Friday, November 3, 2023

On Re-Framing Diversity & Inclusion

57 comments:

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

I dunno even know who these "woke Marxists" are. Is James Lindsay just Owen Wilson wearing a tinfoil hat?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

He named them. People like Antonio Gramsci (Pete Buttegig's father's idol) Maybe you should follow up on their teachings.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...
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-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

:P

Unlike Jordan Peterson, Lindsey's done his homework.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

The old Marxists had Red Diaper babies (like Bob Dillon and Pete Buttegig's dad). The Red diaper babies had Pink Diaper babies (like Pete B). They are the so-called "New Left", and many Frankfurt School Prof's taught in US Universities. Herbert Marcuse was my first entry into the Frankfurt School. "Eros and Civilization".

The Frankfurt School had a lot to contribute. I don't demonize them like Lindsey does. I learned from them.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

The woke left is just a name for the New Left's "Revolutionary Vanguard". They've been incredibly successful in re-making American culture. Yes, the "Culture Wars" were actually something.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Pete Buttigieg: I think of myself as progressive. But I also believe in capitalism, but it has to be democratic capitalism. ... You don't have to look that hard to find examples of capitalism without democracy — Russia leaps to mind. And when you have capitalism without democracy, you get crony capitalism and eventually oligarchy. So a healthy capitalist system, working within the rule of law, is the stuff of American growth and can be the stuff of equitable growth.

Pete isn't a Marxist.

Minus: The woke left is just a name for the New Left's "Revolutionary Vanguard".

Naah. They're just opposed to bigotry.

Minus: They've been incredibly successful in re-making American culture. Yes, the "Culture Wars" were actually something.

That's great. Though we have a long way to go. They aren't over. Yet, I dunno what not being a bigot has to do with Marxism.

Wikipedia (page you linked to) In the United States, the "New Left" was the name loosely associated with liberal, radical, Marxist political movements that took place during the 1960s, primarily among college students.

So, Lindsay uses some tin foil hat nuttery to link a movement from the 60s to Wokeism (not being a bigot) and the present day Democratic Party? Because of Pete Pete Buttigieg's dad and diapering of babies?

That he's gay further confirms his Marxism? Aside from who his father's idol was?

"Drag Queen story hour" spreads Marxism?

Apparently Lindsay believes bigotry and Capitalism go hand in hand while (on the other side) Marxism and Diversity/Inclusion go hand in hand? This doesn't make any sense to me. It might help me understand if I put on a tinfoil hat?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...or take one off...

Anonymous said...

\\Apparently Lindsay believes bigotry and Capitalism go hand in hand while (on the other side) Marxism and Diversity/Inclusion go hand in hand? This doesn't make any sense to me. It might help me understand if I put on a tinfoil hat?

Yeah.

Cause you are idiot -- have no mind capacity, no erudition, no knowledge of history.

That Marxists pounded "unity of all people", actually. And even proposed such things as free sex and etc.

Joe Conservative said...

"Workers of the World, Unite!" Sounds very Trotsky globalist to me. Stalin was a communist nationalist. Hence the origin of their "disagreement" resulting in Trotsky's death in Mexico.

So be a good little "COMINTERN fellow traveller" Dervy, and allow the workers to stay in Mexico. Just scale down your Marxist Utopia like Stalin did.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Allow? So they want to stay in Mexico and Mexico wants them, but Biden said NO. They have to come to the US? His policy is forced immigration? Who knew? I'm definitely opposed.

As for Qtard's stupidly... yeah, unity is bad. No surprise that would be the opinion of a hater who's always talking about killing enemies. Thinks innocent people are accomplices and is pro-gun violence. Is bloodthirsty for babies to be killed if their parents are Muslims.

Anonymous said...

\\"Workers of the World, Unite!" Sounds very Trotsky globalist to me. Stalin was a communist nationalist.

Bull Shit.

And for what he started World War??? If not for self-inflivted prophesy of World Communistic Revolution?

You really dunno History. :-(((



\\Hence the origin of their "disagreement" resulting in Trotsky's death in Mexico.

Naaah.

Banal fight for a totalitarian power.



What Derpy mumbling about, can you explain Joe? If you please.

Because it unable to explain it, anyway.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

HOW can anyone but you know what your alter ego "Derpy" is mumbling about? Nobody but you can hear the voices in your head.

Joe Conservative said...

Stalin attacked Germany? Was it for liebensraum? Who knew?

Joe Conservative said...

Yes, Russia and Germany divided Poland, and GB declared war on Germany, but they didn't declare war on Russia. Why is that? And after Russia's Finland invasion, why not? Was it because of the German/ nearer threat? Or was it because Stalin was merely an "opportunist"? Because it was Germany who had gotten the ball rolling.

