Slavoj Žižek and Alenka Zupančič, "Debt Inc.: Guilt, Credit, and the Algorithmic Future" (an excerpt)
Debt, Guilt, and Their Ambiguity
As Freud shows, for example, in his analysis of obsessional neurosis (the case study of the “Ratman”), debt plays a key role in this structure: obsessional subjects experience themselves as always indebted to the Other—be it the father, the Law, God, or the analyst. They are trapped in a paradox: on the one hand, they want to pay their debt, to be free; on the other, they endlessly postpone payment, because if the debt were ever settled, the Other’s desire would be extinguished—and that is unbearable. The obsessional solution, therefore, is to keep the debt alive. This gives them a sense of control over the Other’s desire (“I still owe, so the Other still wants (something from me)”), albeit at a very high cost, which can almost completely paralyze life, as we vividly see in the case of the “Rat Man.” Freud extends the fundamental logic of this compulsive structure to the functioning of religion in general, understanding the latter as a kind of “universal obsessive neurosis”: religion is not simply a set of beliefs and intimate faith; it operates as a system of practices and rituals aimed at managing anxiety and guilt in relation to the Other. Since, for Freud, there is at the same time no such thing as a completely non-pathological psychological structure, obsessive neurosis can be understood as one of the possible structures of “normality.”
In a slightly different register—one in which debt also resonates with guilt (as it does directly in the German language, where Schuld means both debt and guilt, though this connection is culturally more universal)—it is interesting to observe how this plays out in classical tragedy, and later in modern tragedy. As Hegel notes in his Lectures on Aesthetics, the force of the great tragic characters of antiquity lies in the fact that they have no choice: they are what they will and accomplish from their birth onward, and they are this with all their being. For this reason, Hegel continues, they do not in any way claim to be innocent of their acts. On the contrary, the greatest offence one can commit against a great tragic hero is to regard him or her as innocent; for great tragic characters, it is an honor to be guilty.[1]
To be guilty—to carry one’s particular symbolic debt—is to be, in the emphatic sense of the term. In this configuration, guilt pertains to being in a double sense: not only are we already guilty by virtue of existing (like in the tragedy of Oedipus), but guilt/debt also serves as the proof—the manifestation—of our being. Roughly speaking, we can see this logic at work later as well, in most of the classical tragedies.
In this respect, one of the most significant shifts that takes place with modernity is the idea that this symbolic debt, which once equaled (and justified) our being, can be taken away from us. In his reading of modern tragedy, as exemplified by Paul Claudel, Jacques Lacan points out that this is precisely what befalls his tragic heroines—particularly Sygne de Coûfontaine from the Coûfontaine trilogy.“We are no longer guilty just in virtue of symbolic debt. … It is the debt itself in which we have our place that can be taken away from us, and it is here that we can feel completely alienated from ourselves. The ancient Ate doubtless made us guilty of this debt, but to renounce it as we can now means that we are left with an even greater misfortune: destiny no longer applies.”[2]This possibility that arises with modernity is a possibility of a more radical alienation, which can lead to something like the sacrifice of the sacrifice itself: we can be asked or expected to sacrifice everything we have for a cause, but the next level, so to speak, is when we are then asked to sacrifice/betray this cause itself, the very thing for which we were willing to sacrifice everything. In this case, we don’t just lose everything we have; at the horizon looms the loss of everything we are.
In all these examples, debt functions as our attachment to the Other, who also bestows upon us our being. Yet we can also look at this from the other side: although the relation is not simply symmetrical, the Other too seems to depend on our debt—or guilt—for its own existence and prosperity. This, for instance, is something Nietzsche repeatedly exposed in his writings, taking Christianity as the model par excellence of this dynamic
Christianity, and particularly its Catholic strain, devised a complex system for forgiving and atoning for our sins, while simultaneously maintaining our debt to the Father and the Son who made such forgiveness possible. A sin that is forgiven, in this logic, amplifies rather than abolishes our debt.
