))))))))))))
Naaah. ;-P
IT just calls "illogic" something, anything it dislikes... because its disliking is the base of its dislogic.
All in accordance with previously made conclusions. Flawless logic!
\\Qtard: Like 1) something-somthing (alegedly, even if counter-factual) your opponent did. 2) that means your opponent is... magaturd, racist, white supremacist, etc.
\\Factually did. Proof riot occured (not just walking by the street, but attacking police officers and entering capitol) exists. Many hours of video footage prove it happened.
Was they carrying banners saying "White Supremacists"? No.
\\Qtard: That is clearly NON-logical inference. Another word. Whimsical. Magical. Religious thinking.
\\Naah. That's just an idiot's idiotic lies.
\\Qtard like something to be not be a riot. Qtard declares that something is "just walking by streets".
\\The Boston Tea Party was (as per Qtard illogic) "just walking by docks".
So... with this... do you agree that Founding Fathers was criminal who tryed to aprise against King? ;-P
Seems like you are, here.
\\I have never been pleased by Gawd. Or God. Or used that "circular reasoning". Unlike Qtard.
Yap.
Cause you are idiot.
And do not understand hypothetical reasoning.
Yawn.
That's why it's impossible to see circular reasoning in own words.
Like "I believe in facts", but if there is fact "I do not like to believe -- it do not exist". ;-P
Like fact that you are idiot. ;-P
\\ Who... [1] don't like that tRump colluded with Rasha. [2] Call evidence that tRump colluded with Rasha "Demn propaganda". Even though tRump admitted collusion ("Obama spied on me").
It doesn't matter who and what admitted. Because that is only in totalitarian countries -- confession can be base for persecution. In democratic countries there exist laws AGAINST self-blaming.
And... there STILL no trial. And NO results of that trial.
And that is FACT... magical thinker Derpy do not like, and therefore -- do not believe into. ;-P
\\Yes. Call them idiots because they are. Or they could be called qtards. That is a notion that works.
Gibberish again. :-)))))
What "works"???
But well, I am glad that you do able to admit existance of idiots... even though you trying hard to oppose your own alegiancy to that "noble" caste. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Qtard: \\I said they were elected by the citizens of the colonies.\\To perform revolution?\\To represent them. Duh\\To commit crimes in their stead?
As far as the King was concerned. But why do you keep bringing up the American revolution? As if there is some comparison to be made with what happened on January 6th. There is not. Because the American Revolution brought about democracy. While, had the J6 insurrectionists been successful, that would have ended democracy. They are opposites. A revolution to bring about democracy versus a insurrection to end democracy.
Qtard: \\"Just walking by streets" doesn't involve hand-to-hand combat with police officers\\Well... George Floyd thought so too...
George Floyd didn't engage in hand-to-hand combat with any police officers. He tried to comply with a police officer's demands and was murdered. Whereas the J6 insurrectionists DID fight with the police. And injure many of them. George Floyd did not injure any police officers. He was the victim, not the aggressor. J6 insurrectionists were the aggressors.
Qtard: I gave that links in other thread -- that Capitol is, literaly, "free for admission".
The Capitol was CLOSED that day. Due to covid and because of what was going on. Admission was denied that day. btw, you gave links concerning the White House. The Capitol is a different building complex. Sounds like you're buying the false "tourist" narrative. Tourists don't fight with police and break doors and windows. They don't commit acts of vandalism.
Qtard: \\Attacking the Capitol isn't democracy\\But I agree with you -- setting ad hok restrictions -- that is not democracy.
We disagree. There is no condition for democracy that all public buildings must be open to the public at all times. Temporary restricted access to public buildings isn't an infringement of democracy. Proven by the fact that no lawyer of any J6 defendant gave this qtarded idiocy as a defense.
Qtard: \\No BLM peaceful protest was ever held expecting overturning democracy would be the result. Rioting is illegal. Rioters were arrested\\So the same as 6Jaiers.
Sure. People who listened to dotard donald and others speaking but did not illegally enter the Capitol were not arrested.
Qtard: \\I understood the J6 insurrection was not like the American Revolution ALL ALONG. Qtard previously said it was like the American revolution\\And you can find proper quote.
Why? You KNOW you said it.
Qtard: Or provide some rational logical explanation -- HOW it could be the case?
Because those were your words. Control-F won't work. Because you said them MANY posts ago. You were so adamant. How was I to know you'd later deny what you wrote?
Qtard: \\They said themselves they thought the riot was like 1776. Rioters themselves expressed support for White Supremacy\\So??? Rivering your war for Independence and Founding Fathjers -- it's White Suprematism?
WTF? No. It was a desire for independence. Because of injustice of "taxation without representation". There was no injustice J6 rioters were rebelling against. ONLY sore loser disappointment.
Qtard: \\Logic that says trump-supporting Capitol Rioters self-identifying as White Supremacists isn't "Demn propaganda"\\Cause??? It's liliPut's propaganda???
No. It is what they believe. By their own admission.
Qtard: Or just totalitarian propaganda -- for people forgot what Democracy is about, forgot about their Human Rights? <---- Question mark, HERE
No. Nobody "forgot" that insurrectionists have the "human right" to try and overturn the results of an election they don't like. Because they have no such right. I cited John Locke, remember? He wrote that a right of revolution was conditional upon a long series of injustices.