Joe Conservative said...

ps - I not only know my history, I know my psychohistory as well.

Joe Conservative said...

Trotsky was assassinated by Stalin on 21 August 1940... right after the start of WWII. You really think Stalin was thinking "internationalism"? Because Trotsky would have made a great ally in THAT project running COMINTERN, and as a founding member after WWI.

Stalin's purges of the 1930s affected Comintern activists living in both the Soviet Union and overseas. At Stalin's direction, the Comintern was thoroughly infused with Soviet secret police and foreign intelligence operatives and informers working under Comintern guise. One of its leaders, Mikhail Trilisser, using the pseudonym Mikhail Aleksandrovich Moskvin, was in fact chief of the foreign department of the Soviet OGPU (later the NKVD). Numerous Comintern officials were also targeted by the dictator and became victims of show trials and political persecution, such as Grigory Zinoviev and Nikolai Bukharin. At Stalin's orders, 133 out of 492 Comintern staff members became victims of the Great Purge. Several hundred German communists and antifascists who had either fled from Nazi Germany or were convinced to relocate in the Soviet Union were liquidated, and more than a thousand were handed over to Germany.[42] Wolfgang Leonhard, who experienced this period in Moscow as a contemporary witness, wrote about it in his political autobiography, which was published in the 1950s: "The foreign communists living in the Soviet Union were particularly affected. In a few months, more functionaries of the Comintern apparatus were arrested than had been put together by all bourgeois governments in twenty years. Just listing the names would fill entire pages."[43] Fritz Platten died in a labor camp and the leaders of the Indian (Virendranath Chattopadhyaya or Chatto), Korean, Mexican, Iranian, and Turkish communist parties were executed. Out of 11 Mongolian Communist Party leaders, only Khorloogiin Choibalsan survived. Leopold Trepper recalled these days: "In house, where the party activists of all the countries were living, no-one slept until 3 o'clock in the morning. [...] Exactly 3 o'clock the car lights began to be seen [...] we stayed near the window and waited [to find out], where the car stopped".[44]

Among those persecuted were many KPD functionaries, such as members of the KPD Central Committee, who believed they had found safe asylum in the Soviet Union after Adolf Hitler's rise to power. Among them was Hugo Eberlein, who had been present at the 1919 Comintern founding congress.

Trotsky, who was also marginalized and persecuted by Stalin, and other communists founded the Fourth International in 1938 as an oppositional alternative to the Stalin-dominated Comintern. In the years that followed, however, their sections rarely got beyond the status of the smallest cadre or splinter parties.

Joe Conservative said...

COMINTERN was just a "spy network" to Stalin. Not the seeds of "world revolution" as it was to Trotsky.

Anonymous said...

\\Stalin attacked Germany? Was it for liebensraum? Who knew?

Whole World of Propletariat awaiting to be "freed" -- that is his "libensraum".

And USA was stuffing him with means to do that...

so, if you such a knowladgible man -- can you explain -- for what USA was doing that???



\\Yes, Russia and Germany divided Poland, and GB declared war on Germany, but they didn't declare war on Russia. Why is that? And after Russia's Finland invasion, why not? Was it because of the German/ nearer threat? Or was it because Stalin was merely an "opportunist"? Because it was Germany who had gotten the ball rolling.

Well... if only you'd play some decent strategy game... like, like Civilization. By Sid Maier. ;-P



\\Trotsky was assassinated by Stalin on 21 August 1940... right after the start of WWII. You really think Stalin was thinking "internationalism"? Because Trotsky would have made a great ally in THAT project running COMINTERN, and as a founding member after WWI.

And why he purged thousands of CommParty then?

So many possible allies.

Joe Conservative said...

Where'd my answer go? It's not in Spam... *Scratches head*

Anonymous said...

Or some re-enacting of your beloved Greeks? ;-)

Lead that mighty spartans to a Victory!

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

/...for what USA was doing that???

"Capitalist realism" preceded "containment"? A conflict of applicable prevailing ideologies? Hint, the first was the "better" impulse.


Well... if only you'd play some decent strategy game... like, like Civilization. By Sid Maier. ;-P

I grew up playing Risk and Stratego. Chess, not Go.

