Sunday, May 24, 2020

If a Tree Fell in a Forest...

News You're NOT Supposed to Hear

37 comments:

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

US could have prevented majority of deaths and cases if it shut down sooner, new model finds. (excerpt) If the United States had implemented social distancing policies just a week sooner, it could have prevented more than half the number of coronavirus deaths and infections, according to new research from Columbia University. And if the country had locked down two weeks earlier than it did, it could have prevented 84% of deaths and 82% of cases, said the the research team, led by epidemiologist Jeffrey Shaman. [end excerpt]

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Why Herd Immunity Won't Save Us From The COVID-19 Pandemic (excerpt) For mumps, you need 92 percent of the population to be immune for the disease to stop spreading entirely. This is what's known as the herd immunity threshold. COVID-19 is, fortunately, much less infectious than mumps, with an estimated R0 of roughly 3.

With this number, the proportion of people who need to be infected is lower but still high, sitting at around 70 percent of the entire population. Which brings us to why herd immunity could never be considered a preventative measure.

If 70 percent of your population is infected with a disease, it is by definition not prevention. How can it be? Most of the people in your country are sick! ... It's also worth thinking about the repercussions of this disastrous scenario – the best estimates put COVID-19 infection fatality rate at around 0.5-1 percent. If 70 percent of an entire population gets sick, that means that between 0.35-0.7 percent of everyone in a country could die, which is a catastrophic outcome. [end excerpt]

Joe Conservative said...

Violation of Farr's Law If the United States had implemented social distancing policies just a week sooner, it could have prevented more than half the number of coronavirus deaths and infections,

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

Scientific fact not in evidence: Social Distancing prevents (not merely "slows") virus spread

If 70 percent of an entire population gets sick, that means that between 0.35-0.7 percent of everyone in a country could die,

100% of Americans are going to die. 0.35-0.7 may die this month from Covid, or in 6 months from their underlying medical condition. Meanwhile, what will the quality of their remaining 6 months of life be (hooked on ventilators)?

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

So I guess epidemiologist Jeffrey Shaman and his team of researchers at Columbia University are all frauds?

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

New Zealand must be lying about eliminating (via a strict lock down) the virus from their country.

Joe Conservative said...

Jeffrey Shaman and his team of researchers at Columbia University are all frauds? Only to the extent that they continue to ignore Farr's Law.

Joe Conservative said...

New Zealand's policy will get tested again w/Phase 2. I hope that New Zealand enjoys being locked down 2 months out of 12 indefinitely for the foreseeable future.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

If lock downs are so stupid, why did Dotard say he had to do it?

Predisent Dotard: "I had to turn it off to get to a point where we are today".

Joe Conservative said...

If lock downs are so stupid, why did Dotard say he had to do it?

Cuz he fell for Fauci's B.S.

Joe Conservative said...

He's already recognized his mistake and promised no shutdown WHEN the 2nd wave hits.

Unlike Democrats, he learns.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Predisent Dotard: "I had to turn it off to get to a point where we are today".

This is what someone who has "recognized his mistake" says? They say they were right and admit no mistake? Who knew?

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Maybe he was being "sarcastic". LOL.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Then why isn't he promising to lock America down again?

...cuz doubling down on stupid is a Democrat's go-to move.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Just because he isn't saying we may have to go back into lock down doesn't mean he acknowledges any mistake in doing it the first time. Deaths will go up, but that's what your thinning the herd strategy demands. And (of course) you can lie more about the number of reported deaths being fake.

As for doubling down on stupid... you do plan on voting for Dotard again, yes? Dotard needs four more years to complete the job... of destroying the US. Too much winning! Unfortunately it's Putin that's winning.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Putin certainly wins with every comment YOU post. That's pure return on his Steele dossier investment.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Putin certainly wins with every comment YOU post. That's pure return on his ongoing disinformation operation investment.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Do you work for Fusion GPS Russian/ British MI6 disinformation pipeline into the FBI, too?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...or the one that used to feed Brennan at CIA?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

You know the one I'm talking about, Sid Blumenthals pipeline through Hillary Clinton into the US Dept. of State that gave us all that great Benghazi intel.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

I don't.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

ask sid why he stuffs clasified materials down his pants, then.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Are you confusing Sandy Berger and Sydney Blumenthal? Otherwise I don't know wtf you're talking about. Or what Benghazi has to do with Putin and Dotard's colluding to steal the 2016 election.

Joe Conservative said...

Perhaps.. They were both Clinton aids and confidants.

Joe Conservative said...

As for Benghazi...

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

All Jews must look alike to White Nationalists. I don't see that the article you linked to says anything about the 2016 election. Maybe you're just saying you like Russian disinformation while disliking (what you call) disinformation on the other side? Personally I like to go with facts.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

All Jews must look alike to White Nationalists. isn't that the point of coloured nationalisms?

And the 2016 election had nothing to do with Hillary's job performance as SoS? Who knew?

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Hillary Clinton Exits With 69% Approval Rating Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leaves the post as an overwhelmingly popular figure on the national political stage. An eye-popping 69% of Americans approve of the job she has done as the country's top diplomat, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, with a scant 25% disapproving of her performance. [end quote]

Benghazi = another of your fake scandals. Like "Obamagate". Meanwhile Dotard continues to rack up real scandals. First there was Russian collusion and now it's "operation destroy the economy and kill Americans via mind blowing incompetence". Too much winning (aka losing)!

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

lol". Obama was popular, too. Its nice to be covered by the cloak of Gyges.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Just ask Nyssia

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Regardless of whether or not an imaginary cloak accounted for HRC's high popularity, she STILL enjoyed high popularity. You claimed the election was a referendum on HRC's job performance (and a reason she lost). I presented evidence disproving your claim (she likely gained votes for doing a good job as SoS)... and you AGREED (her popularity was high). My turn to LOL.

Joe Conservative said...

No, you claimed her popularity was 69% approval HIGH, yet at election time it was significantly less and she ended up losing the election. I'd say that more than 25% disapproved of her performance, wouldn't you? :)

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

"yet at election time it was significantly less"... according to who? As for the disapproval, that's typical in our divided times. Dotard's approval isn't much higher and his disapproval is higher. And his bungling of the federal government's coronavirus response is doing him no favors. If it were not for the cheating I would predict a Biden blowout. btw, HRC won (more people wanted her to be our next president).

Joe Conservative said...

according to the voters in the election. And Trumps approval rating was enough to beat her sorry ass.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

The voters showed their approval of HRC by giving her the popular vote WIN.

Thersites said...

She got 69% of the popular vote, same as her approval rating when she left the SoS position in 2012? Who knew?

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

SoS and president are different jobs. Just because someone approved of her job as SoS doesn't mean they'd automatically vote for her as president. Or vote for Dotard. As opposed to not voting. Which many people who are qualified to do -- don't. A smaller popular vote win (than her SoS approval) doesn't mean the difference was due to people changing their minds (re their previous approval).

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

48.2% isn't what I would call a "high popularity". It's not even a majority. 69% is and was.