Qtard: \\Qtard has demonstrated IT'S illogic\\Yawn. And IT... can demonstrate... with facts and logical inference... how it is "illogic"??? Naaah.
Yes. Already did. Many times. Just above, for example. There is no "human right" for sore losers to overturn the results of a fair democratic election.
Qtard: IT just calls "illogic" something, anything it dislikes... because its disliking is the base of its dislogic. All in accordance with previously made conclusions. Flawless logic!
Bigly flawed.
Qtard: Was they carrying banners saying "White Supremacists"? No.
Qtard: That is your own shaming labeling. The same as in that Mark Twain's text.
No. Factual labeling. Established by people self identifying as White Supremacists.
Qtard: \\The Boston Tea Party was (as per Qtard illogic) "just walking by docks"\\So... with this... do you agree that Founding Fathers was criminal who tryed to aprise against King?
Destruction of private property is a crime, yes. But, AGAIN, there is no comparison between a riot to overturn democracy and an act of vandalism in opposition to taxation without representation.
Qtard: ...Like "I believe in facts", but if there is fact "I do not like to believe -- it do not exist".
Fake quote!! I never said that because I do not believe that. That is what Qtard believes. For example, Qtard does not like to believe that some J6 insurrectionists self-identified as White Supremacists. Therefore they aren't. Even though they THEMSELVES say they are (ditto Ukrainian Azov Brigade soldiers).
Human Rights Watch says "Rioters blatantly and proudly hurled racial slurs against Capitol Police officers. Many waved the Confederate battle flag, long a symbol for southern states that supported slavery and those promoting post-Civil War racist policies. Gallows and nooses that recalled the lynchings of Black people appeared on and around the Capitol grounds — so many symbols of racial hatred that the Washington Post compiled a list of many that were witnessed that day. Taken together, they lead to one overarching conclusion: that the January 6 attacks had much to do with race in America".
Qtard: It doesn't matter who and what admitted. Because that is only in totalitarian countries -- confession can be base for persecution.
False. Confessions CAN be a basis for prosecution.
Qtard: In democratic countries there exist laws AGAINST self-blaming.
Cite the law. The Fifth Amendment provides protection to individuals from being compelled to incriminate themselves. COMPELLED. If individual confesses of their own volition -- then such incriminating statements CAN and ARE used against such a defendant. Qtard says otherwise because it is COMPLETELY clueless.
Qtard: And... there STILL no trial. And NO results of that trial.
Indictments have been handed down. Trials have been scheduled. dotard donald will show up in court and face charges in multiple trials.
Qtard: And that is FACT... magical thinker Derpy do not like, and therefore -- do not believe into.
That there has been no trial of donald tRump (excepting the E. Jean Carroll trial)? Qtard is a magical thinker. Qtard magically believes I disbelieve undeniable facts.
Qtard: \\Yes. Call them idiots because they are. Or they could be called qtards. That is a notion that works\\Gibberish again. What "works"?
Gibberish is smart words the idiot Qtard doesn't understand. YOU said you could make up words and call them a "notion". Forgot?
Qtard: ...I am glad that you do able to admit existance of idiots... even though you trying hard to oppose your own alegiancy to that "noble" caste.
I accept the existence of qtards. YES. Qtard (an idiot) exists. Not noble though. In the least.
\\Because the American Revolution brought about democracy. While, had the J6 insurrectionists been successful, that would have ended democracy. They are opposites.
That is... just your opinion.
\\George Floyd didn't engage in hand-to-hand combat with any police officers.
Yep.
THEY did it.
To him.
\\He tried to comply with a police officer's demands and was murdered. Whereas the J6 insurrectionists DID fight with the police
ALL of them???
That is illogical BS.
SOME people could, and as I heard did... but, I never investigated it too much -- was they consciosly came to "overthrow government".
From all I saw... from afar... and from history cases I know.
That was just a spontaneous meeting. Not riot even.
As that of Yellow Jackets... or, whatever.
But your govrnment... and one of political forces -- Dems, decided to call it "attempt to overthrow government".
Well... nothing new.
\\The Capitol was CLOSED that day. Due to covid and because of what was going on. Admission was denied that day. btw, you gave links concerning the White House. The Capitol is a different building complex. Sounds like you're buying the false "tourist" narrative.
I properly pointed to that FACTS.
Of difference in access rules.
Well... about it being closed in that day... ordinary people could not know that, or be enraged and see it unfair...
That's, just how people are...
\\We disagree. There is no condition for democracy that all public buildings must be open to the public at all times. Temporary restricted access to public buildings isn't an infringement of democracy.
But it can add to that "feeling of continuous oppression"...
\\Sure. People who listened to dotard donald and others speaking but did not illegally enter the Capitol were not arrested.
That's it.
\\Qtard: \\I understood the J6 insurrection was not like the American Revolution ALL ALONG. Qtard previously said it was like the American revolution\\And you can find proper quote.
\\Why? You KNOW you said it.
*I* said... that that is historical analogy.
And ALSO *I* said... that you are idiot, and idiots cannot understand what historical analogy is.
\\WTF? No. It was a desire for independence. Because of injustice of "taxation without representation". There was no injustice J6 rioters were rebelling against. ONLY sore loser disappointment.
That... you cannot know.