/why he purged thousands of CommParty then?

ask Wiki:
The Great Purge or the Great Terror (Russian: Большой террор), also known as the Year of '37 (37-й год, Tridtsat sedmoi god) and the Yezhovshchina ('period of Yezhov'),[8] was Soviet General Secretary Joseph Stalin's campaign to solidify his power over the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the state, by removal and execution of people; the purges were also designed to remove the remaining influence of Leon Trotsky as well as other prominent political rivals within the party. It occurred from August 1936 to March 1938.[9]

...in other words, Stalin turned from Internationalism to Nationalism.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

It was time to stop chasing butterflies around the globe and face his growing threat from Germany. His was a disciplinary society requiring heterotopias (gulags), not some new fangled cybernetic-based society of control or protopia.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

:P

Anonymous said...

\\I grew up playing Risk and Stratego. Chess, not Go.

That's like reading book against watching movie.



\\"Capitalist realism" preceded "containment"? A conflict of applicable prevailing ideologies? Hint, the first was the "better" impulse.

I am still not good around such smart wording.

Means he just made rational decision -- that more distant "enemy" is better "friend" than more close one?

AKA "foe of my foe is my friend".

But WHO is your friends today, USA???



\\the purges were also designed to remove the remaining influence of Leon Trotsky as well as other prominent political rivals within the party. It occurred from August 1936 to March 1938.[9]

What a BS...

There was NO "political rivals". Because... there was NO politics. In USSR.

They loosing ANY power just by coming out of Kreml.

Like from piece of early revolutionary fiction -- some new genral was assigned to lead "revoluitional troops of Red Army of Workers and Peasants".

But... he was taken on the go and arrested. Becase his gonna be subordiantes -- blatantly DIDN'T KNEW who he is.

I understand. That is hard to imagine. For citizen of USA. Where all higherups is very audacious and destinguishable.

But that is EXACTLY that part of NOT understanding quirks of History. ;-)

And well... that is not try to denigrate "oh, those Americans, they know nothing" -- virtually nobody know that -- that is not what they teach in schools or even universities.

Like in Europe, they only starting to unwind pages of History about role of North man... for example.



\\...in other words, Stalin turned from Internationalism to Nationalism.

Yeah. That special type of Rush'A's "internationalism" -- all nations are equal, while they diligently learning talking in Russian, and honor Big Brother Russian.

One-to-one Ideology of DEMNs. ;-P Isn't it?

"Nationalism of Stalin"... started in the midst of World War... they call Great Fatherland's War (mimicing Fartherland's War fought against Napoleon).

When Stalin saw that his underlings -- Russians, quite ready and even glad to fall under Hitler's rule... as MORE merciful, to the "paradise of USSR" Stalin have created.

Which should be telling.

But nobody on the West know/care to know it.

That's why your head full of myths... myths Rush'A itself implanted.

Because when one have no purpose, void became filled with anything and became that purpose...

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

/But WHO is your friends today, USA???

Billionaires atteding the WEF in Davos.

As for what the Dems want to emulate from Stalinism is the single Party state...

Dervish Sanders said...

A significant share of respondents question if democracy is no longer a viable system of governance; 31 percent of Trump supporters said America should explore alternative forms of government to ensure stability and progress... link

Minus is onboard. He previously revealed he desires that dotard donald be installed as "president for life".

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

I did? And I thought that I just wanted legit voters to decide elections and not the people who printed up and filled out the extra ballots that recorded them.

Dervish Sanders said...

Good news! That is the system we have. If people cheat (which happens rarely) they get caught.

"extensive research reveals that fraud is very rare, voter impersonation is virtually nonexistent, and many instances of alleged fraud are, in fact, mistakes by voters or administrators".

The bigger problem is legit voters being disenfranchised. And you want more of that. To "fix" a problem that doesn't effect elections. Because the numbers are so small.

Anonymous said...

:-)))))))

Joe Conservative said...

Except the last time in an election in CT...where they had to redo the election because videos were LEAKED by a WHISTLBLOWER and not "reported" by Government Officials...

Such cases instill great confidence in people being "caught'.

Joe Conservative said...

...let the persecution of the leakers, BEGIN! Right Dervy?

Joe Conservative said...

Gyges cloak needs repair.

Dervish Sanders said...

Minus: ...let the persecution of the leakers, BEGIN! Right Dervy?

Why would I want that? I want cheaters caught and elections to be honest. You think that, because I don't buy your trump BS about how Joe Biden stole the election, I am pro fraud. But I am not.

Minus: Such cases instill great confidence in people being "caught'.

They do.

If anything, they note, the Connecticut case shows once again that when fraud happens, it’s almost always on a local scale, and often gets caught.

“To election losers who have claimed for three years that their election was stolen, Bridgeport was discovered within days or weeks,” said David Becker, founder of the nonpartisan Center for Election Innovation and Research. “There still hasn’t been a shred of evidence presented to any court demonstrating widespread fraud in 2020.” link

Anonymous said...

