All White people aren't racist. Pretending your opponents' arguments as absurd makes it easier for you to "refute" them. If you believe your strawman arguments are valid that is bigly faulty logic.
...and your statement that Charles Murray is a racist is patently absurd and meant to divert from the topic of this post, which you failed to address because it's true.
That Charles Murray is a racist isn't a diversion. It's central to the conversation. You want to divert the conversation from this fact because it's true. And it explains the motivations behind the policy changes he recommends :P
Because (generally speaking) Blacks aren't as smart as Whites (according to you). So, yes (according to you) that would be a fairly accurate test (dark skin = lower IQ). Though, as per a prior conversation, you believe there are plenty of stupid Whites as well. A better indication of low IQ would probably be (according to you) the economic status of the parents as well as skin color. AKA poor White kids are likely to have low IQs and poor Black kids are likely to have similarly low (or even lower) IQs.
Skin colour tells you absolutely nothing about an individual's IQ. It merely gives you the "average" for that skin colour. And I know and work with lots of black men who are MUCH smarter than me.
What about skin color? As for skin "colour" telling you absolutely nothing. The average is absolutely nothing? Or is it something? Also, there are people smarter than you? Who knew?
You aren't literate, are you. It tells you nothing about an individual's IQ. The group IQ for whites, 100, tells you nothing about my IQ. A black group IQ of 85 tells you nothing about an individual black man's IQ, that could be 160 or 50. That's why MLK said that you should judge a man by the content of his character and not the colour of his skin.
No, I'm not literate. I have a helper who reads your blog posts to me, then types in my orally dictated reply. I do look at the pictures and watch the videos though :)
"I'm not really worried about the White Supremacists and the White Nationalists. I'm worried about all the working class and middle class Whites ... who can't turn onto the teevee without hearing another reference to the fact that they are bad people. That they have White privilege, that they are the cause of Black's problems ... an awful lot of people are angered by this...".
Racists like Charles Murray (and you) love it when they find smart Black people who buy into their BS. If he's so worried, why is he helping sell the BS narrative that White rage is justified (or understandable) because Whites are under attack?
No, it's why the Right hates them. Most Black intellectuals (who have a platform and advocate for one political party over the other) support the Democratic Party.
Do they? Or have they merely been proclaimed "intellectuals" by the white power elites out of a lack of critical thought?
Evil comes from a failure to think. It defies thought for as soon as thought tries to engage itself with evil and examine the premises and principles from which it originates, it is frustrated because it finds nothing there. That is the banality of evil.
- Hannah Arendt, "Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil"
It isn't evil to acknowledge a problem and work to fix it. Crafting lies to sell your narrative might be critical to preserving White Supremacy (for as long as you are able) but the rest of us consider what you're doing to be the true evil. If Charles Murray were honestly concerned (as he states in the video) he'd work to dispel these lies instead of promulgating them.
There's still no good reason to believe black-white IQ differences are due to genes. (excerpt) ...there is a gap between black IQ scores and white IQ scores [and] IQ is at least partly heritable (as is almost every human trait) [but the authors of the linked to article who are are academic psychologists who have studied human intelligence] reject the conclusion that Murray and Harris say is virtually inescapable -- that it follows that the black-white difference in IQ must be partly genetic.
... The central issue at stake is whether the black-white IQ gap is partially genetically determined. We believe there is currently no strong evidence to support this conclusion, whereas Murray presents it as a near certainty ... there is, in fact, good reason to believe that improving children's environments will improve their cognitive skills [and the solution is public policy that raises children out of poverty].
Your link: Other studies have examined variations across the entire genomes of many people (an approach called genome-wide association studies or GWAS) to determine whether any specific areas of the genome are associated with IQ. These studies have not conclusively identified any genes that have major roles in differences in intelligence. It is likely that a large number of genes are involved, each of which makes only a small contribution to a person's intelligence.
Intelligence is also strongly influenced by the environment. Factors related to a child's home environment and parenting, education and availability of learning resources, and nutrition, among others, all contribute to intelligence. [end excerpt]
Charles Murray: "...if there is one lesson that we have learned from the last 70 years of social policy, it is that changing environments in ways that produce measurable results is really, really hard and we actually don't know how to do it, no matter how much money we spend. ... Does that mean that if only you can jack up artificially the environment you're going to make much difference in the child's IQ? And the answer to that is: Not long term".
i.e. government programs designed to lift children out of poverty are a waste of money and shouldn't be pursued. Murray is wrong. It isn't race but childhood poverty that affects IQ and fighting childhood poverty is something that we be using social policy to combat.