\\No. Nobody "forgot" that insurrectionists have the "human right" to try and overturn the results of an election they don't like. Because they have no such right. I cited John Locke, remember? He wrote that a right of revolution was conditional upon a long series of injustices.
And who said it was Revolution?
\\Yes. Already did. Many times. Just above, for example. There is no "human right" for sore losers to overturn the results of a fair democratic election.
Like anybody claimed something like that.
But... there is Natural Human Right -- to decide for themself.
\\Bigly flawed.
And you can show how???
Can lead it to contradiction?
Can show what rules of logic was broken?
Naaaaah.
Cause you are miserly brain-damaged idiot. :-))))))))))))))
\\Some of them were. See picture here. Also wore a T-shirt declaring White Supremacy. Picture here.
Whatever.
I don't care.
\\No. Factual labeling. Established by people self identifying as White Supremacists.
Whatever.
\\Qtard: ...Like "I believe in facts", but if there is fact "I do not like to believe -- it do not exist".
\\Fake quote!! I never said that because I do not believe that. That is what Qtard believes. For example,
Tch-tch-tch.
Re-enactment.
I just need to make it THAT simple, for your idiotic mind to understand -- how do it looks like -- your behavior.
When you proudly declaring "I believe in facts".
But then -- when absoluitely open and obvious fact provided to you -- you start screaming opposite to it.
What else explanation there could be -- if not that your "I believe in facts" just mean that you inclined to leave a lots of spaces, a lot a freedom -- to believe, or not believe... in facts??? ;-)
\\Qtard does not like to believe that some J6 insurrectionists self-identified as White Supremacists.
I... just don't care.
I am -- foreigner. And that your inner political labels -- is just meaningless to me.
Naturally.
\\Even though they THEMSELVES say they are (ditto Ukrainian Azov Brigade soldiers).
""The Azov Assault Brigade (Ukrainian: Штурмова бригада «Азов», romanized: Shturmova bryhada "Azov") is a formation of the National Guard of Ukraine ""
Yap... "they call themself" National Guard of Ukraine... and that means that they are Nazis???? :-))))))
Similarly, in an interview with Israeli newspaper Haaretz, Azov deputy commander Svyatoslav Palamar denied the regiment being a neo-Nazi formation and said: ""What is Nazism? When someone thinks that one nation is superior to another nation, when someone thinks he has a right to invade another country and destroy its inhabitants... We believe in our country's territorial integrity. We have never attacked anyone, and we have not wanted to do that."[276]
\\Human Rights Watch says "Rioters blatantly and proudly hurled racial slurs against Capitol Police officers. Many waved the Confederate battle flag, long a symbol for southern states that supported slavery and those promoting post-Civil War racist policies. Gallows and nooses that recalled the lynchings of Black people appeared on and around the Capitol grounds — so many symbols of racial hatred that the Washington Post compiled a list of many that were witnessed that day. Taken together, they lead to one overarching conclusion: that the January 6 attacks had much to do with race in America".
Propaganda.
Yawn.
\\Qtard: It doesn't matter who and what admitted. Because that is only in totalitarian countries -- confession can be base for persecution.
\\False. Confessions CAN be a basis for prosecution.
Yap.
Like in totalitarian countries. ;-P
\\Qtard: In democratic countries there exist laws AGAINST self-blaming.
\\Cite the law. The Fifth Amendment provides protection to individuals from being compelled to incriminate themselves. COMPELLED. If individual confesses of their own volition
Ha-ha-ha... al is simple, just point gun at him... and it will do it. "Out of their own volition", isn't it, De-Ru-Pi? ;-P
\\Qtard: And... there STILL no trial. And NO results of that trial.
\\Indictments have been handed down. Trials have been scheduled.
Conviniently.
To AFTER election time.
When it would not be of any importance.
\\ dotard donald will show up in court and face charges in multiple trials.
About "collusion"?
About "insurrection"?
About "attempt to overthrow government"?
\\Qtard: \\Yes. Call them idiots because they are. Or they could be called qtards. That is a notion that works\\Gibberish again. What "works"?
\\Gibberish is smart words the idiot Qtard doesn't understand. YOU said you could make up words and call them a "notion". Forgot?
Gibberish "notion"? :-))))))
Yes, it "works".
Now I see it.
Thank you for explaining. ;-P
\\I accept the existence of qtards. YES. Qtard (an idiot) exists. Not noble though. In the least.
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Trump revokes rule preventing White House staff from lobbying. After campaigning on a promise to "drain the swamp", Donald Trump ended his presidency by revoking his own rule meant to prevent White House staff from lobbying.
Shortly after he entered office, Trump signed an executive order that barred appointees from any lobbying related to their agency for five years, in addition to a lifetime ban on lobbying for a foreign government. Every Trump appointee was required to sign a pledge agreeing to those rules. But in a last-minute move early Wednesday, Trump reversed the order and allowed the revolving door in Washington to continue swinging.
Sounds like he couldn't get any Republicans from the Hoover Institute to work for him otherwise. Deep staters do love their perks.
So you're saying tRump's EO was a lie? Hoover Institute people were told beforehand that the EO was going to be cancelled? I can believe that.
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.
...
PS Accidentally tripped over it. How do you like it? ;-)
No. Hoover boycotted the EO and won.