This is the reason what Nietzsche insisted on the importance of the distinction between forgiving and forgetting: forgiving is a way of sustaining a bond—and with it, a debt. Forgiveness has a perverse way of entangling us even further in indebtedness. To forgive always somehow implies “paying” for the other, and thus turning the very act of injury and its forgiveness into a new kind of “engagement ring.” God forgives our sins by paying for them—by paying for them with his own flesh.
This, for Nietzsche, constitutes the fundamental perversity of Christianity: while forgiving, it simultaneously waves before us the cross—the instrument of torture, the reminder of the one who suffered and died so that we might be forgiven, the memory of the one who paid for us. Christianity forgives, but it does not forget.
One could say that, with the eyes of the sinner fixed on the cross, forgiveness creates a new debt in the very act of forgiving. It forgives what was done, but it does not forgive the act of forgiving itself. On the contrary, the latter establishes a new bond and a new debt. It is now infinite mercy—understood as the capacity for forgiveness—that sustains the infinite debt, the debt as infinite. The debt is no longer brought about by our actions; it is produced by the act of forgiving those actions. We are indebted for forgiveness.[3] This is the reason why Nietzsche counters the concept of forgiving with the concept of forgetting (“a good example of this in modern times is Mirabeau, who had no memory for insults and vile actions done to him and was unable to forgive simply because he – forgot”).
Christianity thus invented a singular way of maintaining and amplifying our debt—through the Savior paying for it, and through the Church forgiving our sins in His name. At the same time, for doctrinal reasons, the Catholic religion long struggled with—and resisted—the idea that today appears as an entirely natural precondition of debt, or its internal moment: namely, interest. More precisely, it resisted the monetary expression of the increase of debt, which it nevertheless very much practiced on the symbolic level.
Credit means that when we receive or borrow something—especially when we borrow money—our debt grows with time, and we must return more than we were lent. We pay for the time during which the Other holds us “in credit,” and we pay, so to speak, for the very access to debt. The notion that money could generate (more) money—that value could emerge from nothing but time—stood in deep conflict with theological orthodoxy. For this reason, in the Middle Ages only non-Christians (Jewish, and later Lombard or Florentine bankers) were permitted to lend at interest, often acting as intermediaries. Of course, this also meant that Christians could use them to lend money at interest without themselves being held accountable—thus giving rise to the classical antisemitic topos of the usurious “Jew.”

The fact is that these political zealots risk injury, and even death protecting law breakers, while having no compassion for, or energy to mourn the mounting numbers of their law abiding victims. Those who are injured or killed are worshiped as Martyrs, just as those zealots in The Middle East are worshiped for blowing themselves up for their cause. Look no further than the images of Pretti and Good depicted in robes and angel wings. This gives us insight into the depravity into which the radical cultists have descended.
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Minus: But does he also believe that white Americans like himself have no historical "debt" to black people for their former enslavement?
ReplyDeleteYes.
Minus: Does he feel no "obligation" to make restitution (or pay reparations) for their social suffering in the form of social justice? If he does...
I don't.
I believe in societal obligations. I have no personal obligation, as does no other White person. Not unless they are actively supporting discrimination. And these people (people like you) actively reject any responsibilities for their bad behavior. Why it is essential for society to take responsibility and try to alleviate these wrongs. Both past injustices that carry forward to today and current injustices.
But I don't expect you to understand. Or care that you don't. You never will. You'll just continue using your BS terms. "Guilt pride", "race essentialism", "neo racism", "neo sexism", etc. It's how you rationalize your White Supremacist beliefs, which you would be completely lost without.
The gay Klansman Dervish Sanders has burped again.
Delete"The gay Klansman Dervish Sanders" is imaginary, Mystere.
DeleteMinus: Dervy's "guilt/ schuld" is simply manifesting itself to his own mind as a "debt", a debt that is still owed and which must be repaid (with interest). And this is an obligation that he is proud to acknowledge.