Except that Murray has shown that when taking socio-economic status into account, the racial IQ gap persists. So much for the socio-economic explanation. Rich white kids still perform 1 SD over rich black kids.
The reason is that testing is racially biased. We need to BOTH lift children out of poverty and reform testing to remove racial bias. The racist Murray wants to do nothing because (he says) Black people are genetically less intelligent (on average) and there is nothing we can do about that "fact". This is false.
Sounds like we want the same things, only you're too stupid to realize that the race is over and that we already won. As they say in engineering, "Better is the enemy of good enough".
Bigly LOL! You're too stupid to realize that the race is over and that WE already won. The American People rejected your White Supremacist leader. fyi, I would not love to suffer from the same delusions as you do or be unable to stop beating the dead horse you can't stop whipping.
Charles Murray is a racist. Interviewer has a White Supremacist haircut. Coincidence? I doubt it.
ReplyDeleteAll white people are racist, ergo all haircuts white people have white supremacists haircuts. Coincidence? Or just faulty logic.
ReplyDeleteAll White people aren't racist. Pretending your opponents' arguments as absurd makes it easier for you to "refute" them. If you believe your strawman arguments are valid that is bigly faulty logic.
ReplyDeleteYou should "note to self" then.
ReplyDeleteNo need. I figured out a long time ago that utilizing the strawman bigly is your MO.
ReplyDeletelol! Your RNC racial bias strawman is killer.
ReplyDelete...and your statement that Charles Murray is a racist is patently absurd and meant to divert from the topic of this post, which you failed to address because it's true.
ReplyDeleteThat Charles Murray is a racist isn't a diversion. It's central to the conversation. You want to divert the conversation from this fact because it's true. And it explains the motivations behind the policy changes he recommends :P
ReplyDeleteYou don't need an IQ test to implement a racist's policies, you simply need to know the melanin content of their epidermis.
ReplyDeleteBecause (generally speaking) Blacks aren't as smart as Whites (according to you). So, yes (according to you) that would be a fairly accurate test (dark skin = lower IQ). Though, as per a prior conversation, you believe there are plenty of stupid Whites as well. A better indication of low IQ would probably be (according to you) the economic status of the parents as well as skin color. AKA poor White kids are likely to have low IQs and poor Black kids are likely to have similarly low (or even lower) IQs.
ReplyDeleteSkin colour tells you absolutely nothing about an individual's IQ. It merely gives you the "average" for that skin colour. And I know and work with lots of black men who are MUCH smarter than me.
ReplyDeleteWhat about skin color? As for skin "colour" telling you absolutely nothing. The average is absolutely nothing? Or is it something? Also, there are people smarter than you? Who knew?
ReplyDeleteYou aren't literate, are you. It tells you nothing about an individual's IQ. The group IQ for whites, 100, tells you nothing about my IQ. A black group IQ of 85 tells you nothing about an individual black man's IQ, that could be 160 or 50. That's why MLK said that you should judge a man by the content of his character and not the colour of his skin.
ReplyDeleteNo, I'm not literate. I have a helper who reads your blog posts to me, then types in my orally dictated reply. I do look at the pictures and watch the videos though :)
ReplyDeleteGood, watch this and then scream how racist Charles Murray is with a straight face...
ReplyDeleteBecause he's talking to a Black guy?
ReplyDelete"I'm not really worried about the White Supremacists and the White Nationalists. I'm worried about all the working class and middle class Whites ... who can't turn onto the teevee without hearing another reference to the fact that they are bad people. That they have White privilege, that they are the cause of Black's problems ... an awful lot of people are angered by this...".
Racists like Charles Murray (and you) love it when they find smart Black people who buy into their BS. If he's so worried, why is he helping sell the BS narrative that White rage is justified (or understandable) because Whites are under attack?
Is that why the Left hates smart black people?
ReplyDeleteNo, it's why the Right hates them. Most Black intellectuals (who have a platform and advocate for one political party over the other) support the Democratic Party.
ReplyDeleteDo they? Or have they merely been proclaimed "intellectuals" by the white power elites out of a lack of critical thought?
ReplyDeleteEvil comes from a failure to think. It defies thought for as soon as thought tries to engage itself with evil and examine the premises and principles from which it originates, it is frustrated because it finds nothing there. That is the banality of evil.