How do you like this one, Q? Doesn't it faithfully represent the cringey whine behind almost every liberal blog post today?
Regulate, regulate, regulate, censor...
meden agan!
"No. Hoover boycotted the EO and won".
That isn't what happened. tRump signed an executive order that barred appointees from any lobbying related to their agency for five years AT THE START OF HIS TERM. People who joined his administration signed and agreed they wouldn't lobby. How do you apply pressure by saying "I won't work for you" AFTER YOU ALREADY DID??
"Regulate, regulate, regulate, censor"...
Yeah, who cares about protecting the public from greedy corporations cutting corners or liars spreading covid disinformation? That isn't government's job. Being poisoned by greedy rich leeches and dying due to believing covid disinformation is our right!
\\Blogger -FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...
How do you like this one, Q?
Dunno.
From my perspective... that is just tribalism and echo-chambers.
Maybe because of THAT feeling of solitude. But I, as foreigner, cannot discern it.
\\Regulate, regulate, regulate, censor...
Well... inner censure (Oruel-style) is the best. ;-P
\\Yeah, who cares about protecting the public from greedy corporations cutting corners or liars spreading covid disinformation? That isn't government's job. Being poisoned by greedy rich leeches and dying due to believing covid disinformation is our right!
So... being conditioned with propaganda is better?
I... who spent enough years of life in counrty with such thorough condinitioning -- do not think so. Naturally. ;-P
Protecting citizens and consumers from harm doesn't involve being "conditioned by propaganda".
"conditioned by propaganda" = Qtard.
prop·a·gan·da noun 1. information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
For example, Qtard loves anti-vax propaganda and climate change denial propaganda. And (of course) donald tRump's "I'm being persecuted for political reasons" propaganda.
I-D-I-O-T.
Yawn.
Qtard didn't even try to refute my truthful points. I assume because he silently agrees with my smart comment. At least he has the balls to admit being an idiot.
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Especialy.
\\Qtard didn't even try to refute my truthful points.
You are not just an idiot. You are complete junky-doodle. :-))))
But, NO... I will not say a word for you to stop it.
Only... continue-continue. Showing what a shamless idiot U R!!!
:-)(ad infinitum)
Qtard: You are not just an idiot. You are complete junky-doodle. ...continue. Showing what a shamless idiot U R!!!
"You" and "U" = Qtard.
Continue-continue...
Continue posting smart comments that Qtard can NOT refute? I shall.
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Yeah.
Continue. Continue-continue.
Posting SUCH "smart comments that Qtard can NOT refute" :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Which will continue confirming your idiocy. ;-P
It's called "last wordism". The person who speaks/ posts last, wins!
Naah... I just want Derpy to entertain me some more. ;-P
But it happen to run away from answering damning question.
So, I need to stirr it... a little.
Do I do something wrong? (shy)
It (Qtard) did run away from responding to damning observations.
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Where???!!!!
Where is that fun I missed??? :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))
Here.
Qtard sees being proven an idiot as "fun"? Explains why he gives me so many opportunities.
Here.
Qtard sees being proven an idiot as "fun"? Explains why he gives me so many opportunities.
So few??? :-)))))))))))))))))
Trurly. You are idiot with isiotic delusions.
With this your "Explains why he gives me so many opportunities."
Opportunities to show yourself, Derpy, being idiot??? ;-P
Continue-continue.
Hah... and as always. Lie and hypocrisy, and hypocirical lies and idiotic hypocrisy.
WHERE is fun by that link???
There is NO, NADA, ZILCH, NOTHING new here.
Just your junky-doodle babbling.
No answer to damning questions. Like "who voted for Founding Fathers?"
No new questions.
Just confirmation of alrewady known as fact ovservastion -- that you are idiot. ;-P
Qtard: No answer to damning questions. Like "who voted for Founding Fathers?"
Asked and answered. I say you PRETEND not to remember this. You lie in this manner frequently.
I said they were elected by the citizens of the colonies. Minus FJ said they were appointed. Either way they were official representatives. Unlike the J6 insurrectionists. Nobody voted for or appointed them.
Also, you just recently said that J6 was not like the American Revolution. You said it was like the Boston Tea Party. Neither is true, however. It was a insurrection attempt by a mob of magamorons and White Supremacists. They wanted to overturn the results of a free and fair election.
The American Revolution was about "taxation without representation". J6 rioters had the right to vote (unless any were felons). J6 trumpturds were not being denied representation.
Confirmation of already known as fact observation -- Qtard is an idiot.
\\I said they were elected by the citizens of the colonies.
To perform revolution? ;-P
\\Unlike the J6 insurrectionists. Nobody voted for or appointed them.
And why they needed to? They was just walking by streets.
Do walking by streets needs some special permission?
And that called "democracy"?
And what about BLM riots?
\\Also, you just recently said that J6 was not like the American Revolution.
Yep.
I was forced to.
As you are idiot, and do not understand such an obvious things by itself.
\\ It was a insurrection attempt by a mob of magamorons and White Supremacists. They wanted to overturn the results of a free and fair election.
Or so is how Demn Propaganda calls it. ;-P
That is natural for propaganda -- to call names and pass blame -- on enemies.
\\Confirmation of already known as fact observation -- Qtard is an idiot.
Oh, yeah? And how it connects, from standpoint of Logic??? ;-P
For now... you demonstrated only your idiotic DISlogic.