\\I am pro fraud. But I am not.

Inner contradiction.

In NEXT sentence.


\\If anything, they note, the Connecticut case shows once again that when fraud happens, it’s almost always on a local scale, and often gets caught.

Of course.

Because on a great level it prepared, performed and covered much better. ;-P

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

and often gets caught.

Really? You love Ruby Freemen. Was she caught? No, she'll continue her scam with her daughter and associates ad infinitum.

Dervish Sanders said...

Qtard: Inner contradiction. In NEXT sentence.

Fake quote. Manufactured by loping off the first part. To make it look like I said something I did not. Yawn.

Qtard: Because on a great level it prepared, performed and covered much better.

Exactly. Better prepared to prevent cheating. Why it doesn't happen. Thanky for agreeing with me.

Minus: ...Ruby Freemen. Was she caught?

The person who falsely accused her of cheating was caught. Now Rudy will have to pay her a lot of money :)

Anonymous said...

\\Fake quote. Manufactured by loping off the first part. To make it look like I said something I did not. Yawn.

You ALLOWED to make fake quotes? And I'm not? ;-P

And... how do you feel it?

Or I need to add something, to make it more apparent.

Like say... I NEVER said it!!! You are LYING!!! Gove give QUOTE where I'd say it! But I will not admit I said it ANYWAY!!!

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Ruby Freeman wears a double cloak of Gyges.

Dervish Sanders said...

Qtard: You ALLOWED to make fake quotes? And I'm not?

No. I don't allow myself to do that. Because (unlike you) I believe in honest debate.

Qtard: And... how do you feel it?

Feel what? How do I feel about you faking quotes from me? I don't like it.

Qtard: Or I need to add something, to make it more apparent. Like say... I NEVER said it!!! You are LYING!!! Gove give QUOTE where I'd say it! But I will not admit I said it ANYWAY!

I dunno how to respond to this babbling. You are trying to turn my honest criticisms of what you do back on me? Dishonestly.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minus: Ruby Freeman wears a double cloak of Gyges.

I wonder how much of Rudy's money she's going to get. I hope a LOT. Rudy needs to be punished for his lies.

Anonymous said...

\\Anonymous Dervish Sanders said...
Qtard: You ALLOWED to make fake quotes? And I'm not?

\\No. I don't allow myself to do that. Because (unlike you) I believe in honest debate.

Same as you "believe in facts"?

Yawn.

Well, dont say. That was rethorical question.



\\Feel what? How do I feel about you faking quotes from me? I don't like it.

That's it.

There's nothing to like.

But hypocrite Derpy already stated his stance -- ABOVE.



\\I dunno how to respond to this babbling.

Yap.

Me too.

Well... no. I know what to do -- I call it what it is -- idiocy. ;-P



\\You are trying to turn my honest criticisms of what you do back on me?
Dishonestly.

NewSpeak.

Yawn.

HOW your "I NEVER said it" -- is criticizm???


criticism
/ˈkrɪtɪsɪz(ə)m/
noun
the expression of disapproval of someone or something on the basis of perceived faults or mistakes.


Do you mean that you disapprove YOUR OWN DAMN WORDS???? :-))))))

Then... why you REPEATING em, then???

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Qtard: Do you mean that you disapprove YOUR OWN DAMN WORDS???? :-))))))

What an IDIOT. Why would I disapprove of my own words? You keep bringing it up. Keep repeating "never said it" over and over. Which I write when Qtard fakes quotes from me. Says "what Derpy really me". But that is NOT a criticism? You LIKE it? Want me to say it more?

I guess that explains why you keep faking quotes and saying "what Derpy really mean". Because you WANT that reaction.

Anonymous said...

\\What an IDIOT. Why would I disapprove of my own words?

Why you screaming "I NEVER said it" then?

To confirm that you delusional I-D-I-O-T, deliuberately? WHAT FOR??? (making big eys)



\\Which I write when Qtard fakes quotes from me.

Yap.

"Faking quotes".

With copy-pasting from comments ander nickname Dervish Sanders.

Quotes that can be than copy-pasted into Ctrl-F search field and CONFIRMED being genuine OWN WORDS written under that nickname.

For sure.

Which renders such calims -- that that quotes was faked -- as UTTERLY idiotic. :-)))))))))

But Dervish Sander IS an idiot NOT FOR NOTHING.

It need to confirm its idiotcy... with each and every of its DEMN lying word, isn't it, De-Ru-Pun??? :-))))))


\\ Says "what Derpy really me". But that is NOT a criticism? You LIKE it? Want me to say it more?

