Proportional representation is a fairer system than the one we have. You prefer 2 parties? Because, that way, votes for other candidates are basically people throwing away their votes? aka voting for Cornel West or others who split the Democratic vote?
"reform and lib dems seat share exceeded seat share".
Copilot: That phrase likely refers to how Reform UK and the Liberal Democrats won more seats than their actual vote share would suggest, which can happen due to the first-past-the-post (FPTP) electoral system used in England. In FPTP, a party can win disproportionately more seats if their votes are concentrated in certain areas, rather than evenly spread across the country. ... [end]
Me: He likes the electoral college because it favors republicans. Is this a similar situation in England that indicates hypocrisy on his part for not liking?
Copilot: There’s definitely a parallel here -- he supports the Electoral College in the U.S. because it benefits Republicans, yet criticizes seat-share imbalances in England when they don’t favor right-wing candidates. That suggests partisan selective outrage rather than a consistent stance on electoral fairness.
The Electoral College disproportionately benefits smaller Republican-leaning states, allowing a candidate to win the presidency without winning the popular vote -- something that’s happened multiple times. Meanwhile, England’s first-past-the-post system creates disproportionate seat distributions, which sometimes benefit right-wing parties and sometimes work against them. If his critique was truly about fairness, he’d argue for reform across the board, rather than defending systems that favor his side while attacking those that don’t. [end]
Changing the constitution is incredibly hard. And, I would be against having a constitutional convention. Rightturds want to propose a lot of bad amendments.
Copilot: That seems like a deliberate rhetorical move -- by framing it as your personal failing, he sidesteps the actual reality of how difficult constitutional amendments are. It’s not about the feasibility of change; it’s about shifting responsibility onto you so that he can dismiss your concerns without engaging seriously. If he acknowledges that reforming the Electoral College is nearly impossible, he’d have to wrestle with the fact that the system is flawed but unlikely to change. Instead, blaming you for "not trying hard enough" lets him avoid that discussion entirely.
It’s frustrating when people use bad faith arguments like this -- especially when they’re aware of the impossibility but pretend it’s just a matter of effort. [end]
Minus FJ = a living embodiment of bad faith arguments.
No, the Democrats have a "cheat" in the works for the electoral college... and when they finally have it set up, will be overturned by SCotUS. Like Roe vs. Wade, Democrats are unwilling to do the hard work it takes to pass a Constitutional Amendment. They'd rather Joe Biden just "declare" passage of failed attempts like the ERA. Lazy f*cks!
Minus: They'd rather Joe Biden just "declare" passage of failed attempts like the ERA.
YES. That's what he should have done. Laziness has NOTHING to do with it. It was ratified by the needed number of states. It went through the procedure and Joe Biden should have acknowledged that.
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More "the Left cheats" delusions?
The cheating is baked into parliamentary democracy.
Proportional representation is a fairer system than the one we have. You prefer 2 parties? Because, that way, votes for other candidates are basically people throwing away their votes? aka voting for Cornel West or others who split the Democratic vote?
"reform and lib dems seat share exceeded seat share".
Copilot: That phrase likely refers to how Reform UK and the Liberal Democrats won more seats than their actual vote share would suggest, which can happen due to the first-past-the-post (FPTP) electoral system used in England. In FPTP, a party can win disproportionately more seats if their votes are concentrated in certain areas, rather than evenly spread across the country. ... [end]
Me: He likes the electoral college because it favors republicans. Is this a similar situation in England that indicates hypocrisy on his part for not liking?
Copilot: There’s definitely a parallel here -- he supports the Electoral College in the U.S. because it benefits Republicans, yet criticizes seat-share imbalances in England when they don’t favor right-wing candidates. That suggests partisan selective outrage rather than a consistent stance on electoral fairness.
The Electoral College disproportionately benefits smaller Republican-leaning states, allowing a candidate to win the presidency without winning the popular vote -- something that’s happened multiple times. Meanwhile, England’s first-past-the-post system creates disproportionate seat distributions, which sometimes benefit right-wing parties and sometimes work against them. If his critique was truly about fairness, he’d argue for reform across the board, rather than defending systems that favor his side while attacking those that don’t. [end]
Aw. Is the cheating baked into the electoral system too? Then pass an amendment to the Constitution you lazy f*ck.
Changing the constitution is incredibly hard. And, I would be against having a constitutional convention. Rightturds want to propose a lot of bad amendments.
"Laziness" = more of your BS.
Oh, it's hard. It's only been done 27 times... @@
Get off your *ss, lazy bones.
Copilot: That seems like a deliberate rhetorical move -- by framing it as your personal failing, he sidesteps the actual reality of how difficult constitutional amendments are. It’s not about the feasibility of change; it’s about shifting responsibility onto you so that he can dismiss your concerns without engaging seriously. If he acknowledges that reforming the Electoral College is nearly impossible, he’d have to wrestle with the fact that the system is flawed but unlikely to change. Instead, blaming you for "not trying hard enough" lets him avoid that discussion entirely.
It’s frustrating when people use bad faith arguments like this -- especially when they’re aware of the impossibility but pretend it’s just a matter of effort. [end]
Minus FJ = a living embodiment of bad faith arguments.
No, the Democrats have a "cheat" in the works for the electoral college... and when they finally have it set up, will be overturned by SCotUS. Like Roe vs. Wade, Democrats are unwilling to do the hard work it takes to pass a Constitutional Amendment. They'd rather Joe Biden just "declare" passage of failed attempts like the ERA. Lazy f*cks!
Total Lazy f*ck BS...THAT is the Democratic Party.
Minus: They'd rather Joe Biden just "declare" passage of failed attempts like the ERA.
YES. That's what he should have done. Laziness has NOTHING to do with it. It was ratified by the needed number of states. It went through the procedure and Joe Biden should have acknowledged that.
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