Saturday, February 5, 2022

On the Fine Art of Political Scapegoating...

57 comments:

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...
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The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

How our society falls into tyranny = allows donald tRump back into the White House.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

Fiscal incompetence and geopolitical ignorance aren't tyranny though?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Our society falls into tyranny when the voters can no longer question the vote counters.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Our society falls into tyranny when lies about stolen elections cause deluded people to conclude that getting rid of democracy is the solution. Or violence like we saw on Jan 6.

FYI, you questioned and your accusations were proven baseless. The Cyber Ninja "audit" that confirmed Joe Biden's win - for example.

Thersites said...

Many vote counting deficiencies and discrepancies were revealed, enough, moreover, to effect the outcome.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

No they were not. Re your example of voting databases showing that people were born in 1900... all the people with a date of birth of 1900 who voted for Biden would not have voted tRump if only their record contained their actual date of birth.

Thersites said...

That was a different State's audit.... and it's still a deficiency there that remain uncorrected. :)

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

It is not proof of voter fraud.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

It was proof of a vulnerability to voter fraud in the range of hundreds of thousands of votes.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

It's proof that many people keying in lots of data will make mistakes. You want to use those mistakes (which aren't the fault of the voter) to try and disenfranchise as many voters as possible. If tRump had won Joe Biden could have made the same argument... And you would NOT have accepted it. HRC could have proffered the same concerns in 2016. You'd have cried "sore loser" and mocked anyone making the SAME arguments. QED f*ck off. Joe Biden is the legitimately elected president of the United States.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

lol! Vote counter "mistakes" are acceptable to you? Good to know when Trump gets 400 million votes in 2024.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Mistakes are unacceptable when it comes to counting MY vote(s).

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Zero mistakes is impossible.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

It doesn't matter how many votes tRump (if he runs) gets. Kamala Harris chooses the next president. Pence had that power (according to tRump) but declined to exercise it. Kamala (if need be) should use it.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

That was actually funny, Derpy.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Yes, that zero mistakes part was a laugh riot...

Right now the election error probability is +/- 20%.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Minor data errors don't equal fraud. And, like I said, Hillary Clinton could have made the same argument in 2016. She didn't because it's ridiculous. How the f*ck does someone not recording a voter's DOB or transposing a digit in a voter's address equal a vote stolen from tRump?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

20% is "minor?" Who knew?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Tolerating a large error rate IS fraud.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

...it's also incompetence and dereliction of duty.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

I don't know where you're getting 20 percent from. My "minor" was in regards to the type of error, not the quantity of them. And it certainly isn't Democrats' fault that such minor errors exist. Nor is it proof of fraud of any kind.

This BS is just a pretext for disenfranchising as many voters as possible.

The proof is that you ignored my question... How does an election worker not recording a voter's DOB or transposing a digit in a voter's address equal a vote stolen from tRump?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

One in 14 voter registration errors is hardly a minor problem.

Official explanation for why there are 119,283 "active voters" in WI who have been registered for over 100 years "does not hold water"

569,277 voters have 1/1/1918 registration date, amounting to 1 out of every 14 voters in the system

115,252 of them voted in November 2020

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

THAT is a 7% problem... and it's only one error.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

What percentage of those are clerical errors vice fraudulent entries?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

No one knows. But according to Dervy, no one should care, either.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

It's all about the counting, not the legitimacy of the casting.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

"What percentage of those are clerical errors vice fraudulent entries?"

Most fraud is voter impersonation. There were a number of tRump voters who were caught doing this in the last election. Fraudulent entries? Give me one example. If there are any they are assuredly statistically insignificant. Same as the voter impersonation fraud.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

You can't solve crimes that you never investigate... that's law enforcement 101.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

They caught the trumpers who committed voter fraud.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

You can't solve crimes that you never investigate... that's law enforcement 101.

You can't prove a baseless (negative) claim either. That's Logic 101.

Smash all the globes you want. The Earth ain't flat.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Isn't an absence of cheating the establishment claim? Obviously an absence of errors isn't part of it... and plenty of uncorrected errors and deficiencies have been pointed out... so FIX THEM if you still want to lend any credibility to your "absence of fraud" claim.

In the intelligence field, all you need to prove is a "capability"... and there's a huge "capability" and "motive" for fraud.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

Such as sending faked elector slates to the National Archives and trying to get the Vice-President to count those instead?

It would have been less convoluted if the Republican Party had run a viable Presidential candidate in 2020.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Have you ever made an in-store purchase and the cashier asked for your phone number? Let's say you pay, the cashier asks for your phone number but then keys it in wrong. Does that mean you robbed the store?

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

Cashier? Use the self checkout and scan a pack of bubble gum while bagging up a plasma screen TV you can flip on EBay.

Amateurs.

Joe Conservative said...

They won't give you the "store discount" if the phone number gets keyed in wrong. But they let you vote...

tsk-tsk.

Joe Conservative said...

740,000 ballots in Maricopa County couldn't be traced through any chain of custody. So where did they come from?

How hard is it to write numbers down and sign custody transfer slips in the interest of preventing cheating and improper counting?

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

They came from voters. Duh. Where else would they have come from? How many were votes for tRump?

You think these were the ballots printed on bamboo paper in China?

"Sorry, your vote won't be counted due to clerical errors". How is it democracy if we're throwing out people's votes?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

They came from voters? Prove it!

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

The results were certified by officials empowered to decide that.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Who was that, the guys with the rubber stamps?

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...
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The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

No, they looked into it and found very little voter fraud.

"The review found individualized cases of voter fraud in each state: 198 in Arizona, 64 in Georgia, 26 in Pennsylvania, 31 in Wisconsin, 56 in Michigan and around 98 in Nevada".

Actual voter fraud was far to insignificant to tip the election in favor of Biden. Especially given the fact that many of the people caught were trumpers :P

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

The guys with the rubber stamps appointed and or elected as Republicans lol

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

The big lie is well past its sell by date. It's time to start picking off Republican politicians that continue to squander the opportunity to make condemning Donald Trump a permanent clause in the party platform.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

...if you still want to lend any credibility to your "absence of fraud" claim.

What gives the claim credibility is the prosecution of people caught committing voter fraud. Which I support. I do NOT support allegations that minor record-keeping errors proves fraud. Or disenfranchising voters based on these minor errors.

Joe Conservative said...

Currently Over 5 Million Questionable, Unlawful or Spurious Ballots Identified in 2020 Election in PA, GA and AZ — Will the Democratic and Republican Parties Do Anything or Will They Allow this to Continue?

Of course they'll allow it to continue. It keeps them in power.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Of course they'll allow IT to continue. They have no power over your delusions.

IT being voter fraud that didn't occur. Because there weren't 5 million questionable, unlawful or spurious ballots identified. The real number was under 1000.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

Screaming at the refs like the John McEnroe of politics

Joe Conservative said...

There are Refs? lol!

Joe Conservative said...

The Ref's NOT interfering in elections is the great unwritten rule of democracy. No one but Trump is willing to charge the mound anymore.

Joe Conservative said...

:P

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

LA by 3

Joe Conservative said...

Think anyone will be wearing a mask?

Joe Conservative said...

...and is that prediction for the make-up game?

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

Well, if the Bengals are stuck in traffic trying to get to SoFi they probably have to forfeit.

Joe Conservative said...

Gotta love a home field advantage!