Like
1) something-somthing (alegedly, even if counter-factual) your opponent did.
2) that means your opponent is... magaturd, racist, white supremacist, etc.
That is clearly NON-logical inference. ;-P
Like
1) one like something to be ***
2) one declares that something is ***
Another word. Whimsical. Magical. Religious thinking.
Like
1) I believe that there is mighty Gawd who'd be pleasing me... if I'd pray to it.
2) I prayed to a Gawd... and it pleased me.
Simple circular reasoning -- falacious mode of reasoning, which CANNOT lead to a true conclusions -- only to delugion of such.
Endemic among population of people known as idiots. ;-P
Qtard: \\I said they were elected by the citizens of the colonies.\\To perform revolution?
To represent them. Duh.
Qtard: \\Unlike the J6 insurrectionists. Nobody voted for or appointed them.\\And why they needed to? They was just walking by streets.
"Just walking by streets" doesn't involve hand-to-hand combat with police officers. The streets didn't go inside the Capitol building.
Qtard: Do walking by streets needs some special permission?
There is no "special permission" people can receive to attack the Capitol. Or enter closed government buildings.
Qtard: And that called "democracy"?
No. Attacking the Capitol isn't democracy. Despite Qtard's moronic claim that it is.
Qtard: And what about BLM riots?
No BLM peaceful protest was ever held expecting overturning democracy would be the result. Rioting is illegal. Rioters were arrested.
Qtard: \\Also, you just recently said that J6 was not like the American Revolution.\\Yep.
I was forced to. As you are idiot, and do not understand such an obvious things by itself.
I understood the J6 insurrection was not like the American Revolution ALL ALONG. Qtard previously said it was like the American revolution. Now Qtard adopts its fellow trumpturd Minus FJ's stupidity. It was like the tea party.
Qtard: \\It was a insurrection attempt by a mob of magamorons and White Supremacists. They wanted to overturn the results of a free and fair election.\\Or so is how Demn Propaganda calls it.
Bullshit. They said themselves they thought the riot was like 1776. Rioters themselves expressed support for White Supremacy.
trumpturd "Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert referred to Jan. 6 as Republicans' 1776 moment".
Qtard: That is natural for propaganda -- to call names and pass blame -- on enemies.
Agreed. What Qtard JUST did. Blame Democrats for what republicans and tRump supporters did.
Qtard: \\Confirmation of already known as fact observation -- Qtard is an idiot.\\Oh, yeah? And how it connects, from standpoint of Logic???
Logic that says trump-supporting Capitol Rioters self-identifying as White Supremacists isn't "Demn propaganda".
Qtard: For now... you demonstrated only your idiotic DISlogic.
Qtard has demonstrated IT'S illogic.
Qtard: Like 1) something-somthing (alegedly, even if counter-factual) your opponent did. 2) that means your opponent is... magaturd, racist, white supremacist, etc.
Factually did. Proof riot occured (not just walking by the street, but attacking police officers and entering capitol) exists. Many hours of video footage prove it happened.
Qtard: That is clearly NON-logical inference. Another word. Whimsical. Magical. Religious thinking.
Naah. That's just an idiot's idiotic lies.
Qtard like something to be not be a riot. Qtard declares that something is "just walking by streets".
The Boston Tea Party was (as per Qtard illogic) "just walking by docks".
Qtard: Like 1) I believe that there is mighty Gawd who'd be pleasing me... if I'd pray to it. 2) I prayed to a Gawd... and it pleased me. Simple circular reasoning ... which CANNOT lead to a true conclusions -- only to delugion of such.
I have never been pleased by Gawd. Or God. Or used that "circular reasoning". Unlike Qtard. Who... [1] don't like that tRump colluded with Rasha. [2] Call evidence that tRump colluded with Rasha "Demn propaganda". Even though tRump admitted collusion ("Obama spied on me").
Qtard: Endemic among population of people known as idiots.
Yes. Call them idiots because they are. Or they could be called qtards. That is a notion that works.
\\Qtard: \\I said they were elected by the citizens of the colonies.\\To perform revolution?
\\To represent them. Duh.
To commit crimes in their stead? ;-P
\\"Just walking by streets" doesn't involve hand-to-hand combat with police officers.
Well... George Floyd thought so too...
\\There is no "special permission" people can receive to attack the Capitol. Or enter closed government buildings.
I gave that links in other thread -- that Capitol is, literaly, "free for admission".
\\Qtard: And that called "democracy"?
\\No. Attacking the Capitol isn't democracy. Despite Qtard's moronic claim that it is.
AGAIN.
Question mark.
But I agree with you -- setting ad hok restrictions -- that is not democracy.
\\No BLM peaceful protest was ever held expecting overturning democracy would be the result. Rioting is illegal. Rioters were arrested.
So the same as 6Jaiers.
\\I understood the J6 insurrection was not like the American Revolution ALL ALONG. Qtard previously said it was like the American revolution.
And you can find proper quote.
Or provide some rational logical explanation -- HOW it could be the case?
Naaah. :-))))))))))))))))))))))))
\\Bullshit. They said themselves they thought the riot was like 1776. Rioters themselves expressed support for White Supremacy.