ReplyDeleteI'm not proud to acknowledge that I have any such obligation. I completely reject the idea that I owe any such debt.
Minus: It's what obsessively compels him to behave in the manner of a Woke Social Justice Warrior zealot, and constantly virtue signal the fact that unlike other whites who refuse to acknowledge their social debt, and that he is a loyal ally in Black's quest for restitution.
It isn't. I have no such compulsion. I only believe in acting like a decent person. I am glad I'm not a Turd like you. As for "restitution", I believe in equality and helping people that need help. I don't think any bill that pays "reparations" will ever become law. I'm not an advocate for reparations. You have only convinced yourself of these things due to being a White Supremacist. In your mind I must believe in all the BS motiviations you MADE UP to explain why I'm not a White Supremacist like you.
So you now agree that Social Justice is bunk? So say it, don't weasel around with calling them societal obligations. Society owes the descendent of former slaves zip, zippo, nada! Affirmative Action is simply Neo-Racism, pure and simple.
Delete...and if you actually believed that you'd recognize that I'm advocating for MLK-Jr style "content of their character" race non-essentialism, not the "white supremacy". I am MLK, Jr.'s legacy, NOT YOU!
DeleteActa non Verba!
Minus: ...and if you actually believed that you'd recognize that I'm advocating for MLK-Jr style "content of their character" race non-essentialism, not the "white supremacy". I am MLK, Jr.'s legacy, NOT YOU!
DeleteYou aren't. You are a White Supremacist. You keep proving it on this blog with your posts and comments over and over. I reject White Supremacy and your belief that it is actually "race non essentialism". Because my brain isn't broken in the manner yours is that I would believe such BS.
Unless what you wrote was intended as a joke and you were trying to be funny. Because your claim definitely is a joke. Though NOT a funny one.
I do NOT agree that social justice is bunk. I believe very strongly in social justice. Because I'm not a White Supremacist.
btw, your brain is VERY badly broken if you think calling all Somali people "low IQ" and "dirty" (in agreement with the White Supremacist predisent) makes you a "race non essentialist"🙄🙄🙄
Minus: Acta non Verba!
DeleteExactly. The Turd-2 acta proves it is a fascist White Supremacist regime. And, aside from the Iran bombing, you still agree with ALL of what they are doing. Specifically all the White Supremacist stuff.
FYI, when you claim "ICE doesn't target lawful ANYTHING", that was false and widely reported to be false. So, your denials are obviously lies. Same as your "race non essentialism" claims.
Dervish Sanders plays with monkey turds and eats them.
DeleteI do NOT agree that social justice is bunk. I believe very strongly in social justice. Because I'm not a White Supremacist.
DeleteNo, you're a Neo-Racist favouring legal racial discrimination in the forms of affirmative action and DEI against white (and East Asian) people.
Your entire identity is based upon belief in fake hate crimes by white supremacists.
DeleteIn all these examples, debt functions as our attachment to the Other, who also bestows upon us our being. Yet we can also look at this from the other side: although the relation is not simply symmetrical, the Other too seems to depend on our debt—or guilt—for its own existence and prosperity (aka- DEI and AA Patronage Perks). This, for instance, is something Nietzsche repeatedly exposed in his writings, taking Christianity as the model par excellence of this dynamic.... no, the model par excellance today is "wokeism".
Minus: No, you're a Neo-Racist favouring legal racial discrimination... Your entire identity is based upon...
DeleteThat's fVcking idiotic. Not even 0.00001 percent of my identity is based on your bullplop. YOU favor legal racial discrimination. I'm strongly opposed to racial discrimination.
If hate crimes are "fake", why is the government website that keeps track of the statics still existing and viewable under Turd-2?
But I really don't think about it a lot. My "entire identity" certainly isn't based on the hate crimes being committed by those who share your ideology. I think it's terrible. But I have no idea that equates to my "entire identity".
I'm not sure who is crazier... you or Mystere.
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