Tuesday, April 7, 2026

Trump Falls into the US Neocon / BRICS laid Thucydides Trap

 
from Google AI:
The Thucydides Trap, coined by Graham Allison, describes the high risk of war when a rising power threatens to displace a ruling power, a concept derived from Sparta’s fear of a rising Athens in ancient Greece. Historical studies indicate that in 12 of 16 cases over the past 500 years, such structural stress resulted in conflict, not peace.

Key Elements and Context
 
The Origin: The phrase stems from Athenian historian Thucydides, who wrote that "It was the rise of Athens and the fear that this instilled in Sparta that made war inevitable".

Modern Application: The theory is primarily applied to the current tension between the United States (ruling) and China (rising)
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Key Drivers: Conflict arises from structural pressures rather than immediate provocation, where the dominant power fears losing its position, and the rising power feels entitled to more influence.
Potential Consequences and Criticism 
Consequences: If not managed, the trap can escalate trade disputes, proxy wars, or minor accidents into full-scale, devastating war.

Criticisms: Critics argue the theory is overly deterministic, ignoring human agency, diplomacy, and the inhibiting factor of nuclear deterrence. Some argue the historical cases are not directly comparable to modern Sino-US relations due to high economic interdependence.
Avoiding the Trap 
The trap is not inevitable; Allison notes that 4 of the 16 historical cases did not lead to war. Avoiding it requires conscious efforts from leaders to:
Manage Rivalry: Engage in competition without resorting to violence.

Establish New Systems: Develop new international relations frameworks (similar to China’s "new type of international relations" goal).

Recognize Miscalculations: Avoid the misinterpretations that characterized the Peloponnesian War, as highlighted in studies on the Thucydides Trap File.


43 comments:

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

The entire world is paying the price because magamorons thought the Orange idiot is actually a genius🙄🙄🙄

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

The Orange idiot TACO'd. What a non surprise. The Iranian civilization somehow escaped being ended.

Joe Conservative said...

You sound disappointed...

Joe Conservative said...

You mean he didn't load 2 planes full of $100 bills and fly them to Tehran? What an idiot!

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

It was their own money. The Obama administration unfroze it. Also, we got back hostages. You'd have said to keep them?

donald trump increased the money in Iran's coffers SIGNIFICANTLY more. Turd-2 gave Iran a waiver to sell it's oil prices that are much higher due to the war he started. I'm sure they won't use that money to fund their war efforts🙄🙄🙄

Maybe Eric Weinstein will count this as more proof that donald is a genius???🙄🙄🙄

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Why would I be disappointed when I am opposed to the war and don't think we should be bombing them at all? You think, despite this, I'm upset trump didn't kill thousands of innocent people and commit bigly war crimes on behalf of the United States? I was pointing out the verified fact that donald is a moron.

Are you disappointed?

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

According to Mystere I'm on the side of Iran. You can't decide whose side I'm on, apparently. I think it is whichever one allows you to make a moronic insult.

Anonymous said...

The megamoron duo of netanyahu and trump are the parasites that ought to be vaporized, not Iran. The rich culture of the Persian people is far more interesting, far more meaningful, far richer, far more enlightened, and far more decent than anything the duo of megamorons trump and netanyahu could ever acheive. Israeli Zionism and Christian Zionism are in fact the two greatest evils existing in the modern world.

Anonymous said...


This cease fire deal is a great development because it could provide the Trump administration an off ramp to the war. I am not being naive here the Iranian "ten point plan" which apparently will be the starting point for the negotiations has no chance of being made a permanent peace deal both Republican and Democrat members of Congress would never sign off on it as a matter of fact if such a deal was attempted to be implemented the country would probably see many key players in the administration resign! But the great value in the two week cease fire deal is that it will bring an end to reciprocal bombing by Iran on one side and the U.S. and Israel on the other side and it will reopen the Strait of Hormuz thereby stopping this blockage stranglehold on the world economy. Thus a win for Trump.

Anonymous said...

Any ASSHOLE that writes any post saying Fuhrer trump. Or ANY other reference to Hitler is truly an ASSHOLE

Anonymous said...

This stupid shit again Calling our President those Disgusting.
And Disgraceful names . Of course coming from one of the usual Progressives idiots.

Anonymous said...

This stupid shit again Calling our President those Disgusting.
And Disgraceful names . Of course coming from one of the usual Progressives idiots

Anonymous said...

This stupid shit again Calling our President those Disgusting.
And Disgraceful names . Of course coming from one of the usual Progressives idiots Lester

Joe Conservative said...

The waivers were to keep our allies supplied due to Russian sanctions. So now you're a Putin supporter? You hate Ukraine?

Joe Conservative said...

No, I'm not disappointed, as I am against this stupid war (and Biden's stupid Ukraine war which you support).