- Hannah Arendt, "Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil"
It isn't evil to acknowledge a problem and work to fix it. Crafting lies to sell your narrative might be critical to preserving White Supremacy (for as long as you are able) but the rest of us consider what you're doing to be the true evil. If Charles Murray were honestly concerned (as he states in the video) he'd work to dispel these lies instead of promulgating them.
ReplyDeleteBlack average IQ matches white averages? White average AQs match black averages? Who knew?
ReplyDelete...certainly NOT Charles Murray.
ReplyDeleteThere's still no good reason to believe black-white IQ differences are due to genes. (excerpt) ...there is a gap between black IQ scores and white IQ scores [and] IQ is at least partly heritable (as is almost every human trait) [but the authors of the linked to article who are are academic psychologists who have studied human intelligence] reject the conclusion that Murray and Harris say is virtually inescapable -- that it follows that the black-white difference in IQ must be partly genetic.
ReplyDelete... The central issue at stake is whether the black-white IQ gap is partially genetically determined. We believe there is currently no strong evidence to support this conclusion, whereas Murray presents it as a near certainty ... there is, in fact, good reason to believe that improving children's environments will improve their cognitive skills [and the solution is public policy that raises children out of poverty].
Ignoring all the twins studies proving genetic linkages isn't very scientific.... jes sayin'.
ReplyDeleteThat explains why Black people are so dumb? They're all twins? Clearly that is why they all look alike too.
ReplyDeleteTwins are just dumber because they're discriminated against by undiscerning mothers...
ReplyDeleteo.824 = upper bound for IQ heretability.
ReplyDeleteHas science identified the dumb Black gene?
ReplyDeleteYour science lesson of the day.
ReplyDeleteYour link: Other studies have examined variations across the entire genomes of many people (an approach called genome-wide association studies or GWAS) to determine whether any specific areas of the genome are associated with IQ. These studies have not conclusively identified any genes that have major roles in differences in intelligence. It is likely that a large number of genes are involved, each of which makes only a small contribution to a person's intelligence.
ReplyDeleteIntelligence is also strongly influenced by the environment. Factors related to a child's home environment and parenting, education and availability of learning resources, and nutrition, among others, all contribute to intelligence. [end excerpt]
Charles Murray: "...if there is one lesson that we have learned from the last 70 years of social policy, it is that changing environments in ways that produce measurable results is really, really hard and we actually don't know how to do it, no matter how much money we spend. ... Does that mean that if only you can jack up artificially the environment you're going to make much difference in the child's IQ? And the answer to that is: Not long term".
i.e. government programs designed to lift children out of poverty are a waste of money and shouldn't be pursued. Murray is wrong. It isn't race but childhood poverty that affects IQ and fighting childhood poverty is something that we be using social policy to combat.
Except that Murray has shown that when taking socio-economic status into account, the racial IQ gap persists. So much for the socio-economic explanation. Rich white kids still perform 1 SD over rich black kids.
ReplyDeleteThe reason is that testing is racially biased. We need to BOTH lift children out of poverty and reform testing to remove racial bias. The racist Murray wants to do nothing because (he says) Black people are genetically less intelligent (on average) and there is nothing we can do about that "fact". This is false.
ReplyDeletelol! IQ tests have been scrubbed for racial bias for over 50 years. No measurable reduction in the IQ gap was achieved.
ReplyDeleteYou one of the few people I know still awaiting boxing "great White Hope".
ReplyDeleteHe ain't comin'.
No. But I don't expect you'll ever let go of this lie, given that it justifies your White Supremacist beliefs. Also, I am not a fan of boxing.
ReplyDeleteYou're the one submerged in a fantasy world filled with systemically racist oppressors and oppressed, not me. :)
ReplyDeleteYou're the one submerged in a fantasy world where there are no systemically racist oppressors and oppressed, not me. :)
ReplyDeleteWouldn't you LOVE to live in my world! lol!
ReplyDeleteSounds like we want the same things, only you're too stupid to realize that the race is over and that we already won. As they say in engineering, "Better is the enemy of good enough".
ReplyDelete...but if you must persist in beating a dead horse, do it where the rest of us don't get splattered from your needless whipping.
ReplyDeleteBigly LOL! You're too stupid to realize that the race is over and that WE already won. The American People rejected your White Supremacist leader. fyi, I would not love to suffer from the same delusions as you do or be unable to stop beating the dead horse you can't stop whipping.
ReplyDeleteYour delusional race fetish is your cross to bear, not mine.
ReplyDelete...but hey, repress the truth of Black averaae IQ's all you want in your own head. Don't try and convince the non-fetishists.
ReplyDelete