So??? Rivering your war for Independence and Founding Fathjers -- it's White Suprematism? ;-P
\\Logic that says trump-supporting Capitol Rioters self-identifying as White Supremacists isn't "Demn propaganda".
Cause??? It's liliPut's propaganda???
Or just totalitarian propaganda -- for people forgot what Democracy is about, forgot about their Human Rights? <---- Question mark, HERE
\\Qtard has demonstrated IT'S illogic.
Yawn.
And IT... can demonstrate... with facts and logical inference... how it is "illogic"??? :-)))))))))))))))))))))))
Naaah. ;-P
IT just calls "illogic" something, anything it dislikes... because its disliking is the base of its dislogic.
All in accordance with previously made conclusions. Flawless logic!
\\Qtard: Like 1) something-somthing (alegedly, even if counter-factual) your opponent did. 2) that means your opponent is... magaturd, racist, white supremacist, etc.
\\Factually did. Proof riot occured (not just walking by the street, but attacking police officers and entering capitol) exists. Many hours of video footage prove it happened.
Was they carrying banners saying "White Supremacists"? No.
That is your own shaming labeling. ;-P
The same as in that Mark Twain's text.
\\Qtard: That is clearly NON-logical inference. Another word. Whimsical. Magical. Religious thinking.
\\Naah. That's just an idiot's idiotic lies.
\\Qtard like something to be not be a riot. Qtard declares that something is "just walking by streets".
\\The Boston Tea Party was (as per Qtard illogic) "just walking by docks".
So... with this... do you agree that Founding Fathers was criminal who tryed to aprise against King? ;-P
Seems like you are, here.
\\I have never been pleased by Gawd. Or God. Or used that "circular reasoning". Unlike Qtard.
Yap.
Cause you are idiot.
And do not understand hypothetical reasoning.
Yawn.
That's why it's impossible to see circular reasoning in own words.
Like "I believe in facts", but if there is fact "I do not like to believe -- it do not exist". ;-P
Like fact that you are idiot. ;-P
\\ Who... [1] don't like that tRump colluded with Rasha. [2] Call evidence that tRump colluded with Rasha "Demn propaganda". Even though tRump admitted collusion ("Obama spied on me").
It doesn't matter who and what admitted. Because that is only in totalitarian countries -- confession can be base for persecution.
In democratic countries there exist laws AGAINST self-blaming.
And... there STILL no trial. And NO results of that trial.
And that is FACT... magical thinker Derpy do not like, and therefore -- do not believe into. ;-P
\\Yes. Call them idiots because they are. Or they could be called qtards. That is a notion that works.
Gibberish again. :-)))))
What "works"???
But well, I am glad that you do able to admit existance of idiots... even though you trying hard to oppose your own alegiancy to that "noble" caste. :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
No Derpy's ravings? ;-P
Qtard: \\I said they were elected by the citizens of the colonies.\\To perform revolution?\\To represent them. Duh\\To commit crimes in their stead?
As far as the King was concerned. But why do you keep bringing up the American revolution? As if there is some comparison to be made with what happened on January 6th. There is not. Because the American Revolution brought about democracy. While, had the J6 insurrectionists been successful, that would have ended democracy. They are opposites. A revolution to bring about democracy versus a insurrection to end democracy.
Qtard: \\"Just walking by streets" doesn't involve hand-to-hand combat with police officers\\Well... George Floyd thought so too...
George Floyd didn't engage in hand-to-hand combat with any police officers. He tried to comply with a police officer's demands and was murdered. Whereas the J6 insurrectionists DID fight with the police. And injure many of them. George Floyd did not injure any police officers. He was the victim, not the aggressor. J6 insurrectionists were the aggressors.
Qtard: I gave that links in other thread -- that Capitol is, literaly, "free for admission".
The Capitol was CLOSED that day. Due to covid and because of what was going on. Admission was denied that day. btw, you gave links concerning the White House. The Capitol is a different building complex. Sounds like you're buying the false "tourist" narrative. Tourists don't fight with police and break doors and windows. They don't commit acts of vandalism.
Qtard: \\Attacking the Capitol isn't democracy\\But I agree with you -- setting ad hok restrictions -- that is not democracy.
We disagree. There is no condition for democracy that all public buildings must be open to the public at all times. Temporary restricted access to public buildings isn't an infringement of democracy. Proven by the fact that no lawyer of any J6 defendant gave this qtarded idiocy as a defense.
Qtard: \\No BLM peaceful protest was ever held expecting overturning democracy would be the result. Rioting is illegal. Rioters were arrested\\So the same as 6Jaiers.
Sure. People who listened to dotard donald and others speaking but did not illegally enter the Capitol were not arrested.
Qtard: \\I understood the J6 insurrection was not like the American Revolution ALL ALONG. Qtard previously said it was like the American revolution\\And you can find proper quote.
Why? You KNOW you said it.
Qtard: Or provide some rational logical explanation -- HOW it could be the case?
Because those were your words. Control-F won't work. Because you said them MANY posts ago. You were so adamant. How was I to know you'd later deny what you wrote?
Qtard: \\They said themselves they thought the riot was like 1776. Rioters themselves expressed support for White Supremacy\\So??? Rivering your war for Independence and Founding Fathjers -- it's White Suprematism?
WTF? No. It was a desire for independence. Because of injustice of "taxation without representation". There was no injustice J6 rioters were rebelling against. ONLY sore loser disappointment.