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

I am very strongly opposed to Putin's war on Ukraine. I would also be opposed to a Biden Ukraine war if it wasn't imaginary.

Anonymous said...

That MORONIC CHUCK SCHMUCKER NEEDS TO SHUT HIS STUPID MOUTH

Ray said...

The Democrats are showing what Idiots they really have become. And the Progressives on this board are as well.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

The waivers also keep Iran supplied with significant amounts of money. And I thought it was your contention that the US doesn't need allies and shouldn't have them. Now you like the UN? It was my understanding that you thought the US should ally with Russia and that Putin could be our best friend. Giving waivers to Russia to sell oil so they could use the money to fight Ukraine seems like something you'd support strongly.

Joe Conservative said...

I never wanted sanctions on anyone, Russia or Iran. Sanctions are a stupid "Group think - socialized government" approach like the UN. Tariffs are my trade weapons. A "national" approach to foreign policy. Not a global one.

Joe Conservative said...

I don't care who Iran and Russia sell their oil to.

Joe Conservative said...

I'm very opposed to subsidizing Ukraine's resistance to Russia. I've got no dog in their resource squabble.

Joe Conservative said...

And your "strong opposition" is no reason for sending them my tax money.

Joe Conservative said...

So demonstrate just how "strongly opposed" you are by writing them a personal check and stop throwing away my money to alleviate your own vanity.

Anonymous said...

Bullshit. Moron trump gained NOTHING. Except ballooning the National Debt yet again. To the tune of billions and billions of dollars. That and satisfying his twin moron netanyahu's bloodthirst for Muslim blood.

Two assholes working in tandem to create hate, destruction, and death.

Anonymous said...

You really enjoy repeating your ignorance don't you anon?

Anonymous said...

Naw, your mega-moron trump and his MAGAt cult are doing a fine job of showing the entire planet what idiots they've become.

Anonymous said...

Ok you Win. Because I’m done play games with you KAMALA FANS . AND I’m done with you Dumb Children . I have better things to do. Like watching Fox News and seeing the Democrats estting each other.

Anonymous said...

The only one president that equals Trump as president was Ronald Reagan

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

I have no idea wtf you're talking about. Nobody consulted me about funding the Ukraine war. And, if you got a bill that demanded payment for your share of the cost, I think you were scammed. It could be one of those scams that old people fall for. I've never received a Ukraine war bill. I'm not sending any additional money beyond what I pay in taxes.

And I don't know what my alleged "vanity" has to do with it at all. I think you mean Putin's vanity. You got the president you want, so if any additional funds are going to Ukraine I REALLY have nothing to do with it. Not with the republicans in complete control.

Maybe you can just be happy with your tariff rebate check? donald did say he was going to send them. I didn't get one, but I figured the reason is because I'm a Democrat. Surely you got yours...

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

You mean in terms of how bad they were/are? No, I think that, even though ronald reagan was a terrible president, donald trump is far worse. No equal in how terrible a job he is doing, but far exceeding.

Anonymous said...

I shouldn’t expected an answer like that from a Prick like you

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

So it's you who supports the mullahs and the Iranian regime. I already knew you supported Putin. It seems you support all of America's enemies.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

I love my neighbors and wish only the best for them.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

I also don't feel any need to control them. I simply walk softly, and carry a big stick. Sheep won't attack lions, especially if they're young and healthy lions.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

And THAT, my friend, is the meaning of MAGA!

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

The reason why Democrats lost control was the stupidity of their policies (Obama/Biden). They poked the bear, and lost.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minus: I love my neighbors and wish only the best for them.

Baloney. You want the people of Ukraine to live under Russian subjugation. While most Ukranians view being free and independent of Russia as being best for them.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

The reason Republicans will lose control is the bigly stupidity of their policies. their standard bearer promised to bring down prices quickly and he did the opposite. He also promised no new wars and is starting many new conflicts. Marco wants to take on Cuba next. And what about North Korea? They actually have nukes.

You still think donald trump will pay off the entire national debt in his second term?

donald trump is a moron and so are his supporters. Mystere is crowing about donald trump forcing the "Gayatollah Khameini" to "bend over for a cease fire".

And he is claiming i'm crying due to trump's success in Iran.

You elected a moron and lost. If Ukraine loses it will be donald trump's fault, not the Democrats.

People aren't blaming Democrats for higher gas prices.

Joe Conservative said...

Revolutionary Islamic Theocracy (Wilayat al Fiqh) is hardly a "rich" or "enlightened" cultural expression. It's not even genuinely 'Persian'. Jes' sayin'...

Joe Conservative said...

Except that most of the Ukrainians you claim to want to become Independent of Russia in the Donbass ACTUALLY are ethnic Russians who wish to become Independent of Ukraine

Joe Conservative said...

They certainly were during the last election cycle.

Joe Conservative said...

Reagan should have listened more to Pat Buchanan.