Yeah.

I like to observe your idiotic behavior.

I stated that frankly and openly. Almost year ago.

But with your sore loser rotten coconut... you cannot grok it... even now. :-))))))

Dervish Sanders said...

Qtard: With copy-pasting from comments ander nickname Dervish Sanders.

Copy-paste partial quotes. Add "em their rights" when I deny nobody their rights. Yawn. The lying continues. On and on.

Qtard: Which renders such calims -- that that quotes was faked -- as UTTERLY idiotic.

Yeah. Qtard thinks the truth is "utterly idiotic". No surprise.

Qtard: But with your sore loser rotten coconut... you cannot grok it... even now.

No. I grok it. You are an idiot. And completely nuts.

Anonymous said...

\\Copy-paste partial quotes.

ALL quotes are partial.

Yawn.

Because they are mere excerpts. ;-P

But... continue-continue showing itself imbecile, De-Ru-Pun.




\\The lying continues. On and on.

I *KNOW* that you are lying non-stop.

No need to emphatise on it... so much. ;-P



\\Yeah. Qtard thinks the truth is "utterly idiotic". No surprise.

Your alter-ego "Qtard"?

Quite might be.

Very veritable.

And might be the Truth. ;-P



\\No. I grok it. You are an idiot. And completely nuts.

Yap.

Exactly what residents of asylum saying... about outsiders. ;-P

Dervish Sanders said...

Qtard: \\Copy-paste partial quotes\\ ALL quotes are partial.

So you think you are free to change the meaning of what was said by partially quoting? Adding to them? Like "em their rights"? Figures a heinous liar like you would think that.

Qtard: I *KNOW* that you are lying non-stop.

That is what your delusions tell you. I believe it.

Qtard: \\Yeah. Qtard thinks the truth is "utterly idiotic". No surprise\\ Your alter-ego "Qtard"?

I don't have an alter ego with the same nickname as you.

Qtard: Quite might be. Very veritable. And might be the Truth.

It is a lie.

Qtard: \\No. I grok it. You are an idiot. And completely nuts\\ Yap. Exactly what residents of asylum saying... about outsiders.

You say as a resident of an asylum?

Anonymous said...

\\Dervish Sanders said...
Qtard: \\Copy-paste partial quotes\\ ALL quotes are partial.

\\So you think you are free to change the meaning of what was said by partially quoting? Adding to them? Like "em their rights"? Figures a heinous liar like you would think that.

Talking to... itself? ;-P



\\Qtard: I *KNOW* that you are lying non-stop.

\\That is what your delusions tell you. I believe it.

Because you "believing in facts"??? :-)))))

Or you already throwed out that false idea?


\\I don't have an alter ego with the same nickname as you.

Aha! So Dervish Sadners it's *MY* nickname? ;-P



\\Qtard: Quite might be. Very veritable. And might be the Truth.

\\It is a lie.

Thank you for confirming. That Your see LIE as Truth. ;-P



\\Qtard: \\No. I grok it. You are an idiot. And completely nuts\\ Yap. Exactly what residents of asylum saying... about outsiders.

\\You say as a resident of an asylum?

Yeah... and talking about it from outsider to residents of an asylum standpoint. :-))))))))

Or you just trying to check it out -- if I am your peer, fellow asylum dweller? :-))))))))

I bet, you'd reveal that Truth. In a jiffy. ;-P

Anonymous said...

Gone consulting with asylum peers? ;-P

Dervish Sanders said...

Qtard: \\So you think you are free to change the meaning of what was said by partially quoting? Adding to them? Like "em their rights"? Figures a heinous liar like you would think that\\ Talking to... itself?

Idiot thinks *I* added "em their rights" to my own quote? Idiot is trying to thrug off it's henious lies onto me?

Qtard: Aha! So Dervish Sadners it's *MY* nickname?

Is that what your delusions tell you?

Qtard: Thank you for confirming. That Your see LIE as Truth.

You say to yourself?

Qtard: Yeah... and talking about it from outsider to residents of an asylum standpoint

From your memories of the past before you were institutionalized?

Anonymous said...

Yawn.

Dervish Sanders said...

Bored by your own comments?

Anonymous said...

:-))))))))))

What a shallow taunt. Perfectly fitting.

Anonymous said...

Cretin Derpy have nothing to say???

Well, naturally -- because it is cretin.

Anonymous said...

Derr Punn silently agreed here too. ;-P

Dervish Sanders said...

How should I know. You are Derr Punn. Are you inclined to agree with yourself? I would think YES, but I can't say for sure. Given that I dunno what the voices in your head are saying.

Anonymous said...

:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))