Qtard: \\Logic that says trump-supporting Capitol Rioters self-identifying as White Supremacists isn't "Demn propaganda"\\Cause??? It's liliPut's propaganda???
No. It is what they believe. By their own admission.
Qtard: Or just totalitarian propaganda -- for people forgot what Democracy is about, forgot about their Human Rights? <---- Question mark, HERE
No. Nobody "forgot" that insurrectionists have the "human right" to try and overturn the results of an election they don't like. Because they have no such right. I cited John Locke, remember? He wrote that a right of revolution was conditional upon a long series of injustices.
Qtard: \\Qtard has demonstrated IT'S illogic\\Yawn. And IT... can demonstrate... with facts and logical inference... how it is "illogic"??? Naaah.
Yes. Already did. Many times. Just above, for example. There is no "human right" for sore losers to overturn the results of a fair democratic election.
Qtard: IT just calls "illogic" something, anything it dislikes... because its disliking is the base of its dislogic. All in accordance with previously made conclusions. Flawless logic!
Bigly flawed.
Qtard: Was they carrying banners saying "White Supremacists"? No.
Some of them were. See picture here. Also wore a T-shirt declaring White Supremacy. Picture here.
Qtard: That is your own shaming labeling. The same as in that Mark Twain's text.
No. Factual labeling. Established by people self identifying as White Supremacists.
Qtard: \\The Boston Tea Party was (as per Qtard illogic) "just walking by docks"\\So... with this... do you agree that Founding Fathers was criminal who tryed to aprise against King?
Destruction of private property is a crime, yes. But, AGAIN, there is no comparison between a riot to overturn democracy and an act of vandalism in opposition to taxation without representation.
Qtard: ...Like "I believe in facts", but if there is fact "I do not like to believe -- it do not exist".
Fake quote!! I never said that because I do not believe that. That is what Qtard believes. For example, Qtard does not like to believe that some J6 insurrectionists self-identified as White Supremacists. Therefore they aren't. Even though they THEMSELVES say they are (ditto Ukrainian Azov Brigade soldiers).
Human Rights Watch says "Rioters blatantly and proudly hurled racial slurs against Capitol Police officers. Many waved the Confederate battle flag, long a symbol for southern states that supported slavery and those promoting post-Civil War racist policies. Gallows and nooses that recalled the lynchings of Black people appeared on and around the Capitol grounds — so many symbols of racial hatred that the Washington Post compiled a list of many that were witnessed that day. Taken together, they lead to one overarching conclusion: that the January 6 attacks had much to do with race in America".
Qtard: Like fact that you are idiot.
Like fact that Qtard is an idiot.
Qtard: It doesn't matter who and what admitted. Because that is only in totalitarian countries -- confession can be base for persecution.
False. Confessions CAN be a basis for prosecution.
Qtard: In democratic countries there exist laws AGAINST self-blaming.
Cite the law. The Fifth Amendment provides protection to individuals from being compelled to incriminate themselves. COMPELLED. If individual confesses of their own volition -- then such incriminating statements CAN and ARE used against such a defendant. Qtard says otherwise because it is COMPLETELY clueless.
Qtard: And... there STILL no trial. And NO results of that trial.
Indictments have been handed down. Trials have been scheduled. dotard donald will show up in court and face charges in multiple trials.
Qtard: And that is FACT... magical thinker Derpy do not like, and therefore -- do not believe into.
That there has been no trial of donald tRump (excepting the E. Jean Carroll trial)? Qtard is a magical thinker. Qtard magically believes I disbelieve undeniable facts.
Qtard: \\Yes. Call them idiots because they are. Or they could be called qtards. That is a notion that works\\Gibberish again. What "works"?
Gibberish is smart words the idiot Qtard doesn't understand. YOU said you could make up words and call them a "notion". Forgot?
Qtard: ...I am glad that you do able to admit existance of idiots... even though you trying hard to oppose your own alegiancy to that "noble" caste.
I accept the existence of qtards. YES. Qtard (an idiot) exists. Not noble though. In the least.
\\Because the American Revolution brought about democracy. While, had the J6 insurrectionists been successful, that would have ended democracy. They are opposites.
That is... just your opinion.
\\George Floyd didn't engage in hand-to-hand combat with any police officers.
Yep.
THEY did it.
To him.
\\He tried to comply with a police officer's demands and was murdered. Whereas the J6 insurrectionists DID fight with the police
ALL of them???
That is illogical BS.
SOME people could, and as I heard did... but, I never investigated it too much -- was they consciosly came to "overthrow government".
From all I saw... from afar... and from history cases I know.
That was just a spontaneous meeting. Not riot even.
As that of Yellow Jackets... or, whatever.
But your govrnment... and one of political forces -- Dems, decided to call it "attempt to overthrow government".
Well... nothing new.
\\The Capitol was CLOSED that day. Due to covid and because of what was going on. Admission was denied that day. btw, you gave links concerning the White House. The Capitol is a different building complex. Sounds like you're buying the false "tourist" narrative.
I properly pointed to that FACTS.
Of difference in access rules.
Well... about it being closed in that day... ordinary people could not know that, or be enraged and see it unfair...
That's, just how people are...
\\We disagree. There is no condition for democracy that all public buildings must be open to the public at all times. Temporary restricted access to public buildings isn't an infringement of democracy.
But it can add to that "feeling of continuous oppression"...
\\Sure. People who listened to dotard donald and others speaking but did not illegally enter the Capitol were not arrested.
That's it.
\\Qtard: \\I understood the J6 insurrection was not like the American Revolution ALL ALONG. Qtard previously said it was like the American revolution\\And you can find proper quote.
\\Why? You KNOW you said it.
*I* said... that that is historical analogy.
And ALSO *I* said... that you are idiot, and idiots cannot understand what historical analogy is.
Both stands still and true.
\\WTF? No. It was a desire for independence. Because of injustice of "taxation without representation". There was no injustice J6 rioters were rebelling against. ONLY sore loser disappointment.
That... you cannot know.
\\No. Nobody "forgot" that insurrectionists have the "human right" to try and overturn the results of an election they don't like. Because they have no such right. I cited John Locke, remember? He wrote that a right of revolution was conditional upon a long series of injustices.
And who said it was Revolution?
\\Yes. Already did. Many times. Just above, for example. There is no "human right" for sore losers to overturn the results of a fair democratic election.
Like anybody claimed something like that.
But... there is Natural Human Right -- to decide for themself.
\\Bigly flawed.
And you can show how???
Can lead it to contradiction?
Can show what rules of logic was broken?
Naaaaah.
Cause you are miserly brain-damaged idiot. :-))))))))))))))
\\Some of them were. See picture here. Also wore a T-shirt declaring White Supremacy. Picture here.
Whatever.
I don't care.
\\No. Factual labeling. Established by people self identifying as White Supremacists.
Whatever.
\\Qtard: ...Like "I believe in facts", but if there is fact "I do not like to believe -- it do not exist".
\\Fake quote!! I never said that because I do not believe that. That is what Qtard believes. For example,
Tch-tch-tch.
Re-enactment.
I just need to make it THAT simple, for your idiotic mind to understand -- how do it looks like -- your behavior.
When you proudly declaring "I believe in facts".
But then -- when absoluitely open and obvious fact provided to you -- you start screaming opposite to it.
What else explanation there could be -- if not that your "I believe in facts" just mean that you inclined to leave a lots of spaces, a lot a freedom -- to believe, or not believe... in facts??? ;-)
\\Qtard does not like to believe that some J6 insurrectionists self-identified as White Supremacists.
I... just don't care.
I am -- foreigner. And that your inner political labels -- is just meaningless to me.
Naturally.
\\Even though they THEMSELVES say they are (ditto Ukrainian Azov Brigade soldiers).
""The Azov Assault Brigade (Ukrainian: Штурмова бригада «Азов», romanized: Shturmova bryhada "Azov") is a formation of the National Guard of Ukraine ""
Yap... "they call themself" National Guard of Ukraine... and that means that they are Nazis???? :-))))))
Similarly, in an interview with Israeli newspaper Haaretz, Azov deputy commander Svyatoslav Palamar denied the regiment being a neo-Nazi formation and said: ""What is Nazism? When someone thinks that one nation is superior to another nation, when someone thinks he has a right to invade another country and destroy its inhabitants... We believe in our country's territorial integrity. We have never attacked anyone, and we have not wanted to do that."[276]
\\Human Rights Watch says "Rioters blatantly and proudly hurled racial slurs against Capitol Police officers. Many waved the Confederate battle flag, long a symbol for southern states that supported slavery and those promoting post-Civil War racist policies. Gallows and nooses that recalled the lynchings of Black people appeared on and around the Capitol grounds — so many symbols of racial hatred that the Washington Post compiled a list of many that were witnessed that day. Taken together, they lead to one overarching conclusion: that the January 6 attacks had much to do with race in America".
Propaganda.
Yawn.
\\Qtard: It doesn't matter who and what admitted. Because that is only in totalitarian countries -- confession can be base for persecution.
\\False. Confessions CAN be a basis for prosecution.
Yap.
Like in totalitarian countries. ;-P
\\Qtard: In democratic countries there exist laws AGAINST self-blaming.
\\Cite the law. The Fifth Amendment provides protection to individuals from being compelled to incriminate themselves. COMPELLED. If individual confesses of their own volition
Ha-ha-ha... al is simple, just point gun at him... and it will do it. "Out of their own volition", isn't it, De-Ru-Pi? ;-P
\\Qtard: And... there STILL no trial. And NO results of that trial.
\\Indictments have been handed down. Trials have been scheduled.
Conviniently.
To AFTER election time.
When it would not be of any importance.
\\ dotard donald will show up in court and face charges in multiple trials.
About "collusion"?
About "insurrection"?
About "attempt to overthrow government"?
\\Qtard: \\Yes. Call them idiots because they are. Or they could be called qtards. That is a notion that works\\Gibberish again. What "works"?
\\Gibberish is smart words the idiot Qtard doesn't understand. YOU said you could make up words and call them a "notion". Forgot?
Gibberish "notion"? :-))))))
Yes, it "works".
Now I see it.
Thank you for explaining. ;-P
\\I accept the existence of qtards. YES. Qtard (an idiot) exists. Not noble though. In the least.
BIG PROGRESS! :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Naaaah.
IT... still in denial being idiot. ;-P
Derpy's Escape? ;-P
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